New TT & DT #28

[valhalla76]

I slowly start to think that I can't actually drive. I'm the complete opposite. It never took me as long to get gold for any prior time trial (I still haven't, mind you). Not even the last wet one quite a few people seemed to have found difficult, it only took a few laps to get used to the car in the wet and there it was. The 600PP one I managed to gold first lap out in my Gallardo. Now I'd already been at it for a good hour, and all I could manage so far was a 1:14.901. The funny thing is that I've been up by more than a second at the last time point, and then I just can't bring it home through the last corner. I wonder whether I'm simply too impatient for this, or whether I just can't drive.

It's not you, it's the game. A lot of this gold lap times are most likely put in place with idea of using a wheel. I think the game was designed around using a wheel more so than using a DS3.

Look at the video of Kaz testing the Nurburgring in the video of him racing the Lexus in GT TV. Also the must use of a wheel in the last stages of all GT Academy competitions.

I'm not saying I dislike the game but rather people using a DS3 maybe at a disadvantage over wheel users.

 

[mattmflok]

the 86 TT was fun, i did a 1'13"811 with a bone stock car, lets see how will it get on if i had it all setup later.

the rome TT was a bit challenging, but the fastest time so far is a 1'12"5XX with an 07 GTR, the car had so much mods that i can barely recall them

 

[Mac K]

1:12.672 on the GT 86 TT, not bad if I do say so myself.. The leader is running a racing exhaust or something and obviously he has its power limited quite a bit..

 

[Hermanvongerman]

Yeah going to revisit this tonight after work, managed a 1:12:043 after a few laps, got gold first lap out, then proceeded to try and better myself without touching the car...yes using a wheel, and yes do believe that peeps using a ds3 are at a disadvantage, you need a wheel and pedals to be able to handle the vehicles with precision, especially when using comfort anything tyres for TT.
So tuning and more laps tonight...just because...

 

[Jakob79]

managaed to lap rome circuit in 1:12.840 (pos 1410th) in the McLaren F1 '94 detuned to 475 BHP to fit in the requiements. gona fine tune it tomorow and give it another run

 

[Obsidian-2]

It's not you, it's the game. A lot of this gold lap times are most likely put in place with idea of using a wheel. I think the game was designed around using a wheel more so than using a DS3.

Look at the video of Kaz testing the Nurburgring in the video of him racing the Lexus in GT TV. Also the must use of a wheel in the last stages of all GT Academy competitions.

I'm not saying I dislike the game but rather people using a DS3 maybe at a disadvantage over wheel users.

I disagree. I think the game was designed to be DS3 friendly to suit the vast majority of players who use controllers. Plus not all TT's have benefited wheel users ... for example, the Madrid Mini TT was dominated by DS3 users ... the top 5, 9 of the top 10 and probably 80-90% of the top 250. No advantage to wheel users there. It all balances out.

 

[JohnBM01]

Now, when I did the Rome Reverse trial, I think my Ferrari F430 Scuderia was mostly maxed out. However, it isn't like I've had every upgrade installed. I think my F430 Scuderia was between 580 and 595 Performance Points. I usually just get the best-available car in my collection at the highest level of PP. I sometimes select the most capable car that may give me the best chance to win the Seasonal based on PP and the car's abilities. I didn't tone down anything on my Ferrari.

Both Time Trials are completely doable.

 

[doctorrg]

I disagree. I think the game was designed to be DS3 friendly to suit the vast majority of players who use controllers. Plus not all TT's have benefited wheel users ... for example, the Madrid Mini TT was dominated by DS3 users ... the top 5, 9 of the top 10 and probably 80-90% of the top 250. No advantage to wheel users there. It all balances out.

You sure it balances out, or was that TT the exception to the rule? Regardless, I'm a DS3 user, and I've done the majority of time trials, and the Toyota 86 GT TT by far took me the longest to gold. I just did another quick session before, and luckily, it didn't take me all that long this time to post a 1:14.611, but that's it for me, I'm not even going to bother to do any better. I can't remember any other time trial where it took me over an hour to get gold, though maybe it's been too long and I've simply forgotten.

 

[smrtb0mb]

Nice to see a bit of variety in the 600pp leaderboard top 100... besides the NSX LM Road car and Nissan Road car I see some GT-R SpecVs, the Black edition, Audi R8 4.2 and a ZZII.

 

[CodeRedR51]

1:12.672 on the GT 86 TT, not bad if I do say so myself.. The leader is running a racing exhaust or something and obviously he has its power limited quite a bit..

Yeah, PD allowing that to happen is complete BS.

Myself, 1:11.941 with a bone stock car. Done the correct way.

 

[elric718]

PD should raise the % that you are allowed to have your engine tuned down.

No reason for it to be less than 75% unless to get a car into an event that really does not belong.

 

[XPOWER180]

I normaly don't bother with the drift trials by virtue of being rubbish at drifting! But after using the GT'86 for the time trial and thoroughly enjoying it i surprised myself on both drift trials. I decided to stick with the Toyota for both events and got gold straight away at Madrid and silver after 3 attempts at SS route 7. Also it was the 1st time i'd bothered to use the GT'86 and i now get a feeling it'll be a regular choice for me!

 

[Giulietta73]

Am I the only one who gets a game freeze when my best lap ghost car crosses the line in the Toyota 86 time trial at Tsukuba? There were no problems in my first session but after I have come back to the event and loaded my ghost car data, my PS3 crashes when the ghost car finishes the first lap in front of me. Anyone else having this problem? Would be nice if someone could recreate this scenario in their game. I don't have this problem in the other 600PP time trial at Rome Reverse.

For me the game pauses - or stutters when I cross the finish line but it doesn't completely freeze.
Try turning the ghost car off. (Used to be the up button on DS3s)

 

[rumblina]

I managed a 1:13:191 on Tsukuba which felt about as good as I could do with the car. I will have to buy a new one as I had to detune it a heap more than I had hoped which hurt it I think. Managing to hold onto a sub-2000 place for Rome, although when I first did it I placed 231 out of approx 9000

As above, I get a very brief pause (not enough to hurt the next lap) but not a lock-up/freeze.

 

[iLex]

Toyota 86 still cannot win any settings tips please thanks

Although settings might help some, my tip would be to increase your knowledge of the track and car first. The Toyota GT86 is very balanced and drives beautifully in stock form, even on CH tyres.

First of all I would start by looking at replays of the top 10 drivers with throttle and brake input showing. Look at their braking points, lines they take and throttle going out of corners. Compare this with your own replays and see where you can improve. There will probably be a few eye-openers in those replays

If this doesn't help enough you can get a bit more cientific:
Take note of one of the top driver's sector times. You won't get near them probably, but it gives an idea of the breakdown of the final time.
By comparing your sector times with the top, you can see which sectors need work.
If for example you are 20% over their sector times in the first 2 sectors, then 40% slower on the third, it is clear that the third needs more attention.
(You need to calculate the difference in percentages as the sectors are all different. So, being 2 seconds slower on a sector of 30 seconds is different from being 2 seconds slower on a sector of 40seconds).
Then go back to looking at driving lines and throttle/break points and input and see what you can do to improve your time.

Hope this helps. Good luck!

 

[gaunty1984]

This TT is all about knowing the correct line round Tsukuba. Once you have spent some time doing laps, it's really very easy to get gold.

I golded on the first lap, having never driven the 86 GT before, fully stock and no oil change / settings changes. I think I got about 1'13.7xx or something. I definitely left a lot of time out on the track though. I reckon a 1'12 or possibly a bit below is doable for me with a DS3.

Good luck to those who are struggling. You will get there!

 

[eclipsee]

Myself, 1:11.941 with a bone stock car. Done the correct way.

Any way of doing TT's if done within the rules is correct, not just yours.

 

[Lorenzo1201]

Any way of doing TT's if done within the rules is correct, not just yours.

I 👍 you, but if you suggest us the best way (setting) to make a good time with 86 GT...is welcome

 

[siuk]

Eclipsee number 1 for me!!!

 

[TSracing]

It's not you, it's the game. A lot of this gold lap times are most likely put in place with idea of using a wheel. I think the game was designed around using a wheel more so than using a DS3.

Look at the video of Kaz testing the Nurburgring in the video of him racing the Lexus in GT TV. Also the must use of a wheel in the last stages of all GT Academy competitions.

I'm not saying I dislike the game but rather people using a DS3 maybe at a disadvantage over wheel users.

1.
Its not the game. Currently the person with the fastest time use a DS3. So does two of the others in top 10.
Most hardcore time trial people are hardcore car-sim fans.
The average hardcore car-sim fans will use a wheel. And the majority of the hardcore time trial people will probably use wheel.
So it would be natural to see the majority of people in say, top 250 using a wheel.
Atleast that is what I think. But still we see people with DS3 in the top and currently on 1. pace. So I have a hard time seeing that they are at a disadvantage.
(not talking about super high PP cars here. x2010 etc..)

2.
The rules does not say anything against maxing out the car, and downtuning so that you get a massive amount of torque and constant max HP.
Should be easy for everyone to achieve gold then... If you use a stock car u have about 406pp.
If you use a "torqe tuned", u will get plenty more, and that makes a difference.
A 600pp event would not be that easy if u used a 570pp car...

 

[SlyckTires]

Never liked tsukuba much, so I gilded the tt with a bone stock 86, then tuned it as much as I could get away with and knocked about a second and a half off. But that was without a spoiler, so I might have another go with one later.

 

[gaunty1984]

Never liked tsukuba much, so I gilded the tt with a bone stock 86, then tuned it as much as I could get away with and knocked about a second and a half off. But that was without a spoiler, so I might have another go with one later.

A lot of people on here seem to dislike Tsukuba. Personally, I like it a lot, though I have driven on it heavily since GT4 days.

What sort of settings did you tweek to knock 1.5 seconds off? I will probably have a play around with some tonight.

 

[Wiggalowile]

Never liked tsukuba much, so I gilded the tt with a bone stock 86, then tuned it as much as I could get away with and knocked about a second and a half off. But that was without a spoiler, so I might have another go with one later.

Same story although I do quiet like Tsukuba, aspecially because it's so short, when you make a mistake it's not a long wait for the retry.

Tried it at first with the "stock" version even without oil change but kept missing out by a few thousands of a second, loosing time on different places every round.

slapped on all the extra's + spoiler and tuned the hp down, two laps later I got about two seconds off.

Oh and with the pad

 

[AnPrionsaBeag]

Comfort hard on a sports car is just plain dumb.

Quite the opposite, really. You have to know what you're doing and give just what the car can take. It's great fun and a challenge. Sadly though, I golded the event on my first lap and I'm certainly not the greatest driver around.

 

[gaunty1984]

quite the opposite, really. You have to know what you're doing and give just what the car can take. It's great fun and a challenge. Sadly though, i golded the event on my first lap and i'm certainly not the greatest driver around.

+1. Me either.

 

[StevenDunn99]

It's not you, it's the game. A lot of this gold lap times are most likely put in place with idea of using a wheel.

I also disagree and I only use a DS3 - golded both of the current two on my first lap and they were not clean laps.

 

[Lambob]

I kept trying to get below 1:14:00 for gold, only to realize after I decided to quit, that I did get gold, for the time was 1:14:65, meeting expectations. My LCD TV is 1st gen, fuzzy in corners. Bone stock, with reduced brake bias in front down to 3. I know I am losing many split-seconds all over the place, need practice with this car, but I am very happy at it's handling on comfort hards, unlike every other event this game threw at us in the past with CH tires. (Top gear Elise, SLS , etc) G25 wheel user, with lots of weak deadzone in center, either my wheel is old, or programming is out of whack. Eyeing a T500RS sale.

I really need to start driving without any ABS, I hear turns are much more forgiving without it on.

 

[marceliusss]

Anyone has a good setup for the audi r8 4.2, 600pp? Been able to get 1:12,623 so far

 

[Apophis_2029]

Atm i'm on place 66 at the Toyota 86 GT '12 drift event in Rom. And 1st german.
Woooohoooo Ringdigidingdingding ... 17506 points.

 

[CodeRedR51]

Although settings might help some, my tip would be to increase your knowledge of the track and car first. The Toyota GT86 is very balanced and drives beautifully in stock form, even on CH tyres.

Totally disagree. This car on comfort hards is an understeering / snap oversteer monster. Surely takes some patience to get it to do what you want.

Any way of doing TT's if done within the rules is correct, not just yours.

Call it what you want, it's cheating to me. PD put it as 197hp, surely they want people to use a bone stock car. They probably should have given us the car to use like the GT Academy trials.

Do what you want, I find comfort in knowing I did mine 100% legit.