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do you guys watch real racing, seriously?
i dont wanna anger anyone, or you mojo. but rule #1 it happens all over the world on all tracks around the world.
a racer will use every possible inch of a track, obiously they dont put 2 in the grass on purpose to improve their times...
but if you can use more width of the track say using the cobblestones behind the rumbles, you can carry more speed into the corner its as simple as that, i see every single racer in the world do it.
I agree on both parts, Mojo's #2 and #3 and most of your's. I like the idea of only being able to submit laps or races where you have kept your car on the actual racing surface at all times, like real life drivers would do.
That is true, real life racers use up just about every single inch of the racing circuit that they are able to that helps them and does not upset the car or what the race organizer says they are allowed to race on. Most real life rumble strips are better to actually stay off of or use some of it to help you out some. Smaller rumbles are better to run over since they don't effect your car at all. Example, 1990 monza and jerez F1 race's driven by Senna.
Monza, getting up on those rumbles = disaster, jumping or driving completely to the very edge utterly upsets the chasis. 90 Jerez, nice small and smoother rumble strips = you can use every single inch of the race track up to the grass since those rumble strips have little to no unsetteling effect to your cars suspension.
Video of Senna driving both tracks with the same car,
www.3rdgenracerX.net/90monzajerez.wmv
*****video is uploading to my server, in a short while it will be active****
For me, I see the track layouts as anything that is made of asphault, concrete or bricks that is next to the paved race track for a few feet or so of extra run off room. Honestly I don't see the parking lot sized run off areas as part of the track along with grasscrete, IMO those places should be restricted to at least keeping 2 tires on the rumble strips like we did the other week during the Deep Forest race on the turn just after T2. No real life race orginization would allow the racers to cut those two corners so badly like they possibly can be cut in GT4.
I've seen the DTM, big Truck racing series, and Nascar and many other racing orginizations put tire barriers up on the apex's of such corners to prevent people from short cutting the actual racing curcit to go faster and make things easier. I like that alot since we should be racing on the actual circuit layouts, not racing on safety run off areas just because its quicker or easier to do. Steve Matchet mentioned this as well during the Spanish GP second Practice on Speed. He dislikes that as well since many corners have kept getting artificially altered from their original layout to allow people to go further and further off the actual race track because the car is capable of riding up to those areas while gaining more speed.
original picture:
http://www6.bayarea.net/~jimbob/pictures/sears_russ_roslewski.jpg
Heres an example of what I think would be wrong, even though the area you would use is pavement its not the correct track layout.
The yellow parts are areas that you could use to gain a much better advantage and completely cut a section of the actual track layout out. Now the green is the correct racing line with the tire barriers set up to prevent people from cutting the corner more and more. I'm glad PD put up a concrete barrier to prevent us from cutting the course there
PD's messed up quite a bit on many of the rumbles strips in GT4 IMO. You should be affected quite a bit from jumping over those kerbs on Sarthe to get to the apex safety run off areas thats a car width and a half in width. It would be a complete non issue if the rumble strips from Fuji 80's and 90's version was used as the Sarthe rumble strips, and many of the other rumble strips in GT4 that has no actual effect on your cars physics. AS we all know from week 2 you can't jump over those type of rumble strips"Fuji's" to make full use of the entire track surface that may be beyond for safety reasons. You'd spin out just from climbing over the kerb let alone from the landing after the kerbs.
time for me to get my tail in gear. Gotta get a decent time done for this weeks WRS race.
just NOW getting to the race.
