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Who is the Am driver in my team then? Is it spooky or is he solo? Need to know so I can find a new am driver otherwise.
 
From now on if anyone wants to reply to any statement I may/may not post on here, it's PM only. Thanks.
 
Zakspeed_TV
What can i say i love odd numbers :) This may not be the norm in real life but this is not real life!

I have learnt lots of things in tuning over the years, i was career #1 on SHIFT2 and that took a huge amount of tuning.

I have been top 5 in a list of games i have been on, no tricks involved. People who know me from my old account know im a true racer, as is @kie25 who i have big respect for.

But i did expected more from you oz, oh and racing chase cam with a wheel really isn't the norm!
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@kie25
First of all I never said you or kie couldn't tune or drive as it's clear you can both drive and tune. Let me try to explain what I'm talking about, it's not necessarily a bug and it's definitely not cheating.

All of my tuning knowledge has come from real life or other people who have real life experience. So when I make a tune I'm basing my adjustments off real life and what I know those adjustments do in real life. Now pCars obviously isn't real life, but it is trying to simulate real life. That is why I take the real life approach. If someone has a tuning background from games/sims then they may go about tuning in a way that revolves around trends that have been in past games or doing whatever makes the car faster and not necessarily what a real life logical approach would be. There's nothing wrong with tuning like that.

For example you may run full soft springs and full stiff slow rebound. I personally would never try that because it doesn't make sense to do that for me. You might try it because it makes you .5 faster per lap even if it logically it doesn't make sense. There's nothing wrong with that again, that's just not how I think about tuning. Those are the little "tricks" I'm talking about. It was never a personal thing, it's just hard to justify why I'm saying so it got blown way out of proportion.
 
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@kie25
First of all I never said you or kie couldn't tune or drive as it's clear you can both drive and tune. Let me try to explain what I'm talking about, it's not necessarily a bug and it's definitely not cheating.

All of my tuning knowledge has come from real life or other people who have real life experience. So when I make a tune I'm basing my adjustments off real life and what I know those adjustments do in real life. Now pCars obviously isn't real life, but it is trying to simulate real life. That is why I take the real life approach. If someone has a tuning background from games/sims then they may go about tuning in a way that revolves around trends that have been in past games or doing whatever makes the car faster and not necessarily what a real life logical approach would be. There's nothing wrong with tuning like that.

For example you may run full soft springs and full stiff slow rebound. I personally would never try that because it doesn't make sense to do that for me. You might try it because it makes you .5 faster per lap even if it logically it doesn't make sense. There's nothing wrong with that again, that's just not how I think about tuning. Those are the little "tricks" I'm talking about. It was never a personal thing, it's just hard to justify why I'm saying so it got blown way out of proportion.
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I base my setup from the information in the setup screen, and I'm sure the information is correct for real life, and it works fine for me, I even found a website that went into detail about setups for race cars, everything I tried did what it said on the website so I just think you need to try harder with your setups.
 
kie25
I base my setup from the information in the setup screen, and I'm sure the information is correct for real life, and it works fine for me, I even found a website that went into detail about setups for race cars, everything I tried did what it said on the website so I just think you need to try harder with your setups.
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So, are you running more than 1.5 camber on gt3 cars?
 
kie25
I base my setup from the information in the setup screen, and I'm sure the information is correct for real life, and it works fine for me, I even found a website that went into detail about setups for race cars, everything I tried did what it said on the website so I just think you need to try harder with your setups.
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Where can i find this if i may ask? :)
 
Kkj10
Didn't say it was exactly like Laguna. I'm sure you seen the PSN chat. If it can net someone like me a tenth or two I can see pro tier drivers gaining the same if not more. Of course because I'm not in the pro tier the series staff isn't paying much attention to what I'm saying (yet).
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If you think it's an issue offer to take some pro drivers round there to see what they make of it. Could be that they don't think it's faster or that they don't consider it corner cutting.

Until we know exactly what we're dealing with there's not much point speculating about it.
 
Kkj10
Didn't say it was exactly like Laguna. I'm sure you seen the PSN chat. If it can net someone like me a tenth or two I can see pro tier drivers gaining the same if not more. Of course because I'm not in the pro tier the series staff isn't paying much attention to what I'm saying (yet).
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My guess would be that your talking about turn 6 or 7 but cutting them will loose you time you need to be having the car pointing in the correct direction at earliest opportunity to gain better traction to get on the power, if your not maxing out the corner in the tarmac you may gain time but that because your not taking the bend correctly. I can get 1.22s keeping car on the track without any cuts at all, even with a setup that is very weak at the moment.
 
MrMattAdz
If you think it's an issue offer to take some pro drivers round there to see what they make of it. Could be that they don't think it's faster or that they don't consider it corner cutting.

Until we know exactly what we're dealing with there's not much point speculating about it.
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You see. That's just the kind of sensible thought out response that I would expect from someone running a series. Well done for restoring some faith in this series for me pots. Others take note!

kie25
My guess would be that your talking about turn 6 or 7 but cutting them will loose you time you need to be having the car pointing in the correct direction at earliest opportunity to gain better traction to get on the power, if your not maxing out the corner in the tarmac you may gain time but that because your not taking the bend correctly. I can get 1.22s keeping car on the track without any cuts at all, even with a setup that is very weak at the moment.
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The turn before the T2 line (6?). I feel like I'm taking that turn correctly. Nice late apex like the next corner can really let you carry some good speed. Of course I'm happy to take you round like was suggested above and you can prove me wrong?
 
There is no advantage to be gained on that corner it only lets you take slightest bit off I just tried and it lost me half a second as you can't get in the power at same time, plus that kerb is there. Invite me by all means now and I'll
Watch you from the pits the way you take it and I'll judge it.
 
Kkj10
You see. That's just the kind of sensible thought out response that I would expect from someone running a series. Well done for restoring some faith in this series for me pots. Others take note!



The turn before the T2 line (6?). I feel like I'm taking that turn correctly. Nice late apex like the next corner can really let you carry some good speed. Of course I'm happy to take you round like was suggested above and you can prove me wrong?
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He gave you an Answer on your Question. Lets keep this stuff to an low now. For now on if you have a Question. Pm all of the Staff in a message and we'll discuss your matter. You can find the Staff on the 1st Page. Keep the Drama at a stand still. Just causes too much Drama.
 
He gave you an Answer on your Question. Lets keep this stuff to an low now. For now on if you have a Question. Pm all of the Staff in a message and we'll discuss your matter. You can find the Staff on the 1st Page. Keep the Drama at a stand still. Just causes too much Drama.


@Kkj10
 
Yes he did @STALLIONO. A bloody good one at that. You should take note instead of telling people to move on. That's one of the reasons why this sort of stuff keeps coming round to bite this series in the backside.

@kie25, I'll be on later. If I see your still on I'll send you an invite. I won't be here for the race anyway so it's all for others benefit.
 
Kkj10
Yes he did @STALLIONO. A bloody good one at that. You should take note instead of telling people to move on. That's one of the reasons why this sort of stuff keeps coming round to bite this series in the backside.

@kie25, I'll be on later. If I see your still on I'll send you an invite. I won't be here for the race anyway so it's all for others benefit.
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Well Drama was mentioned. That's the stuff i want gone. Keep your comments to yourself. Your got an answer that's good now move on. No need for disrespectfull comments.
 
STALLIONO
Well Drama was mentioned. That's the stuff i want gone. Keep your comments to yourself. Your got an answer that's good now move on. No need for disrespectfull comments.
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I suggested that he took a pro driver round the track just to make sure we aren't missing anything, kie is happy to spectate and check it out, there's no drama here.
 
MrMattAdz
I suggested that he took a pro driver round the track just to make sure we aren't missing anything, kie is happy to spectate and check it out, there's no drama here.
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Sounds good. Nothing negative @Kkj10 . Just like i said earlier. Anyone has a Question. Add every Staff member in to a PM
 
I haven't said anything negative. My comment to you was ment to be constructive criticism. I apologise if it came across disrespectful.
 
Here is my merc gt3 lap from 1st week game was out with basically no setup changes think all I had changed was downforce and even that I had done wrong I've found out now. But this kinda shows best line for turn 6 although it wasn't perfect as I'm doing it faster in z4 probably as my setup is better and also car is better.



May help few people if there struggling with lines anyway.
 
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