More Offroad Sports in GT6?

[LeadFootLiam]

We already have WRC. But what about Short Course Truck racing, Dakar, Baja 500 & 1000, and more?


What do you think?

I think it would great to implement that in the next series.

 

[another_jakhole]

If possible, it'll be for GT7 or further iterations. Baja? I don't see how that'll be implemented. I don't know much about it, but isn't the event more than just a long sprint race across the desert? Really, you'll need to explain more than you think if you're going to be bringing up these ideas (which I find interesting regardless of what others might say - "It doesn't belong in the GT series").

FYI, it's "in the next iteration", not "in the next series". GT6 is an iteration; GT is a series.

 

[DurWinning]

They should on one condition. The rally/offroad handiling must be the same from Gran Turismo 3 no acceptions

 

[avens]

Put real life tracks on GT6 and stages then WRC is "finished".

Right now it hasn't even started.

 

[Samus]

We do not have WRC. We have a few WRC cars and some 'tracks' that are supposed to pass as rally stages.

 

[ShiftingGears]

I would say definitely not. They could do much, much more with the rally stages and actually maximise what the rally cars they have are supposed to be used for. I thought the use of stages was good in GT5 but the execution could be greatly improved, such as using real-life, or otherwise decent permanent stages, or at least making the randomly generated stages more varied and interesting.

I think they should also focus on the rallying gameplay - in my opinion the rallies should have 11 rivals, they only show the ghost cars of the rival who set the fastest time in a given stage. Waiting 40 seconds at the start of a stage is just aggravating, and no rally releases cars at 10 second intervals anyway. This, coupled with stages a mile wide just so that the player isn't hopelessly stalled behind slow AI is neither realistic or particularly enjoyable. By showing the ghost cars of the fastest cars in a given stage, then there is the chance of seeing different rivals in different stages, rather than the same three. That is, if ghost cars are even needed. Colin McRae rally didn't need ghost cars to make rallies engaging.

So in my opinion, they shouldn't get ambitious with other offroad series without properly fixing the gameplay of the current rallying system. If they don't, it will feel very second-rate when GT6 is released.

 

[nascarfn]

We do need more offroad sports but first they need to fix WRC ex: 17 minute tracks point to point 20 minute dirt circuit more WRC cars like ford focus, saab, dodge dart, citroen, peugot etc...

 

[jacogt5]

I agree 100% with you.

 

[poumpoum]

Like you guys, I'd love to have new sports

But, for me, the biggest problem of Gran Turismo is the lack of consistency. Currently we have cars from WRC, Karting, Nascar, GT500... but there is nothing to do with them ! I prefer to have real/long/difficult(AI, damages) championships for the sports we already have than to have new ones without interests...

 

[R34EVO9]

I would say definitely not. They could do much, much more with the rally stages and actually maximise what the rally cars they have are supposed to be used for. I thought the use of stages was good in GT5 but the execution could be greatly improved, such as using real-life, or otherwise decent permanent stages, or at least making the randomly generated stages more varied and interesting.

I think they should also focus on the rallying gameplay - in my opinion the rallies should have 11 rivals, they only show the ghost cars of the rival who set the fastest time in a given stage. Waiting 40 seconds at the start of a stage is just aggravating, and no rally releases cars at 10 second intervals anyway. This, coupled with stages a mile wide just so that the player isn't hopelessly stalled behind slow AI is neither realistic or particularly enjoyable. By showing the ghost cars of the fastest cars in a given stage, then there is the chance of seeing different rivals in different stages, rather than the same three. That is, if ghost cars are even needed. Colin McRae rally didn't need ghost cars to make rallies engaging.

So in my opinion, they shouldn't get ambitious with other offroad series without properly fixing the gameplay of the current rallying system. If they don't, it will feel very second-rate when GT6 is released.

couldn't say it better myself the rallying in gt5 need some very big improvemts . We dont even have soft and hard compound dirt tires which is big deal in today's wrc

 

[Griffith500]

The improvements suggested for the rally modes should be simple enough, and it doesn't even have to be a WRC sim (there are supposed to be other games for that), just a competent rally mode.

One simple thing they could do is allow us to drive directly on the course creator terrains (there were two or three per theme in GT5), and set loose courses for baja-like fun, or tight technical stuff over tricky terrain (conditional on its actual existence) for trials. That latter is unlikely, but the baja stuff would be fun. They could even make the terrain itself procedurally generated, and add a path-finding mode - very Paris-Dakar-like.

Don't see what the fuss is, bring it on.

 

[LeftyWright69]

More dirt and less snow, they already have dirt tracks they haven't used from older versions of the GT series.

 

[ASH32]

More dirt and less snow, they already have dirt tracks they haven't used from older versions of the GT series.

No, more dirt and more snow. I like variety.

 

[TomBrady]

We already have WRC. But what about Short Course Truck racing, Dakar, Baja 500 & 1000, and more?


What do you think?

I think it would great to implement that in the next series.

I'd like to see more versions of off road stuff, but not to many. I think monster trucks would be cool too lol Has anyone else seen the cool variety of off road stuff that TOCA 3 had? Very interesting

also, GT5 already has Dakar trucks.

Most of all though, I'd just like to see rally events in A spec, not just special trials or whatever it was in GT5. In my opinion, that was stupid of them. The rally portion of GT5 was so under utilized, same with NASCAR and karting. I don't care that they lacked their own tracks, there still should have been more events for them.

 

[Qvale]

They should on one condition. The rally/offroad handiling must be the same from Gran Turismo 3 no acceptions

Wholeheartedly agree. GT3 handling on dirt was perfect. Not too touchy like GT4/5 but still held reasonable challenge. 👍

 

[TomBrady]

Wholeheartedly agree. GT3 handling on dirt was perfect. Not too touchy like GT4/5 but still held reasonable challenge. 👍

Yea the rally in GT4 and GT5 isn't great but I don't really remember it in GT3. Can't remember what it was like.

What i'd like is for it to be just like it is in WRC 3. WRC 3 is the Gran Turismo of rally racing games. It's not quite as realistic as the best PC sims, but it's the most realistic on console for sure and a ton of fun to play because of it.

If you like rally racing, I can't recommend WRC 3 enough. Plus, as of a month or 2 ago, it is finally on the North American PS Store, so go grab it up people!!!

Also, I should mention that there are infact plenty of people to race with online too. I've tried multiple times even at 4am EST, and there's still full race lobbies. Keep in mind that it's rally so the races are with ghosts only, but it's still fun as hell.

 

[MoLiEG]

They should on one condition. The rally/offroad handiling must be the same from Gran Turismo 3 no acceptions

This. 👍

Rally in GT3 was perfect.

 

[TheCracker]

Let them do rallying better first, then they can start thinking about expanding on other offroad sports. Rallycross and CORR/Lucas Oil truck racing would be the obvious direction for them to investigate. Both fairly up and coming on the world stage, both well suited to GT's usual circuit racing and low lap counts format.

 

[glassjaw]

If you like rally racing, I can't recommend WRC 3 enough. Plus, as of a month or 2 ago, it is finally on the North American PS Store, so go grab it up people!!!

Seconded. The WRC series has come a very, very long way, and people should definitely check out the latest installment. Honestly it isn't far away from DiRT 3 in terms of gameplay and quality.

 

[ALMSDriver1]

I fully agree on more and improved rally events in GT6 or GT7 also the handling and "feel" of the cars should be modeled after the GT3 rally stuff, I too think it was the best as far as the way the cars felt off-road. I would love to see the Pike's Peak event re-done and events like Baja or the Mint 400 type SCORE races would be a blast. We already have several pick-up trucks that could be made into off-road racers in-game so I wish the GT crew would consider something like this to add to our favorite simulator.💡

 

[SavageEvil]

I can't support the idea unless Kaz and company actually has open driving on rally stages and no invisible walls strewn about. Kaz's created courses are treacherous and require you to sign a waiver to drive on them, it would be great to incorporate off roading the likes of 4x4 Evolution in GT upgrading to full Baja type trucks or Dakar spec trucks and cars. Open ended course creator would definitely signal something like more off roading, I would love to take a Nissan Xterra, add a 6 in lift kit, upgrade the engine, add a snorkel, fit with rough terrain tires, lighten the load and take it out on some baja runs or near a coastal sandy beach run complete with sloshing through 2 feet of water and wet sand. Not sure the PS3 or GT6 current code would be able to deal with all that but anything is possible, this would definitely look awesome and test physics and tire physics and deformation greatly.