My Honest Opinion of the RedBull X2011

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This. I think the X1 is a very believable car. It was designed by someone that knew what he was doing and every curve of he car has a purpose. It would not go as fast as we push on the game though for obvious safety reasons but it would be a true record breaker. If it is built in the future (how awesome would that be?) I don't believe it could be called an "F1 car" as F1s are open wheelers and have open cockpit while the X1 is neither. It would be more like an LMP.

I think the only thing that bothers me about the car is the wheels being sealed up. Seems like it would seriously slow down tire changing.
 
I think the only thing that bothers me about the car is the wheels being sealed up. Seems like it would seriously slow down tire changing.

Maybe. The cover could be attached to the wheel much like how the hubcaps were in the front wheels of the F1 cars last year (?). They improve the car's aero a lot.
Or maybe X1 races could be really short. Or have very long pit stops. :)
 
It's nice to have the car in the game, but event though I have it I'll hardly ever drive it. It takes away from the 'real-life aspect' of GT5.
 
I see what you mean, but I don't think it is a hard move to get 1500hp or more from a 3L V6 in a F1 car. Back in the golden days of F1. They used 1.5-2L engines and they built them with hp numbers that will blow your mind. No one would ever think of a 1.5L engine producing over 1000hp.

But I totally agree with you on the rest. The X1 is a amazing machine that (mostly later in the future) can change the way we see F1 cars and bring a whole new level to Formula 1 racing. If the rules change for the car and others like the X1 to exist it is possible, but it will be costly from R&D time and driver training to make sure the drivers can operate it in different situations and can take the huge g-forces.

Its not the figures that bother me on what it produces it the engine type they chose if they said "we'll us a 1.5-2.0l v8,10 or 12" I'd believe it but a 3.0l v6 has huge pistons in comparison and thus has a huge rotating mass that simply cant hold up to the revs they want to produce and the power. The weight of it would be a huge hinderance on power.
 
I love the X1. The thrill I get whilst driving it is literally unmatched, especially with that extremely strong force feedback, you really have to wrestle it.
 
As a dualshock 3 player, i dont like driving the X2010/11
I dont hate it though, as i love cars and PD worked with Adrian Newey ( the king of car design ) to design it.
 
Note that the clever use of the word pilot. Anyone can be quick in an x1 but it takes a true pilot to "fly" this vehicle at its potential.


Actually, not everyone can be quick in this thing, unless you are talking about top speed runs at the DLC Xtrack :yuck:
 
I think the term pilot is often interchanged with the word driver in Formula 1.
 
^ when i said that i mean anyone can dominate an a or b spec in game race i.e. japanese grand prix in the expert series.
 
I don't use it much at this stage, but I love the inclusion of the X2010 and X2011 in the game. I have been imagining for years what a modern F1 car could be like if not for the restrictions and how far things could be taken with modern technology.

It's only my opinion, but I really don't understand the suggestions from some that it's not realistic. Yes, for all we know the involvement of Red Bull could be just good spin, but I personally believe that Adrian Newey really did use the same skills that he puts into his F1 cars for the design of the X2010. As he points out in the promo vid on GT TV, the physics of what's possible is what tells them whether a car will work or not before they even build it, and all signs point to this being a car that really could be built to perform just like it does in the game. This provided of course that a human being could keep up with it. It's suggested in the same video that it would be right on the limits of what could be withstood by the human body.

I think saying that the car is a complete fantasy is like suggesting that Adrian Newey & Red Bull somehow don't know much about race cars, & last time I checked Red Bull was pretty darn successful in F1! :)
 
^ when i said that i mean anyone can dominate an a or b spec in game race i.e. japanese grand prix in the expert series.

But you don't even need an X1 to do that. PD makes two types of races. Iron fist restrictions (rare, especially outside of B-Spec) or anything goes. A fully tuned Viper ACR took me from the lowest level races all the way up to LMP races when the game came out, and it was almost never a "fair fight".

but I really don't understand the suggestions from some that it's not realistic. Yes, for all we know the involvement of Red Bull could be just good spin, but I personally believe that Adrian Newey really did use the same skills that he puts into his F1 cars for the design of the X2010. As he points out in the promo vid on GT TV, the physics of what's possible is what tells them whether a car will work or not before they even build it, and all signs point to this being a car that really could be built to perform just like it does in the game. This provided of course that a human being could keep up with it. It's suggested in the same video that it would be right on the limits of what could be withstood by the human body.

I think saying that the car is a complete fantasy is like suggesting that Adrian Newey & Red Bull somehow don't know much about race cars, & last time I checked Red Bull was pretty darn successful in F1! :)

Exactly. As far as I can tell, the X1 is just like any other car. It uses the same old GT physics engine, just has it's own unique inputs like any other car. It's just as realistic as anything else in the game.
 
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