My Honest Opinion of the RedBull X2011
- Thread starter jagenigma
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Whaaaat?!?!
You do realize that Jimmie Johnson is one the most fit racing drivers in any series of motorsport. on the order of magnitude of Michael Schumacher in his prime.
you chose about the worst example you could have.
you should have said,
"They're not going to spend countless millions of dollars constructing it just to toss the keys to Dick Trickle"
(a real retired stock car driver,for those uninformed).
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It's indeed an age old question what an F1 car would be like without any restrictions but I doubt the X2010 is the answer to that.
I was looking forward to this car as I thought it could be exactly that and I don't doubt the technology to create a real X2010 exists.
Thing is, this car was designed purely from a technological viewpoint without any need to worry if it could be used by the current crop of F1 drivers on todays F1 tracks (I know it isn't an F1 car but still) which would be a huge factor to consider if they decided to build an F1 car without any regulations.
But just because it was only going to be used in a videogame doesn't necessarily take away this factor, they simply chose to ignore it.
I think if they did take this into consideration, since it's a factor which is equally important as the laws of physics if you want it to be driven by people, they'd not only have created something which would be far more feasible but perhaps more fun and useable in GT5 itself.
No regulations doesn't mean there are no limits.
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- Exorcet
- OE Exorcet
I think you've jump to conclusions to quickly. The car requires perfection to make the most out of it. You might think you're going quick, but if you take it online and race someone who knows what they're doing, they could blow you away.
It's a lot of fun either way.
But like you said, it's not an F1 car. It doesn't need to fit F1 tracks.
Well, it being in a game allows them to make tracks that suit it. Also, perhaps the point was the car itself. PD could have tried developing an X1 race series in the game for the car, but they didn't.
jagenigmaI finally have my PS3 back in over a year and now have GT5. I got the XL edition so it comes with the Redbull X2011. At first glance to me, it looks like an F1 car from the future, like what F1 may be in the year 2030 or so if it lasts as long as that. It is INSANELY fast and turns on a damn dime. It is the ultimate vehicle at 1500HP+ and 768nm torque, Super light weight at 545kg, and I have gotten it to a top speed of 297MPH on SSR7 on stock settings.
It feels like if I was in the car in real life, and I was taking a very sharp turn, my face would tear in the opposite direction because of the G's it pulls on the corners. Now, all that being said, as much as I like the car, it is very hard for me to take the X2011 seriously. In all of the other GT's you have a car that you can tune up to a great amount of horsepower and give it a tunable suspension, gearbox etc. and you can make it handle as well as possible. You actually have to work at it, learn how the car handles and set it up so you can drive it better.
This car though, it has all of that straight out of the box. Its like an ultimate cheat car that won't let you learn the real aspects of racing or driving and should be a car that you get if you have done everything else in the game.
Now all that being said, I like speed in a race. To me its everything, fast cornering, very fast acceleration, and a high top speed, that is very important to me. It all comes wrapped up in this car. I just feel like this car should be more deserved if you have gotten at least to level 45 or so. But god, is this car fun...
Hate this car. People use the x1 to mess around and crash people. They have to know how and when to use this car, and use it the right way
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- danardif1
That was more a 'what if' for some of PD saw as regression in F1. They effectively combined the 'current' aero of a 2004/5 car with the power that a contemporary F1-level V12 (as opposed to the V10's and upcoming V8's) would produce. They also added in a wider track, as a response to the changes to the width of F1 cars in 1998, including slick tyres without the grooves as well.
In that sense it was almost a semi-nostalgic 'what if', but updated for current ideas and tech. The X1 is a semi-futuristic idea, incorporating what feasibly could be done now, but is more likely to be possible at a fundable level in say 10-15 years.
Both are designed to work within the physics of the game though, so both offer us players the chance to sample these possibilities.
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- nitrorocks
Yeah. Insanely fast V10's
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- entertowin(1st) and niNjasPY55(2nd and m
analog
Which is true. But what about the Bartham F1 of the '70s? That car uses fan technology similar to the X1/X2 and being back in that era and without today's tech the Bartham F1 was a force to handle for the F1 drivers back then.
The X1 Has too much on the handling department that can be truly dangerous, even with a professional F1 driver, can cause some undesirable results. So yeah the technology of today wouldn't fit this car quite well, unless you detune the engine and/or design it to corner like a modern F1.
But that takes away the feel of the car IMO. So if Red Bull Racing and PD or any private F1 team wants to create this may have to wait more than 10-15 years, unless you take technology from the F-22 VTOLs, stealth bombers and NASA's aerospace technology. I believe that the X1/X2 uses one of these two concepts or both if it's created in real life.
Exorcet
I think it's better suited on F1 tracks. Just picture this car on Spa, Silverstone or worse, the Nurburgring 24h format. Espically a track like the'Ring with over a hundred corners and some of them located in different elevations. That combination makes a roller coaster ride from heck
.nitrorocks
Oh yeah, I can see it now with a turbo setup included
👍. Beat that!
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- Botafogo4life
+1000
Any publicity is good publicity I guess; but as I said from the start I'm surprised Red Bull F1 even attached their name to this, much less admit that they had a hand in designing it with some grade-school theoretical physics/engineering...It looks and drives like something I'd draw in my notebook when not paying attention to my 3rd grade teacher (except my version had machine guns on it)...
I'm not even an engineer and I can say the engineering behind it is nonsensical...Too big, too wide, completely incompatible with modern racetracks, too impractical for racing, it's a nightmare for crash safety and the prolonged g-forces at speed are easily beyond human limits...
But the car did allow me to win 24-hour endurances even after parking the car for a third of the race, so I'm grateful for that at least...
The X1 would be a better fit in Wipeout HD Fury...Remember the Nike 2022 in GT4? yeah, it was kinda silly but at least it represented true outside of the box thinking, rather than a pretty transparent mashup of an F1/LMP/Chaparral with some fighter jet styling cues tossed in...
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- AJ_Foyt_Racing
The X1 is an amazing car in the hands of a skilled driver, but unfortunately EVERYONE has one and thinks they can and have to drive it in every situation. This is probably the main reason many people dislike the car, including me.
When GT5 first came out people were usually in awe when someone brought out the X1 because few had it but now most people are disgusted.
When GT5 first came out people were usually in awe when someone brought out the X1 because few had it but now most people are disgusted.
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- SlyckTires
83! Seriously? I have about a dozen and while I knew there'd be someone with more out there, I wasn't reckoning on that.
Back to the OP. Since you've only just got the game, you won't have unlocked the Vettel challenge in the "special" area. Once you get to level 30, there's this new event, 2 laps of Ring GP, Monza & Suzuka. Admittedly it's the X2010, but there's not a mountain of difference. See what you think once you've tried for trophies in this event.
A fighter pilot can take 9G of compression, the G force is acting down on his spine, in the X1 the G force is lateral, effectively trying to rip his head off his body, rather than trying to push it into your body.
I don't know what G a human neck can take, but I get the feeling an X1 taking a hair pin at close to 100 mph will do it.
I don't like it at all, watching a reply of an X1 I can't help but hear the Benny Hill theme playing. It just looks stupid and wrong. Like those old movies where they just sped the tape up, very unnatural.
I don't know what G a human neck can take, but I get the feeling an X1 taking a hair pin at close to 100 mph will do it.
I don't like it at all, watching a reply of an X1 I can't help but hear the Benny Hill theme playing. It just looks stupid and wrong. Like those old movies where they just sped the tape up, very unnatural.
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I love it, it really pushes a driver to the limits. In other words, it's the perfect lap car. But I still prefer the FGT, it's much hairer to drive.
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- DA6righthand
Thumbs down. It's too unrealistic in my opinion. Just not for me.
Edit: one can't deny that the car is, indeed, pretty cool though.
Edit: one can't deny that the car is, indeed, pretty cool though.
