My idea for GT5 that would replace liscence tests

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I would be hugely disappointed if licence test were to go, I got to the skill level I am now largely thanks to the licence test which forced me to imporve myself as a driver to achieve all silvers and then all golds, you can't rely on faster cars or tunes to do the work for you.
 
yGT4's physics made it impossible to complete S license

Do not agree. "Golding" the S licences in GT4 was the easiest of all Gran Turismo games so far. Hardest ever were in first GT, than GT3, than GT2, than GT4. At least in my book.

I have all golds and I call them D'Oro. My prescious :D
 
Do not agree. "Golding" the S licences in GT4 was the easiest of all Gran Turismo games so far. Hardest ever were in first GT, than GT3, than GT2, than GT4. At least in my book.

I have all golds and I call them D'Oro. My prescious :D

I agree with amar212 the GT4 S licences are not impossible, I assume them just like a real challenge!!!

:D:tup:
 
Licensing was always a huge part for me to hone my skills before getting into the big boys league, i would never have gotten out the max in the various cars if it wasn´t for those!
 
I would HATE for the licence tests to have to be done to enter online race depending on their difficulty. HATE!!!!!!!!!!!
 
So you'd prefer to ump straight into the most difficult races against the most experienced drivers without an ounce of experience to your name?

Licence tests exist for a reason: the slow you down and teach you how to drive properly. It's to prevent you from getting your hands on supecars very early in the game, then constantly wiping out because you find them difficult to control and then giving up. A lot of newcomers to the series have no experience with simulators like Gran Turismo, and thus they need to build their skillset up from nothing.

Or did you think Polyphony Digital only made the games for us fans?
 
Licenses are important. They allow the experience of driving a new test, to challenge the driver, in a way that reflects a real life career. For instance, you need to show that you have the necessary skills to step forward. You can't start at the top, can you?

Do You Race?
So you'd prefer to ump straight into the most difficult races against the most experienced drivers without an ounce of experience to your name?

Licence tests exist for a reason: the slow you down and teach you how to drive properly. It's to prevent you from getting your hands on supecars very early in the game, then constantly wiping out because you find them difficult to control and then giving up. A lot of newcomers to the series have no experience with simulators like Gran Turismo, and thus they need to build their skillset up from nothing.

Or did you think Polyphony Digital only made the games for us fans?

Huh?

So how come no other racing game I Played in the last three Generations of Gaming Consoles have License Tests?

Forza Don't have 'em. Entushia didn't have 'em. The Toca Series (and Yes, I am counting Jarrett & Labonte Stock Car Racing, Which is still one of my favorite racing games [or games in general] of all time) didn't have 'em.

I haven't played many other racing games other than those, but I mentioned those three because those are the three most closest competitors to the Gran Turismo Franchise that I've Played, and yet they chose not to have license tests.

Makes you wonder.....:odd:

oh, and BTW, if you happen to know of any racing games that do have license tests, just let me know.....
 
What's your point?

If anything, GT should keep licence tests because they're something of a trademark to the franchise. Yes, they can be frustrating, but learning how to drive in-game and perfecting your technique is far more rewarding than simply jumping straight into the races.
 
I would not like to see a Gran Turismo without the License Tests. It's the only place where you can go to test your skills in different situations and get them graded. I love that!
 
I would not like to see a Gran Turismo without the License Tests. It's the only place where you can go to test your skills in different situations and get them graded. I love that!
And it also gives you a chance to drive cars that you may not normally purchase otherwise. I know I've found more than one hidden gem from the tests.
 
And it also gives you a chance to drive cars that you may not normally purchase otherwise. I know I've found more than one hidden gem from the tests.

Chrysler Crossfire in GT4 was a pleasant surprise. lol. I think it was a license test I drove it first in... maybe manufacturer race...
 
I don't understand why you would want to remove license tests from the GT series. They are a part of why GT became successfull and they are something a little different and they certainly helped me get a little better at the game. The license tests might have been a little difficult at times, although only to get gold and the good ones far out weighed the bad ones. Anyway I am almost certain they will be in GT5, with the Top Gear Test Track set to be included, it seems a perfect place for some of them to take place.
 
I don't think its the case he can't get bronze, it's the case he doesn't want to bothered. He probably just want to start the game and race, thats what Arcade mode is for.
 
Yeah, taking away the licence tests would make GT just ike every other driving game.

That said, I hope PD continue the trend of not having the actual gold/silver/bronze having a different weighting in your overall percentage completion. I find it very difficult to get more than silver in most tests, but I do like to have 100% completion.
 
Licence system is fine.

When I first picked up GT4, I was absolutely ***** at tests, however I could pass everyone one with atleast a bronze after a few goes.

They were never too hard, and it worked out alright as it meant I didn't have to do every race in every group, which would have been annoying.
 
What? I completeted the S license in Bronze without problems and i bet here are thousands of users who have all gold.

*Raises hand*

I don't see any problem with licence tests whatsoever. If people put the effort into licence tests then I'd argue that it does make them better drivers in the game.

I'm not one of these people who'd like the game even more difficult, but a level of difficulty is essential, especially that we now have an online mode.

If anything, completing licence tests at certain difficulties should be essential to being able to access certain classes in online racing. This would at least allow some parity between drivers in each class. I very much doubt that people who punt in races are the sort who get all gold licences, for example, so requiring say, 70% Gold licences should be the entry requirement for the professional events. Voila, you remove probably 90% of the punters at a stroke.

And the licences would have to be tied to individual users, to prevent people downloading saves from the internet immediately accessing all-gold licences. There'd be no point having any challenge to the game if everyone could just download a complete game save.
 
I very much doubt that people who punt in races are the sort who get all gold licences, for example, so requiring say, 70% Gold licences should be the entry requirement for the professional events. Voila, you remove probably 90% of the punters at a stroke.

Haha! I suspect punters are the same people who want licenses removed and scoff at the inclusion of damage modeling :sly:
 
Personally i like the license test because it helps me to learn a track one turn at a time, if slowly at times. But an idea I currently have as License test that could be taken instead of the license tests, but the other isn't omitted for people whom want the all gold rides. The idea is a Skip Barber Racing School like system to earning a license. Start off doing Autocross, to see basic skill. If a certian time is gotten, you can move on to just doing laps at a circuit. Then after a set amount of time, you do laps on a track with other NPC's who have done the same. Then after a set amount of time without mishap, you get a B license.

How's that for an idea?
 
I personally think license tests should be even more stringent with a harder focus on skill and technique, instead of just bombing through corners and bashing into walls like all those fools that make online racing impossible for people like me.
 
I personally think license tests should be even more stringent with a harder focus on skill and technique, instead of just bombing through corners and bashing into walls like all those fools that make online racing impossible for people like me.

I'll eleborate.

When I first picked GT4 up the day it came out (I'd owned 2 and 3 before) the license tests were familiar, many of them with a more realistic setting and execution, and all of them were pretty tough. It was hard to gold most of them.

Nowadays it's hard for me not to gold them. I've learned so many real driving techniques that are used on real cars, and they just happen to work in the game, too. Using good technique the majority of the golds are pretty easy. That's why they're so tough--they're requiring you to actually become a better driver and to understand how to control your car better. This isn
t just videogame stuff. This applies to the daily drive to work, to avoid that dog that runs out in front of you, etc.

Plus, you get a great sense of accomplishment when you see all golds, and know you can straighten out a set of corners like its nobody's business.
 
Still waiting on the thread-starter to justify why he thinks licence tests should be scrapped completely. Bonus points if he can do it without presenting his opinion as the opinion of the entire forum.
 
*Raises hand*

I don't see any problem with licence tests whatsoever. If people put the effort into licence tests then I'd argue that it does make them better drivers in the game.

I'm not one of these people who'd like the game even more difficult, but a level of difficulty is essential, especially that we now have an online mode.

If anything, completing licence tests at certain difficulties should be essential to being able to access certain classes in online racing. This would at least allow some parity between drivers in each class. I very much doubt that people who punt in races are the sort who get all gold licences, for example, so requiring say, 70% Gold licences should be the entry requirement for the professional events. Voila, you remove probably 90% of the punters at a stroke.

+1 👍

The licence tests and driving missions make you a better driver for sure. I very much like the idea of having to pass a certain level of licence tests to be able to access certain online races.

In GT4 i could never be bothered to 'gold' all the tests, but i have past many a pleasant hour at least 'silvering' all the licences and i doubt that i ever ran any particular coffee break more than twice, if at all. This just reflects my commitment to completing the game and if this means that certain races remain 'locked' to me then i am fine with this.
 
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