Actually, I am having a free month trial of Gold and have got to say, I am not impressed. Don't think I'll bother to be honest. You try to find an online lobby or whatever and it's nigh on impossible. Keeps waiting for other races to be completed, or tells you it's synced drivatars and yet you're driving solo with no sod around. Nah, not for me.
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He's talking about "Gold" and "Drivatars", so it's obviously Forza.
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Yeah well, it was sort of asking for something like that anyway. That sentence was.. more than a few levels lower than I ever thought I could possibly go and completely uncalled-for. It is, as you say, exactly that sort of posts that means a whole lot of bad things happen. No idea why I apparently decided it was postable.
I guess that's an early sign of my brain evaporating in front of me
So let's call a spade a spade and tick that off the bucket list.
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The average consumer isn't going to do that. Nor should it be a requirement for enjoyment of a sim racer's online elements.
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Aww... disappointed.
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The problem with that is, GTS seems to be so geared towards e-sports that to experience the game as its meant to be you have no choice but to drive in public lobbies. If you want to take part in the Official Championships and Manufacturers Cup then public lobbies are your only choice. And despite the SR system and my high level I saw unacceptable behaviour in 90% of the lobbies I was in during the beta.
This game will live and die by PDi getting the BOP and SR systems right. If they don't it will be a failure.
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For anyone looking towards the day when we'll get a game with actual tools for curating fair-play online racing or driving - I recommend to support GTSport, that is the only game so far that had beta that was actually primarily dedicated to testing and tuning such tools. And it was already shown that they are pushing that development post beta as well, and that this element will continually stay very high in their focus.
Keep participating in that, keep giving back every type of feedback (not to me, but to developer on dedicated forums) to push further development - because we can be sure that any solutions that prove themselves as functional will also get implemented into other games by other developers. Same as PD should do and does by looking at iRacing or rFactor formulas.
Keep participating in that, keep giving back every type of feedback (not to me, but to developer on dedicated forums) to push further development - because we can be sure that any solutions that prove themselves as functional will also get implemented into other games by other developers. Same as PD should do and does by looking at iRacing or rFactor formulas.
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SMS already have one in PC2. So I would advise everyone one to buy PC2 and GTS. In fact I'd advise everyone to buy PC2, GTS, FM7, F1 2017, WRC7, etc. We are all racing game fans after all.
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PC2 thumbs up, yet let's be clear - only GTS had beta, and not just some general beta but one primarily dedicated to what we are talking about.
That said, I do recomend supporting as many racing titles as one can. This is a niche genre and it needs all of our support all the time
That said, I do recomend supporting as many racing titles as one can. This is a niche genre and it needs all of our support all the time
I think on the beta, they accelerated the ranking up, so that s why you really dont see any difference on the behaviour on the classes
You can't reach S rank with a few event on short time, it will be different on the final release, longer progression, so skilled driver are more dispatched and suitable on their class, compared to the Beta experience
But they need to improve the gaining points to rank up, because with the Beta System, even a dirty driver can manage to rank up easily.
And open lobby doesn't have SR system, so depending on room, rules, host, leagues etc so on you will have clean races or not
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PC2 had a much longer beta than GTS and alpha. I know because I've been a member of it.PC2 thumbs up, yet let's be clear - only GTS had beta, and not just some general beta but one primarily dedicated to what we are talking about.
That said, I do recomend supporting as many racing titles as one can. This is a niche genre and it needs all of our support all the time
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But in open loby you will be loby owner and would get to set rules and invite people or, possibly, to kick out.
Or just learn witch other loby owners suit your style and keep developing relations with those.
Or just learn witch other loby owners suit your style and keep developing relations with those.
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I agree, but for all the official races we will be racing in public lobbies. If the systems don't work correctly in those and it's a crap shoot like the vast majority of other public lobbies then it will end in failure.
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Sure, but it wasn't beta quite as open as GTS (witch was limited in number but not in character) for all sorts of people but one only for dedicated supporters like you, nice people with nice manners and honed racing skills. That is to an extent different from all the issues with unruly players that actualy released game gets
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It wasn't as open as GTS beta? GTS beta want open, at all. Wasn't it stated to have selected users that have previously played the series before? Either way, it's a moot point, because it was not open.Sure, but it wasn't beta quite as open as GTS (witch was limited in number but not in character) for all sorts of people but one only for dedicated supporters like you, nice people with nice manners and honed racing skills. That is to an extent different from all the issues with unruly players that actualy released game gets
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Best comment in the video:
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I said that GTS beta was not quite as closed as pCARS2 beta. pCARS2 beta is for people that ACTIVELY support the game, that have even invested money into the game.
And we were not discussing EVERYTHING about beta but witch one was more apropriate for testing tools for controlling people that crash ON PURPOSE into other people to much.
If someone points out how he had that type of experiance in previous GT onlines and that previous GT players were alowed into the beta that means that % of "crashers" that got into GTS beta is quite representative of usual GT player profile ("those" people also love online, obviously for troling it, but LOVE doing that so they had quite ample motivation to go trough very simple aplication proces).
But to get into pCARS beta you have to be (on %) quite more then a normal player compared to what will be just average profile once game gets into stores.
And we were not discussing EVERYTHING about beta but witch one was more apropriate for testing tools for controlling people that crash ON PURPOSE into other people to much.
If someone points out how he had that type of experiance in previous GT onlines and that previous GT players were alowed into the beta that means that % of "crashers" that got into GTS beta is quite representative of usual GT player profile ("those" people also love online, obviously for troling it, but LOVE doing that so they had quite ample motivation to go trough very simple aplication proces).
But to get into pCARS beta you have to be (on %) quite more then a normal player compared to what will be just average profile once game gets into stores.
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It doesn't matter, they where closed to the public, except there was one that you where to get into had you made the choice, the other you had to be specifically selected. The latter being GTS. Whatever the case, it doesn't change the fact that GTS beta was not open.
I don't get what you're talking about for the last part. The Pcars2 Beta is on going and continues to update to the members throughout it's life. It'll test multiple things, just like the GTS beta. How you come to assume that about one exact specific area, as if you think the competition didn't take on the similar gathering of information with their own beta, doesn't make much sense.
And this means what?
Why?
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I do not understand how you didn't understand how it was much easier for PD to make sure that their beta has all kinds of players (good, bad and ugly), unlike pCARS beta testers who are much more on "good" and much much lacking on "ugly/trol" profile of players... YET, when both games get released, BOTH GAMES will have quite normal % of good and of bad and of ugly players... oh, that's that simple
But, I will not judge if you still CHOOSE not to understand this one point of difference.
Yeeeees, they were both closed, but, as I have said, they were also quite different in that one specific regard. GTS beta was much more open to the "bad" and to the "ugly/trolling" players.
But, I will not judge if you still CHOOSE not to understand this one point of difference.
Yeeeees, they were both closed, but, as I have said, they were also quite different in that one specific regard. GTS beta was much more open to the "bad" and to the "ugly/trolling" players.
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Online Night racing in a GT3 racing league can't happen soon enough.
Really does look impressive.
Really does look impressive.
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This is a MASSIVE assumption on your behalf. To prove your point please provide a factual breakdown of the percentage of good, bad and ugly players in both betas.I do not understand how you didn't understand how it was much easier for PD to make sure that their beta has all kinds of players (good, bad and ugly), unlike pCARS beta testers who are much more on "good" and much much lacking on "ugly/trol" profile of players... YET, when both games get released, BOTH GAMES will have quite normal % of good and of bad and of ugly players... oh, that's that simple
But, I will not judge if you still CHOOSE not to understand this one point of difference.
Yeeeees, they were both closed, but, as I have said, they were also quite different in that one specific regard. GTS beta was much more open to the "bad" and to the "ugly/trolling" players.
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The problem is you keep pretending that the other beta isn't trying to gather similar information. These beta's are all around testing of fundamental segments of a game. Not that it had anything to with your original point, because you're the one that stated that they are the only one with a beta currently out trying to gather information on making their online segment better. Then you changed to say that it's not as open as GTS, and now you're saying that they're testing things others aren't, yet you have no idea what others are testing. The types of players in the beta was, and still is irrelevant to the goal posts you keep moving.I do not understand how you didn't understand how it was much easier for PD to make sure that their beta has all kinds of players (good, bad and ugly), unlike pCARS beta testers who are much more on "good" and much much lacking on "ugly/trol" profile of players... YET, when both games get released, BOTH GAMES will have quite normal % of good and of bad and of ugly players... oh, that's that simple
Do what you will, no skin off my nose.
What is Pcars2 testing? since you seem so sure of what they're not testing.
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I could have sworn that was said too.
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Plenty of those didn't get one. For example, I got into beta only trough account that I didn't use for gt6, but used it plenty for gt5 - for sending cards (and cars) and duplicating them between my multiple accounts.
Edit: and that also only ilustrates even more how in case of GTS beta - all sorts of people (like me
) used all kinds of "bad and ugly" methods to slip past PD's intention. And that produced even more intense testing of those tools that beta was suposed to test.
I can surely say that for people looking for online with tools developed to provide as much clean racing for all participants - GTSport will be most developed in that regard.
(I didn't say that PC, or Forza, or WRC, or F1 wont also do well.)
Edit: and that also only ilustrates even more how in case of GTS beta - all sorts of people (like me
) used all kinds of "bad and ugly" methods to slip past PD's intention. And that produced even more intense testing of those tools that beta was suposed to test.I can surely say that for people looking for online with tools developed to provide as much clean racing for all participants - GTSport will be most developed in that regard.
(I didn't say that PC, or Forza, or WRC, or F1 wont also do well.)
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If I remember right, the also here seen youtuber, @marvthegamer being one of those that didn't apply to the beta, still getting the access code. I think he mentioned it in one of his streams.
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