mugen hot lap (tokyo r246) (GT3)

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Thanks a lot, too. It's very interesting to compare the times, but I will do that later....here it's 7:15 am and I should go to bed, otherwise I would probably miss the F1 race by sleeping :lol:.


Cya




HIROGEN
 
@Mr. Persistance:


I compared the sector times....and at sector 11 both you and I have the same time... 2.137 ...but your average speed is 235 km/h, and mine is 236 km/h ....did you converted the speeds from mph to km/h(so it's because of rounding)? Or maybe it's another 'bug' like the data logger lap time, which differs sometimes from lap time of the save file and the highscore list.... is it all a rounding problem? ...hhmmm..I don't know.


@JBSchumacher:

Congrats for your 3'06.968 with F094/S at Complex String....awesome time :eek:...
...I would like to see this run, but the MPEG at Bobkart's Homepage is just a LITTLE bit :lol: too big for downloading with Dreamcast. I hope that the hard disk and modem/BBA for PS2 is purchasable soon.





HIROGEN
 
Ok i see what you are on about man :confused: my screen shows speed in km/h and thats how i typed it , could be a bug :confused: not sure but my replay can verify that my sector 11 is as i typed it :confused: still very weird though and well spotted ;) i'll post the x-port replay as soon as someone requests it :D laters
 
What I think it may be is simply a matter of displacement, I also think the average may be calculated from the speedometer (which most likely measures wheel speed) and not from the time over the distance of the sector. If one person takes a slightly wider line with more speed than someone else who takes a tighter line, they may balance out.
 
Although I pulled a 3'06'634 in the wee hours this morning. I watched the replay, and I just *knicked* a cone, and it barely fell over. I almost :( when I looked in the rear view to see it just tip over. :(

Although, in the process, I found another possible .6 in the run, so we're looking at a possible 3'05 flat... But this time, I'm almost sure that's it.

I keep running like this for about a week, and that elusive 3'05'XXX :fdevil: lap is going to be mine. ;)

It's coming guys, I can feel it now. :P :cool: 😈

Oooh..... Catch me now. :fdevil:

Why do I have to be such a perfectionist? :lol: Maybe it's the fact that I don't want this record to be broken, so I'm trying to get it as close to perfect as possible.
 
Had a run at this a few days ago and only managed to pull off a 1'34.501 after a few laps :(. I was sitting there wondering how you all were pulling off 1'32s and such. Then I saw where one person is in the 1'30 range. So today I had another run at this and realized that its really important to stay off the wall and speed through the corners using the rumble strips. So after nearly 25 laps I managed a time of 1'32.250 :cool: . There is still plenty of time to be shaven off of this though.

Here are my sector times:

T1: 0'13.430
T2: 0'50.525

Once again, I've noticed a difference between the lap time of the replay and the lap time of the load replay screen. The lap time of the replay says 1'32.238, while the time for the load up screen says 1'32.250. Funny how when I actually ran the lap it displayed the lap time as being 1'32.250, but on the loaded replay the time is slightly faster.
 
@Mr Persistance:

Just for information....I didn't want to query your lap time....I just wanted to know, if it was a typing error just a 'rounding bug' as you can see sometimes at the total lap time of the data logger. Leaving that bug out I'm not contented with the data logger....the data logger of F355 Challenge is more comfortable and gives you more information....but I know, lamenting does not help anyone :lol:.



HIROGEN
 
Originally posted by jbschumacher

...Why do I have to be such a perfectionist? :lol: Maybe it's the fact that I don't want this record to be broken, so I'm trying to get it as close to perfect as possible.
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Hehe :)....my intentions were similar to yours, when I was improving my lap time of Tokyo with Castrol Tom's Supra(O.Z's challenge) about 3 days ago....and it's still possible to shave off 2 or 3 tenths....that's really addictive.

BTW, I'll give it a go soon to drive with a F1 car at Complex String....but I use PAL version, and I wonder, if there are differences between the F094/S and the Polyphony001. Do you know something about that?




HIROGEN
 
Originally posted by FuryX21
Had a run at this a few days ago and only managed to pull off a 1'34.501...

...I managed a time of 1'32.250 :cool:...
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Once again, I've noticed a difference between the lap time of the replay and the lap time of the load replay screen. The lap time of the replay says 1'32.238, while the time for the load up screen says 1'32.250. Funny how when I actually ran the lap it displayed the lap time as being 1'32.250, but on the loaded replay the time is slightly faster.
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:thumbsup: An improvement by more than 2 seconds...well done. And yes, it's really very important to use the curbs.



Concerning the lap time differences between data logger and the displayed lap time when you just finished the lap, I remember that somebody posted on a GT3 forum(can't remember which forum it was)....he evolved the theory, that the difference is due to the starting/finishing line...
...the starting/finishing line is..let's say 1 metre wide....and when you are just running a lap the clock will stops just when you are crossing the end of the line...
...but at the data logger(or when you are watching the replay at the replay theatre) the clock stops already at the beginning of the line...

...oohhh...I hope my English is understandable...

...but I would say this theory makes sense, although that time difference doesn't appear every time you run a lap....but maybe it depends on the track....maybe not all tracks have a starting/finishing line which is 1 metre wide...
...or supposing that all tracks have a 1 metre line, the programmers were slovenly and made it in different ways....hhmmm.




HIROGEN
 
Originally posted by HIROGEN


BTW, I'll give it a go soon to drive with a F1 car at Complex String....but I use PAL version, and I wonder, if there are differences between the F094/S and the Polyphony001. Do you know something about that?


HIROGEN
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The Polyphony 001 = F094/S
Polyphony 002 = F688/S

Some people have thoughts that the F094/S is slightly better than the PAL 001, but I doubt it. Considering at every track the times for both cars driven by excellent drivers compare very equally.

Although, if you've seen Wiese's 3'12' run here in the PAL 001, you'd probably swear that there wasn't almost 6 seconds possibly had. That run is smoking ;) , mine is blazing :eek: .

I watched bobkart's 3'15 and Wiese's 3'12 and I decided to give it a go myself. After viewing them, I didn't think there was much to be had, but my first lap out I pulled a 3'14. That's when I knew that these times were great, but far off perfect.
 
Thanks Paulkleiner and JBSchumacher for replying.


@JBSchumacher:

What kind of nose does your F094/S have? A low one or a high one. The Poly001 I have has a high nose, but I just saw a picture of a F094/S on Didi's(owner of gt.de) Homepage:

www.granturismo.de/gt3/frames/gt3.htm

--->hit 'F1 Wagen'


...that picture is out of the Japanese version, and it has a low nose. Maybe there are just optical differences, no differences at performance/speed.



Cya

HIROGEN
 
Link don't work, so here it is....
 

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I just watched my Poly001, I have the black one, too....and they look equal, same stickers....but the nose of your F094/S seems to be a little bit lower.
We could run our cars at the 1000m test, then we could see whether there's a differnce or not....but I have no Poly001 at 0 mileage....maybe I'll get a new one soon.
Anyway, thanks for your quick reply and picture.




HIROGEN
 
But, we could run 0-1000 and see what happens.

Run it, post your settings, and take off at full throttle, use auto so we know that it's not shifting causing a difference. Then I could use the same settings and run it myself.

My F094/S has 813 HP, if you have one after the HP drop, your's should be the same.
 
I hate waiting for replies.

Okay, first run was a 15.887 (with the aforementioned method of driving)...

The setup I used can be found at http://forums.gtplanet.net/showthread.php?s=&threadid=7248

2nd run was an identical 15.887

3rd run once again 15.887

Don't think it's gonna change if I keep doing the same thing. :lol:

I took off by keep holding the throttle down after hitting "Start" to start the run.

All runs have 8.817 T1's (this is the 400M time here)
 
Originally posted by jbschumacher

...Run it, post your settings, and take off at full throttle, use auto so we know that it's not shifting causing a difference. Then I could use the same settings and run it myself...
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Sorry for waiting, my fault....didn't see your reply.


I use exactly that method to find out the best shifting point of a car :).

Ok...did 3 runs....always it took 16.439 sec.
My Poly001 has 801 PS...mileage 98,3 km...no oilchange....and standard settings(didn't change anything).

So it's not easy to say, whether there's a difference or not.



HIROGEN
 
Just watched your settings, JBS...

You have set ASM 1 ....AFAIK ASM uses the brake, so if you set it to 0 you can shave off a few tenths. In view of the very long Complex String it could be a clear effect.



HIROGEN
 
i've been very lenient, but i will consult with jordan on what to do if this happens again. btw, i did not design this rule, so do not complain at me. these forums, aside from the main C & R forum were partially my idea, but the rules are pretty much jordan's
 
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