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This article was published by Andrew Evans (@Famine) on December 8th, 2020 in the Gran Turismo 7 category.
The black Mustang and the silver Carrera GT (the interior of which is in an earlier sequence) we saw back in June?How about the black Mustang and silver Carrera GT shown at 1:41? lol
Knew? No - though certainly expected.I thought we already knew that that GTS car list was coming to GT7?
Only PS5 isn't a surprise but it's cool to have a confirmation.
Knew? No - though certainly expected.
I'm wondering how much this is on Sony. It's such an odd choice to edit an already posted video to change wording you could easily argue for the ambiguity of - "anticipated first half of 2021" - to a far more nebulous phrasing... then post up another video with "Coming 2021" in it.
Sony has extremely good cause to push GT7 back too. PS5 demand by far outstrips supply; every PS5 shipped has gone - some were even stolen (allegedly by the couriers) and replaced with catfood and bricks. When the second tranche of consoles starts hitting storefronts, they'll go as well, and that's 10m consoles with nothing really pushing them off shelves.
If it launches before March there'll be an upper limit of people who can buy it (of 10m). We know GT tends to have a market penetration of ~10%, with half of lifetime sales coming in the first couple of weeks, so assuming 100m total consoles in PS5's lifetime that's 5m sales in weeks 1/2... from just 10m PS5 owners.
Worse than that is the fact that GT7 will sell consoles. It will create demand for consoles, which is the very last thing Sony needs right now. People are already angry that they can't get their PS5s, and more demand without more consoles will just make them angrier.
This would all result in a bit of a PR nightmare: not enough people buying the flagship game because they can't get the consoles they want to play it with. Sony naturally would want to avoid that.
Instead they'd want GT7 to launch after the initial demand has waned, to create a second wave of console demand but, crucially, with a new supply of consoles to satisfy it.
demon souls remake comparing to sekiro, dark souls 3 or bloodborne looks laughable better so it not weird age, its polyphonyWell i guess this is an early build because the leader light system is bugged out.I thought the GT7 trailer was just gtsport with texture update but it seems to be a separate dev build.
There should be two lights on the porsche like this :
Game looks great tho but it's weird to live in an age where no massive graphics jump happens anymore,i remember the jump from gt2 to gt3,mindblowing stuff.
That’s actually a very good theory for a delay, it makes total sense. Kaz is probably sweating a few less bullets now knowing an official delay won’t anger Sony exec’s.Knew? No - though certainly expected.
I'm wondering how much this is on Sony. It's such an odd choice to edit an already posted video to change wording you could easily argue for the ambiguity of - "anticipated first half of 2021" - to a far more nebulous phrasing... then post up another video with "Coming 2021" in it.
Sony has extremely good cause to push GT7 back too. PS5 demand by far outstrips supply; every PS5 shipped has gone - some were even stolen (allegedly by the couriers) and replaced with catfood and bricks. When the second tranche of consoles starts hitting storefronts, they'll go as well, and that's 10m consoles with nothing really pushing them off shelves.
If it launches before March there'll be an upper limit of people who can buy it (of 10m). We know GT tends to have a market penetration of ~10%, with half of lifetime sales coming in the first couple of weeks, so assuming 100m total consoles in PS5's lifetime that's 5m sales in weeks 1/2... from just 10m PS5 owners.
Worse than that is the fact that GT7 will sell consoles. It will create demand for consoles, which is the very last thing Sony needs right now. People are already angry that they can't get their PS5s, and more demand without more consoles will just make them angrier.
This would all result in a bit of a PR nightmare: not enough people buying the flagship game because they can't get the consoles they want to play it with. Sony naturally would want to avoid that.
Instead they'd want GT7 to launch after the initial demand has waned, to create a second wave of console demand but, crucially, with a new supply of consoles to satisfy it.
Given that Kaz is one of the Corporate Executives of Sony Computer Entertainment, I don't think he'd sweat much regardless.That’s actually a very good theory for a delay, it makes total sense. Kaz is probably sweating a few less bullets now knowing an official delay won’t anger Sony exec’s.
demon souls remake comparing to sekiro, dark souls 3 or bloodborne looks laughable better so it not weird age, its polyphony
I dind't compare with original on ps3. Why I can't compare remake of predecessor of these games with main difference that it now run on ps5 and not on ps4? yes bluepoint is not from software but demon souls remake was made with colaboration wit sony japan studio that also helped with bloodborne. I think comparison is valid and difference is huge and also don't belive that demonn souls r on ps4 made by bluepoint would looks similar as on ps5, gt7 looks very similar to gt sportDemon's Souls is a early PS3 game that was never a technical powerhouse even back in the ps3 days.Sekiro,Dark Souls and Bloodborne wereade by From Software while the Demon Souls remake was made by Bluepoint,can't just throw comparisons of the remake with those other games
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That's good and bad at the same time.Only PS5 isn't a surprise but it's cool to have a confirmation.
2021 is a good news too. Still hope for first half but it isn't bother me if it's second half.
Nonsense: comparing Demon's Souls graphics with Dark Souls 3, and porting that idea with Gran Turismo 7 it's just simply too farfetched.. Comparing Gran Turismo Sport with the 7th is something like comparing Spiderman on PS4 with Spiderman Remastered on PS5. Ah, keep in mind that it's still on development! Criticising its visual when a game, where we don't even know at what stage of development is at, it's unfair.demon souls remake comparing to sekiro, dark souls 3 or bloodborne looks laughable better so it not weird age, its polyphony
I don't know... I think that, considering you straight up lied about GT Sport twice and bailed when called on it, on balance your opinion of the game is one that can be rejected out of hand.That's good and bad at the same time.
Good because it allows Polyphony to take full advantage of the PS5 and bad because it's the first time Polyphony has skipped 1 GT per console cycle.
Actually 2, since GTSport is not a proper GT game.
Nonsense: comparing Demon's Souls graphics with Dark Souls 3, and porting that idea with Gran Turismo 7 it's just simply too farfetched.. Comparing Gran Turismo Sport with the 7th is something like comparing Spiderman on PS4 with Spiderman Remastered on PS5. Ah, keep in mind that it's still on development! Criticising its visual when a game, where we don't even know at what stage of development is at, it's unfair.
Bottom line, wait 'till more images show up, and not rejected images from mid 2020. Although the car painting being reflected on the tarmac looks marvelously impressive...
Same thoughts...I have no doubts gt7 will look fantastic the thought of full raytracing and dynamic time of day itself is already a big jump.
Maybe graphical updates will become easier to do so PD can keep updating one game instead of pumping out gt8 and etc to show major improvements.
don't agree that is nonsense but lets be spiderman miles morales on ps5 vs spiderman on ps4, it's crossgen but difference in fidelity mode(to be honest game looks great in this mode) is much more profound than apparently not crossgen gt7 vs gt sportNonsense: comparing Demon's Souls graphics with Dark Souls 3, and porting that idea with Gran Turismo 7 it's just simply too farfetched.. Comparing Gran Turismo Sport with the 7th is something like comparing Spiderman on PS4 with Spiderman Remastered on PS5. Ah, keep in mind that it's still on development! Criticising its visual when a game, where we don't even know at what stage of development is at, it's unfair.
Bottom line, wait 'till more images show up, and not rejected images from mid 2020. Although the car painting being reflected on the tarmac looks marvelously impressive...
Who cares if it's crossgen or not lol, that means that no developer can make a new game from the roots of its predecessor? That's the most likely situation for Gran Turismo 7, being developed from Gran Turismo Sport, hell, Gran Turismo Sport is just a prologue from the 7, since before its announcement, everyone, even Polyphony itself, said that their new game would be Gran Turismo 7. And do i have to remind you again that we aren't seeing the final product? Why jumping out to conclusions so quickly when we have a game that's gonna be released probably next year? In spite of that, I can agree that Spiderman Miles Morales on PS5 and on PS4 really has differences, but then again, those game are released, Gran Turismo 7 isn't.don't agree that is nonsense but lets be spiderman miles morales on ps5 vs spiderman on ps4, it's crossgen but difference in fidelity mode(to be honest game looks great in this mode) is much more profound than apparently not crossgen gt7 vs gt sport
So, considering there literally was a GT4 Prologue before GT4, and also a GT5 Prologue before GT5, why isn't GT Sport 'just' called GT7 Prologue?Who cares if it's crossgen or not lol, that means that no developer can make a new game from the roots of its predecessor? That's the most likely situation for Gran Turismo 7, being developed from Gran Turismo Sport, hell, Gran Turismo Sport is just a prologue from the 7, since before its announcement, everyone, even Polyphony itself, said that their new game would be Gran Turismo 7. And do i have to remind you again that we aren't seeing the final product? Why jumping out to conclusions so quickly when we have a game that's gonna be released probably next year? In spite of that, I can agree that Spiderman Miles Morales on PS5 and on PS4 really has differences, but then again, those game are released, Gran Turismo 7 isn't.
Because they felt like it? why would Polyphony say "We're working on GT7." back in 2014, and then announce Gran Turismo Sport instead of the oh-so-longed-for "Gran Turismo 7", can you explain it to me that? I still think that Gran Turismo Sport was something, an idea of what was to come to the future of the series, to keep developing the real Gran Turismo 7 on the shadows, and no one can change my opinion.So, considering there literally was a GT4 Prologue before GT4, and also a GT5 Prologue before GT5, why isn't GT Sport 'just' called GT7 Prologue?
2021 if your luckySo basically GT7 will be out in a year from now if we were to read between the lines. Yawn, what else is new?
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Hmm, I think, had the FIA not approached PD and convinced them to get into esports in the first place, it would've been called GT7 Prologue, then. But that's just me. -shrug-So, considering there literally was a GT4 Prologue before GT4, and also a GT5 Prologue before GT5, why isn't GT Sport 'just' called GT7 Prologue?
That was only 6 months after GT6 release.Hmm, I think, had the FIA not approached PD and convinced them to get into esports in the first place, it would've been called GT7 Prologue, then. But that's just me. -shrug-
Because following your established numerical order while 'naming' your next future project in an interview, just as your latest game is being released, would seem quite logical and natural?Because they felt like it? why would Polyphony say "We're working on GT7." back in 2014, and then announce Gran Turismo Sport instead of the oh-so-longed-for "Gran Turismo 7", can you explain it to me that? I still think that Gran Turismo Sport was something, an idea of what was to come to the future of the series, to keep developing the real Gran Turismo 7 on the shadows, and no one can change my opinion.