MOTOGP 18

[Jtheripper]

Still enjoying this game... Ride 3 bug just hasn't bitten yet. And I would really like to get a Moto2 Championship under my belt before I move on, tried twice in Moto3 and come up short both times. It was very "realistic" in terms it came down to a couple two or three riders battling for the title. First time, I missed the M3 cup by 2 points, second time I took more risk (and had the Ai set higher) and lost out by almost a full 100 points. Anyhoo, I have started Moto2 and have got pole and won every race, 10 races in, including winning at a couple tracks previously not won at.

And I know this game isn't perfect, but I really enjoy the racing that can be had in it. We've already covered things that need to be addressed in the next game - but I doubt they will be, and I'm sure I'll find something I will like about MotoGP 19, or I won't. . .

Here's a few shots of Assen and Sachsenring.

Looks really nice, in reality do they really bring their upper body and head so low that their elbow almost scratches the road and can catch a snack laying on the pavement with their mouths? Looks a bit off i dont know, i haven't watched much real racing since long.

 

[barryf1fan]

Depends on what part of the turn and the rider's riding style.

It also depends speed of the corner.

 

[Jtheripper]

Depends on what part of the turn and the rider's riding style.

It also depends speed of the corner.

Yeah also the angle of the shot. But that last pic is crazy still. How the hell the bike holds on hehe wow. Need momentum too using the centrifuge force, i can imagine leaning like that and slowing a little too much and the bike would just fall down.
Are those shots of motogp18 or 19?

 

[barryf1fan]

^^^ those are real-life. . .

 

[Jtheripper]

^^^ those are real-life. . .

oook. I'll go back to sleep i think haha ,oh boy. Nice graphics
Well i mean the pics i replied that are looking nice i meant really. If they are 18 or 19. Hehe don't tell me they are real too hehehe.

 

[barryf1fan]

oook. I'll go back to sleep i think haha ,oh boy. Nice graphics
Well i mean the pics i replied that are looking nice i meant really. If they are 18 or 19. Hehe don't tell me they are real too hehehe.

The earlier ones are MotoGP 18.

 

[Jtheripper]

The earlier ones are MotoGP 18.

Haha i see ok thanks phew. Well they still look really good especially the bikes at least.

 

[er185es]

Delete, sorry.

 

[Jtheripper]

So, hadn't played much of anything lately (other than a few games of SW: Battlefront here and there) but jumped back in and did some MotoGP 18. Had to turn the Ai down to 65% but run with Pro physics on, and generally start the race with EB and TCS off - sometimes end up going to 1-2 on TCS just because of tire wear. Usually competitive with this setup - I generally qualify 1-2 and can get a top 5/6 in the race. Have won maybe three races, but have several 3-4-5th's in there, as well as just some top 10's. I've even had a couple of DNF's (crashed so bad it damages the bike about halfway)... this is my second season of Moto3, btw. Have 5 races left in this 2nd season and am looking forward to moving up to Moto2, as I honestly think those are my favorite bikes - just too inconsistent on the GP bikes. Usually I will practice on a Moto2 bike for about 5-10 laps of the track I've got next in my season of Moto3, and it seems to help a ton. Why I generally qualify on Pole... but the odd one or two mistakes almost always cost me a podium (and I have gotten away from using the rewind feature, )

Anyhoo, here's a few lackluster pics:

Catalunya was dry FP and Qualifying, but my first wet race of the second season.

Bugatti Circuit (LeMans - don't know why they call it LeMans... I thought it was the Bugatti circuit at LeMans. )

Canet was my nemesis this entire race and kept cutting me off, and then when I would get past he would dive bomb me and force me out wide in the turn... by lap 10~12 I had had enough...

You poke the bear one too many times, you wind up getting scratched.

Can't remember who this was, but after the race I walked down to his garage and told him that he was doing it wrong.

Looks like fun. You really had enough of that guy huh hehe. Are those 250ccs?Looks good too to me.

Still playing this game - this is probably the longest a MotoGP game has kept my interest, bar MotoGP 4 on the PS2. . . Can't believe that no one is really playing this game, or at least it doesn't seem like there is. I know the FR isn't perfect and hopefully that will be addressed in the next installment (and boy, if they fix that this will be my go to racing game [next to F1 2018]) to optimize the Unreal engine. Time will tell.

I jumped back on and did some more career, as I had mostly been doing TT's and races on the "big" bikes. So, Moto3 is at Aragon - a track that I dislike slightly more than going to the dentist, and after FP1 I'm sitting in 6th and feeling pretty good about that. One of my teammates is in 4th and the other in 26th. Well, after making some serious changes to the setup (tried so many I can't even remember what I ended up with) I end up 10th in FP3. Huh?! That's what I was thinking anyway as the Ai are now almost a full second faster than they had been. Little deflated after FP3, to say the least. Heading to Qualifying my goal is a top 10 position, as in maybe 10th, right? Make some adjustments to the bike and ended qualifying in 2nd!!! Bastiannini on pole, and Martin is 0.15 behind me in 3rd.

Sandwiched between two fast guys on top team bikes at the start, they pretty much leave me at the green. On the start, I drop back to 8th. After one lap I'm sitting in 5th behind Bezzecchi and Canet, while Martin (who is around Bastiannini) and Bastiannini are trying to break away. Somehow, I get around both 3rd and 4th to find myself in 3rd - about a second behind the front two riders and about 0.8 ahead of the 4th and 5th. Run a couple of good laps and catch up to the leaders and while trying to set up a pass for 2nd I go wide in a turn and lose all my time over Bezzecchi and Canet. The next 3 laps we had a fantastic battle for the final podium position. Swapping those 3 positions multiple times and to finally finish 3rd, with Bastiannini doing enough to get Martin, who finish's in 2nd behind the Italian rider. I ended up on the podium, but just. Had the 4th fastest lap of the race and did just enough to grab the points!! What a fun race at a track that hates me almost as much as I hate a root canal.

This game continues to surprise me at how fun it is to have the Ai race you and battle with you. Anyway, thought I would share. Take care GTP'ers!

Just reading now older posts. You making me think i overlooked motogp18, especially that Milestone seem to start supporting their games better lately. It seems fun offline with a.i. looks nice too. Maybe I'll just get this when its on good sale 1st. Then wait for motogp19 for the same. There's no older historic bikes in 18 though right?
I'm having alot of fun with ride1 here. I'm a late to the party kind of guy i know hehe.

 

[John Wells]

Just reading now older posts. You making me think i overlooked motogp18. It seems fun offline with a.i. looks nice too. Maybe I'll just get this when its on good sale 1st. Then wait for motogp19 for the same. There's no older historic bikes in 18 though right?
I'm having alot of fun with ride1 here. I'm a late to the party kind of guy i know hehe.

I'm still playing MotoGP15, for historic 2 stroke bikes, these quite hard in real life to ride. In the game there just as challenging, if you bang the the throttle.

 

[barryf1fan]

Looks like fun. You really had enough of that guy huh hehe. Are those 250ccs?Looks good too to me.


Just reading now older posts. You making me think i overlooked motogp18, especially that Milestone seem to start supporting their games better lately. It seems fun offline with a.i. looks nice too. Maybe I'll just get this when its on good sale 1st. Then wait for motogp19 for the same. There's no older historic bikes in 18 though right?
I'm having alot of fun with ride1 here. I'm a late to the party kind of guy i know hehe.

Yep, Moto3, which is a 250cc class - used to be 125 class.

I have enjoyed "18". I enjoyed 17 more, with the Managerial career, but have played 18 more. MotoGP 17 plays well and looks good too, the graphics between the two are just different, but MotoGP 17 still looks really good. Also, I have a standard Xbox one and standard PS4 and MotoGP 18 looks better on the PS4. I know that on Xbox 1X and PS4 Pro it looks good on both. There are not any Historic bikes in 18, I think there was in 17 ( I know there is in MotoGP 15, another good game). And the Ai are ok, you have to get used to where they are good AND bad... overall, it's a good game if you like moto games, and especially a series moto game.

I've kinda settled running the game on 80-85% difficutly, with pro physics and random weather, etc... There are still people that play it online and they are really good. I'm sure they will move on to 19 when it's released.

 

[Jtheripper]

I'm still playing MotoGP15, for historic 2 stroke bikes, these quite hard in real life to ride. In the game there just as challenging, if you bang the the throttle.

I see yeah,I'm sure its a fun challenge that I'd enjoy trying out. Did those older bikes return in motogp17?
Are the newer bikes all 4stroke now?
If not maybe I'll even look into motogp15. I guess the age of the game shows in the sounds ,track surface detail and graphics now?

Yep, Moto3, which is a 250cc class - used to be 125 class.

I have enjoyed "18". I enjoyed 17 more, with the Managerial career, but have played 18 more. MotoGP 17 plays well and looks good too, the graphics between the two are just different, but MotoGP 17 still looks really good. Also, I have a standard Xbox one and standard PS4 and MotoGP 18 looks better on the PS4. I know that on Xbox 1X and PS4 Pro it looks good on both. There are not any Historic bikes in 18, I think there was in 17 ( I know there is in MotoGP 15, another good game). And the Ai are ok, you have to get used to where they are good AND bad... overall, it's a good game if you like moto games, and especially a series moto game.

I've kinda settled running the game on 80-85% difficutly, with pro physics and random weather, etc... There are still people that play it online and they are really good. I'm sure they will move on to 19 when it's released.

I'm on ps4 standard. Hard to choose between 18 and 17 and 15 even, except if 17 has historic bikes. As long as the rest of the game matches up with 18, for sounds especially. Do we know which historic bikes will be in motogp19 yet? From the motogp19 videos the sounds seem same to 18 almost.
Edit: i just noticed on sony store the Valentino Rossi game which replaced the 2016 numbered game that year. What you guys think of it? There's a compact version of it for only 13$ in Canada, I'm tempted, it be a good deal to get all the gp tracks. There is a legendary dlc too,but it's listed only in the full game section and not in the compact game section. Do you guys know if i can still add this dlc to the compact game? Its just 6$, it be a bargain even with the compact version all together. Also it runs at 60fps on standard ps4 i think.

 

[John Wells]

Edit: i just noticed on sony store the Valentino Rossi game which replaced the 2016 numbered game that year. What you guys think of it? There's a compact version of it for only 13$ in Canada, I'm tempted, it be a good deal to get all the gp tracks. There is a legendary dlc too,but it's listed only in the full game section and not in the compact game section. Do you guys know if i can still add this dlc to the compact game? Its just 6$, it be a bargain even with the compact version all together.

Are the newer bikes all 4stroke now?
If not maybe I'll even look into motogp15. I guess the age of the game shows in the sounds ,track surface detail and graphics now?

The sounds in Moto15, are quite low, after playing Ride 3, historic bikes need to be turned up in headphones. Historic bikes in 17 are 4 stokes, Casey Stoner etc, they will in 19.

I only got into MotoGp quite late, had been watching bike racing, World Superbikes, British Superbikes and TT. The first time they still had, 2 strokes, 4 strokes running together, so missed some really good riders, like Rainy, Schwantz and Doohan.

Most most race bikes are 4 strokes, still see 2 strokes, at classic meeting, but this was at last years TT.

 

[Jtheripper]

The sounds in Moto15, are quite low, after playing Ride 3, historic bikes need to be turned up in headphones. Historic bikes in 17 are 4 stokes, Casey Stoner etc, they will in 19.

I only got into MotoGp quite late, had been watching bike racing, World Superbikes, British Superbikes and TT. The first time they still had, 2 strokes, 4 strokes running together, so missed some really good riders, like Rainy, Schwantz and Doohan.

Most most race bikes are 4 strokes, still see 2 strokes, at classic meeting, but this was at last years TT.

Hehe yeah. I used to watch Rainey Doohan Shwantz back then. Also world and american superbikes with that Spies guy racer edging out the best riders of that time that i cant even remember names right now ouch. I thought they were amazing thrilling to watch, and the tracks too, like road america etc.
Some say the earlier games were more arcade before motogp17 or that rossi game.
That video whew looks wicked. Thanks John.

 

[jpine324]

Going to see the MotoAmerica series in a couple weeks at Road America. I race karts there too!! Well not the big track they stopped that since people were dying doing 150 in a go kart!! They have a purpose built kart track there for their club. Anyways never been to a moto race---really looking forward to seeing that in person instead of on TV. Moto racing is so exciting to watch compared to car racing---I love both but the overtaking on bikes is just incredible!!

Seems like there is a lot of interest in GP19'. We should try to get a group online to do some racing---if that happens I have a lot of catching up to do!

 

[Jtheripper]

Going to see the MotoAmerica series in a couple weeks at Road America. I race karts there too!! Well not the big track they stopped that since people were dying doing 150 in a go kart!! They have a purpose built kart track there for their club. Anyways never been to a moto race---really looking forward to seeing that in person instead of on TV. Moto racing is so exciting to watch compared to car racing---I love both but the overtaking on bikes is just incredible!!

Seems like there is a lot of interest in GP19'. We should try to get a group online to do some racing---if that happens I have a lot of catching up to do!

That could be fun, only thing is i wait always for a good discount on newer games. Im not fast. I just love the challenging feel.
You're lucky, here near Montreal not alot of bike racing to go see.
I agree its crazy the close action in superbikes motogp etc. Bikes and rally are so spectacular to me.
Do you know if the legendary bikes dlc can be added and played on the rossi compact game version?

 

[jpine324]

Whats up Ripper---I just looked at the playstation store. There is a DLC for legendary bikes. Not sure what system you on. But here is the link to the ps store https://store.playstation.com/en-us...e-game-ps4:leadproductinfo-buy-download:null:

 

[Jtheripper]

Whats up Ripper---I just looked at the playstation store. There is a DLC for legendary bikes. Not sure what system you on. But here is the link to the ps store https://store.playstation.com/en-us/product/UP1981-CUSA05234_00-MOTOGPVR46DLC080?smcid=pdc:us-en:web-pdc-games-valentino-rossi-the-game-ps4:leadproductinfo-buy-download:null:

Yeah i saw that. That's why im asking because the dlc only shows on the main game addons, not on the compact game page. I don't know, I'm just wondering and want to make sure if that dlc can be added to the compact game.
Nice to meet you jpine, ouch i cant imagine karting on the main track yeah, a little too fast for public karting at least.
Im on standard ps4. Im going to try the rossi compact game. That's my 1st motogp game in a long time. Its just 13cad.
Ill probably get ride3. Its half price for the weekend.

 

[jpine324]

Yeah i saw that. That's why im asking because the dlc only shows on the main game addons, not on the compact game page. I don't know, I'm just wondering and want to make sure if that dlc can be added to the compact game.
Nice to meet you jpine, ouch i cant imagine karting on the main track yeah, a little too fast for public karting at least.
Im on standard ps4. Im going to try the rossi compact game. That's my 1st motogp game in a long time. Its just 13cad.
Ill probably get ride3. Its half price for the weekend.

I would think i would work. But not sure on that one. I usually trade my older ones in to help bring down cost on new game. But I get it...games are crazy expensive...but I tell my wife...do you want me in the bar--or the basement--we know that answer

 

[barryf1fan]

@Jtheripper send me a friend request on PSN, my id is in my sig down below.

 

[Jtheripper]

I would think i would work. But not sure on that one. I usually trade my older ones in to help bring down cost on new game. But I get it...games are crazy expensive...but I tell my wife...do you want me in the bar--or the basement--we know that answer

Hehehe yeah i should use that line too, especially add that there are other women there too, if the wife is jealous type like mine.oups i never said that.

@Jtheripper send me a friend request on PSN, my id is in my sig down below.

Thanks Barry. I dont do much online though really,especially public whew that's a waste most times. But i can try sometimes, i always wanted try with people you know are nice guys and try play fair and well.

Edit: Aww i just noticed from a picture i saved that motogp18 was 75% off 2 weeks ago for psn members.i just had to renew my subscription though to psplus. I wish i had read all older posts here already back then on how they kept patching it. And how the tracks surfaces are more detailed with elevation changes from the scanning they do now, sound and ai improvements etc. I would have gotten it for sure. It was 16$cad, almost same as this old rossi game i just got now grr. The bad reviews put me off.

 

[MrCrynox]

i had read all older posts here already back then on how they kept patching it. The bad reviews put me off.

You can't on rely on general reviews for racing games due to the fact that they are for a niche set of ace people. Half the time the reviewer doesn't even like or understand racing or Motorsport. My advice is to only take notice of what people say on here

 

[Jtheripper]

You can't on rely on general reviews for racing games due to the fact that they are for a niche set of ace people. Half the time the reviewer doesn't even like or understand racing or Motorsport. My advice is to only take notice of what people say on here

Yeah thanks Crynox. I know better but i also know Milestone had alot of improving to do. I feel like an idiot grr. Well i just tried Rossi compact game now. At 1st i thought, oh my god what did i do, im getting to like it but i wish i got motogp18 for almost the same price grr 2 weeks ago. It is dated already. Also some aspects seem more arcady than ride1. You dont even feel the bike react to the rumble strip it seems and its more forgiving. Maybe that's partly due to being racing bikes and I'm not pushing it much for now. And it doesn't run at 60fps for sure on standard ps4. I hate making mistakes like this cause i wait long for good discounts and i just missed one on motogp18. The graphics also aren't so hot in Rossi lol. Live and learn never ends..

 

[barryf1fan]

I have all the games, and I honestly think that '15 or '17 are better games than VR the Game... that may just be me - I just didn't like all the shenanigans affiliated with the Rossi game. It's ok, and I can always find something I like about a game. Hang in there, but remember, it's always better to have the shiny new turd than the old dull one.

 

[Jtheripper]

I have all the games, and I honestly think that '15 or '17 are better games than VR the Game... that may just be me - I just didn't like all the shenanigans affiliated with the Rossi game. It's ok, and I can always find something I like about a game. Hang in there, but remember, it's always better to have the shiny new turd than the old dull one.

Heheh yeah. I also knew from the past that Milestone has never been good at supporting their games at all. And always move on fast to the next one. Seems just with recent games like motogp18 they are now, but i just learned of this.
I don't like the fluff either that why i got the compact game only. Not sure I'll last long with it though, as soon as 18 or 19 is on discount it's going in the garbage bin i would think. Also since I'll get ride 3 i think while its on sale. Even if i didn't, i really like ride1. For now seems better for sure. If it was just me i wouldn't so much try save each penny for this, but the wife and bills never end.
Edit: well it's a good challenge,and i'm crap at it. The a.i. in qualif leaves me standing. I'm on losail at night, not easy track to learn with many curves looking the same. It is a different feel and faster than ride1 of course, more stressing but i like it still. The sound in cockpit view is ok on the suzuki, even gets louder reverb it seems when you lean forward. Makes me more anxious for motogp18 or 19. Going to try a race next..

Edit2: well it is arcade when you go over the track limits in the dry or hit the a.i. for sure. But then i tried a race in the wet at mugello, and it's pretty good really. What's weird is the a.i. in qualif leave me behind but in race i can stay with them. Also it's easy to end up 1st or last because the racing is so much closer than in ride. Well its good and not easy to master, i just wish i spent this on motogp18. Cheers.
@jpine324 it be fun to see a small video of the bike race you're going to see. Thanks for the info before by the way. I'm still not sure if the legendary bikes dlc can be applied to the rossi compact game. Maybe ill wait for motogp19 with the historic bikes in that one. See you around the bend.
Edit3: im loving the handling challenge to master the bike now in rossi game in wet on mugelo. The thing though is in the cockpit view your point of view stays fixed in the middle and only the cockpit itself swings from left to right when turning. Theres no leaning and swaying from side to side at all from your point of view. It makes judging your positioning when aiming for a curve unnatural. Feels better a little in ride1 it seems for that. I was reading old posts on ride3 from @romanryunin and it made me think to mention it. Using pro and aids off, cockpit view by the way. And I'm loving the feel and movement apart from lack of side to side, you feel like the bike wants to get away from you hehe, i like it.

 

[John Wells]

Hehe yeah. I used to watch Rainey Doohan Shwantz back then. Also world and american superbikes with that Spies guy racer edging out the best riders of that time that i cant even remember names right now ouch. I thought they were amazing thrilling to watch, and the tracks too, like road america etc.
Some say the earlier games were more arcade before motogp17 or that rossi game.
That video whew looks wicked. Thanks John.

Been watching some clips on youtube, of 500s, really on the edge of riding, all the riders. Watch some AMA, when Neil Hodgson, went there. Foggy, Edwards, Bayliss, Chilli, Haga were really good in World Superbikes. MotoGp Roberts Jr, Capirossi, Checa, Biaggi, were still riding.

Been reading a good book 60 Years MotoGP, from 1949 to present, lot of interviews from stars of yesterday.

 

[Jtheripper]

Been watching some clips on youtube, of 500s, really on the edge of riding, all the riders. Watch some AMA, when Neil Hodgson, went there. Foggy, Edwards, Bayliss, Chilli, Haga were really good in World Superbikes. MotoGp Roberts Jr, Capirossi, Checa, Biaggi, were still riding.

Been reading a good book 60 Years MotoGP, from 1949 to present, lot of interviews from stars of yesterday.

Hehe yeah i used to watch those guys. I should check it out more.
I like your pics of motogp15 historic bikes, do you know John if the legendary bikes dlc can be added to the compact rossi game?

 

[John Wells]

Not sure Ripper, may be someone will know

 

[Jtheripper]

Not sure Ripper, may be someone will know

Do u know when they started using 4 stroke or when they stopped using 2 stroke John? I wonder if in motogp19 they will have the older bikes like in motogp15 and 16 from 1990s etc.

 

[adamp93]

Do u know when they started using 4 stroke or when they stopped using 2 stroke John? I wonder if in motogp19 they will have the older bikes like in motogp15 and 16 from 1990s etc.

4 Strokes first came in 2002, there were still 500cc bikes in that season but not many. 2003 were all 4 Strokes.