New Year Holiday Challenge: Nürburgring GP/F 10 Lap Survival Race

[Donkerslag]

I have done this one several times now and noticed that, when I drive the HSV with inters, round 6 is the most slippery. I don't know if this is due to the water or the tyre wear (in my case around 5). For me is a pit stop at the end of round 5 for a new set of inters the best way to win this one. Round 6 is seconds faster with new tyre..

 

[UltimateLurker]

I have done this one several times now and noticed that, when I drive the HSV with inters, round 6 is the most slippery. I don't know if this is due to the water or the tyre wear (in my case around 5). For me is a pit stop at the end of round 5 for a new set of inters the best way to win this one. Round 6 is seconds faster with new tyre..

I have found the same to be true. I pit on lap 5 as well, and Lap 6 with the new RI tires is always the hardest.

 

[sircarltonlotus]

In my opinion, arguably the best event on gt6 even with SRF. Done it several times, and at 20+ minutes a pop, this shows I'm having lots of fun. Stock tunes seem much more stable when the tracks at its wettest. Really hope endurance races are added with these track settings. It would be soo much better than the gt5 endurance experience

 

[HB Jones]

I have attempted this race three time with the same results...all with different cars/tires.
I pit at lap five for fuel/tires and, when I leave the pits, I have absolutely no steering and power...I'm lucky to get above 30mph. everything is normal during the first five laps.
Never had this happen in all the time I have been playing.
I'm going to give it one more try and if the same thing happens, I'm throwing in the towel.

 

[Vegard]

I have attempted this race three time with the same results...all with different cars/tires.
I pit at lap five for fuel/tires and, when I leave the pits, I have absolutely no steering and power...I'm lucky to get above 30mph. everything is normal during the first five laps.
Never had this happen in all the time I have been playing.
I'm going to give it one more try and if the same thing happens, I'm throwing in the towel.

I think that's just the first few hundred yards or so. It's supposed to mimic the drama of going out on cold tyres, I think.
Anyway, stay on the racing line and you should be fine after the first corner.

Inters or full wets are required for the middle part of the race as surface water is very high and grip reduction seems to be set to real.

 

[HB Jones]

I tried doing a full lap. Same results. No steering input. I can only creep around the track.
I'll give it another go. I have tried full wets, RI and RS tires...no change.
Thanks

 

[MSZ]

I have attempted this race three time with the same results...all with different cars/tires.
I pit at lap five for fuel/tires and, when I leave the pits, I have absolutely no steering and power...I'm lucky to get above 30mph. everything is normal during the first five laps.
Never had this happen in all the time I have been playing.
I'm going to give it one more try and if the same thing happens, I'm throwing in the towel.

Just use the Toyota TS and be done with it. easy win and loads of prize cash.

 

[Stoop Solo]

In order to secure the fluorescent paint (yes! Bright pink brake calipers, here I come!), I ran the ol' 2J to victory using intermediates with one change just before halfway and no extra gas. It was fairly comfortable going until that last lap... Ooh PD, you cheeky scallywags, turning the lights off like that.

"alright. Tires are fairly worn at the front but I have a comfortable lead, I don't have to push too hard. Early braking, not too hard, smooth 'round the cornerrrr.... goood. Er, where's the track gone? Where's the ****ING TRACK GONE?! I can't see anything! OH GOD IT'S DARK AND I HAVE NO LIGHTS AND I CAN'T SEE ANYTHING AND I STILL HAVE A LAP TO FINISH ETC ETC". But somehow through memory and concentration and an occasionally faintly visible close white line, I gingerly guided the giant vacuum cleaner to the chequered flag. Well played, PD. Wasn't expecting that last twist.

It's nice to see PD mixing it up a bit with this batch of seasonals. Quite refreshing. And thanks for the Jag and Stratos. Now I'm going to go through my other race cars and throw some at this challenge. Some folks mentioned the wonderful Furai a few posts ago; think I'll be wheeling that out next.

In closing, if I had and raced an actual 2J, I would find a way to fit some bloody lights to it.

 

[UnshavenYapper]

Tried this event first time last night, with different cars. allways ending near last place.

Took a look at the first few pages of this thread and tryed the HSV anniv. It was a walk in the park only using IM tyres
Pitted at the end of lap 5 and finished allmost 30secs ahead of 2nd place. front tyres was completely gone when i finish tho.

 

[skeagracing]

You're right about the second part. That's why I changed to inters for the complete race, which gave me very easy wins.
But you should be able to (carefully) use slicks on a modestly moist track. Did that i.r.l. a lot driving my kart and not having rain tires. It is difficult but fun.
Lived it as a passenger in a Nissan GTR on slicks in Zolder too. Same thing: difficult but fun.
But in this case, taking a corner at very low speed and spin a few times, that is NOT normal. As I said before: it was not realistic on the Ring 24' races and is NOT realistic in this race. The realism lies in-between these two extremes.

Truth!

 

[Vegard]

I tried doing a full lap. Same results. No steering input. I can only creep around the track.
I'll give it another go. I have tried full wets, RI and RS tires...no change.
Thanks

I'm using this tune for the Toyota TS030.
Intermediates, stop on lap 7 for new intermediates and a splash of fuel.

There is a bit of a traction problem when the track is at its wettest but you've got plenty of time to spare.
Just beware that the water indicator shows the level of water on the racing line (or so it seems) so avoid going too far off line.

Good luck.

 

[Hassi2012]

The XANAVI NISMO GT-R '03 is also a very reliable car for this race. If you want the tune setting, let me know

Could I have the tune setting please? Or could you post the tune setting with every a-spec event you do?

 

[cjr3559]

Tried several strategies using the HSV 15th Anniv and the best finish has been 9th. I managed a race where I ran the entire thing on inters and led most of the race but the tires fell apart in the last two laps.

My most recent attempt was the closest yet. Started on RM for the first couple laps until it started to rain. I think I was about 10th when I pitted for inters. I made some good progress on the field and reached 2nd place about 15 secs behind going into lap 9 but overdrove the final backstraight and lost it before the final chicane. Finished 10th.

Though I've had many fails I'm feeling good about winning this Seasonal. Just a matter of time.

 

[Mr P]

I have attempted this race three time with the same results...all with different cars/tires.
I pit at lap five for fuel/tires and, when I leave the pits, I have absolutely no steering and power...I'm lucky to get above 30mph. everything is normal during the first five laps.
Never had this happen in all the time I have been playing.
I'm going to give it one more try and if the same thing happens, I'm throwing in the towel.

As mentioned before... Tip toe out of the pitts and the grip returns after the first few turns, pitt exit is very slippy for sure but it's gone after a careful ride to T1 👍

Good luck with it

 

[GTsail]

I've already run and won this race with quite a few cars using IM tires throughout, so I thought I would try something different. I checked my garage for an older model race car and decided to give the Chaparral 2D '67 a try. After a quick trip to the auto parts store for a full set of race and rain tires, I set off to the Nurburgring G/P track for some track time in the rain.

I decide to start the race on RS tires to see if I can run some fast laps at the start, before the track gets too wet.

Lap # 1 goes pretty well though my Chaparral 2D's gearing is too tall, so it bogs down in 1st gear coming out of all the hairpins. Lap # 1 takes me 1:56.124 which is pretty fast for a slightly scruffy lap while I get used to driving the Chaparral 2D.

The track is quite wet, so I decide to pit at the end of lap # 2 for a set of IM tires. Lap # 2 takes me 1:58.363. The Chaparral doesn't use that much fuel, so there is no need to add any fuel at the pit stop, so some time is saved.

Lap # 3 takes me 2:32.280 and I'm still in 16th place.

Lap # 4 takes me 2:02.347 and I climb thru the field up to 11th place.

Lap # 5 takes me 2:08.827 and I climb up to 6th place. Its raining hard now so my lap time lengthens but the AI are all struggling.

Lap # 6 takes me 2:14.056 and I climb thru the field up into 2nd place, since its still raining hard and all the AI have started to pit.

Lap # 7 takes me 2:09.872 and I take over 1st place when the leader pits for tires.

Lap # 8 takes me 1:59.856 since the rain has stopped and I can push the Chaparral again.

Lap # 9 takes me 2:00.899

Lap # 10 takes me 2:01.667 which gives me an easy race win by 31.3 seconds over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic.

Race time was 21.32.007

Easy win with the Chaparral 2D!
The Chaparral 2D is pretty gentle on its tires, so the IM tires were still in great shape by the end of the race. I imagine that you could run the race without any pit-stops at all if you started on IM tires.

See you on the track!
GTsail

 

[Donkerslag]

Another thing about this race is that a mistake at the beginning is harder or even impossible to overcome than a mistake at the end. My overall time with the HSV are constant around 21:45. Once I crashed into the back of nr15 in the fast s-curve (because he always take that one too fast) and cost me 8 seconds extra. Not a big deal I thought because normally I am more than 8 sec ahead at the end. But I hardly reached the top ten that race. It looks that those ai cars go a lot faster if you not overtake them at the beginning.. Once overtaken they stay (close) behind waiting for a mistake. finally the darker it gets the slower they go and it becomes an easy gold wether you make a small mistake or not..

Chaparral 2D that's great idea!...

 

[Fuzzi0n]

Another thing about this race is that a mistake at the beginning is harder or even impossible to overcome than a mistake at the end. My overall time with the HSV are constant around 21:45. Once I crashed into the back of nr15 in the fast s-curve (because he always take that one too fast) and cost me 8 seconds extra. Not a big deal I thought because normally I am more than 8 sec ahead at the end. But I hardly reached the top ten that race. It looks that those ai cars go a lot faster if you not overtake them at the beginning.. Once overtaken they stay (close) behind waiting for a mistake. finally the darker it gets the slower they go and it becomes an easy gold wether you make a small mistake or not..

Chaparral 2D that's great idea!...

The weather plays a big factor too. Depending on when the rain stops and how wet the track is when it does will change the AI cars tyre wear and strategy. The two cars to watch for usually are the Z and the Calsonic GT-R. If it stays really wet late into the race the Z is usually on wets and only pits once, if it doesn't he'll wear the tyres out before the end and drive really slowly and the Calsonic GT-R will be right up front because it will also only pit once and run inters right to the end of the race. Generally you need to run 1:56's or lower in the dry to be completely safe with any sort of mistake or accident, 1:58's and decent wet laps should do it otherwise.

 

[Seb Weasel]

Hi!
Just had a frustrating evening and wanted to share that experience in case some fellow GTPlanet readers made the same mistake.
I played and beat that seasonal last week when it got released. TS030, and in my memory fairly easy. I remembered pitting lap 7, and keeping IM all race. My curse came from the fact that I now know thay race track stays at 0% from lap 7 on. Back then on my first try I left the pits with fresh IM since I didn't know what to expect.
Tonight I tried again, only changing for RS at lap 7 thinking the track would stay at 0%. It did, but I failed and failed and failed again! Then tried back with IM full race: easy win.
Yes RS are better if you stick 100% to the racing line. The second you leave it, say for overtaking, you're driving on ice. I guess it's realistic, but very frustrating! In real life the fastest car wouldn't start last so overtaking wouldn't be such a pb.
All in all my advice: stick to IM. It's the best to stay in control during the overtaking moves throughout the race.
For this event, the assist might be turned on but it doesn't really matter: it's all about tire strategy and sticking to the racing line.

Also, PD a blue flag would be great if we have more endurance races, which most of us would love. Nothing like being rammed by a car you just laped when you are in the lead!!!

Happy holidays and thanks for all the good posts!

 

[GT5 Level 41]

After failing with the NSX Base model I used the Toyota TS030. Gold! The thing I don't get is I ran it on a second profile with better times and exact weather and pit strategy and ended up 11th.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

For anyone having trouble with this event. Use the Mazda Furai for an easy win. Start on Inters and you can complete this race without pitting. At around 30% track wetness, start short-shifting to help with wheelspin in the lower gears. If you don't drive like a complete idiot, abusing the car and tires, you should have no problem winning the race without pitting. You should have at least 1/4 tank of fuel left and tires somewhere around a hair under half worn. With my less than stellar wet driving skills, I have no problem winning by at least 20 seconds with plenty of fuel and tires left. You don't even really need a tune for the car, just adjust the trans and zero out toe and camber and you're good to go. If you insist on a tune, I believe @nowcontrol has posted one earlier in the thread.

Happy Holidays.

 

[Konnichiwa]

The TC is just bs here!! Even tho I set it to 1, ist just amazingly stupid how it works!

When you like spin, you need around 10sec that you start to roll, then there's the acceleration stage, where you need another 10secs to get in motion with decent speed, while the car is constantly pulling you to the left-right....

Still won by 17/18 secs, 1.51 best lap!

 

[YuRiPa]

The TC is just bs here!! Even tho I set it to 1, ist just amazingly stupid how it works!

When you like spin, you need around 10sec that you start to roll, then there's the acceleration stage, where you need another 10secs to get in motion with decent speed, while the car is constantly pulling you to the left-right....

Still won by 17/18 secs, 1.51 best lap!

TC is not stupid here, works like it should. But if you are off the race line on racing softs or something, not on inters or full wets, of course acceleration will take a while. Go to the "dry" racing line and you'll have no problem at all accelerating. At least I didn't have any trouble, and I've driven numerous cars in this seasonal.

The weather plays a big factor too. Depending on when the rain stops and how wet the track is when it does will change the AI cars tyre wear and strategy. The two cars to watch for usually are the Z and the Calsonic GT-R. If it stays really wet late into the race the Z is usually on wets and only pits once, if it doesn't he'll wear the tyres out before the end and drive really slowly and the Calsonic GT-R will be right up front because it will also only pit once and run inters right to the end of the race. Generally you need to run 1:56's or lower in the dry to be completely safe with any sort of mistake or accident, 1:58's and decent wet laps should do it otherwise.

Yes, the rain is a big factor. Just two cars to add to watch out for, they sometimes finish way up front too, these are the Woodone GTR and the Yellowhat GTR. For people who are chasing the Nismo Z who is way in front, don't worry about it. Just make sure you can catch the Yellowhat, since he will definitely overtake the Nismo Z and win like this many times. If the Z makes no mistakes, it is actually easier, since if he wears out his tyres, he will block the others so you can catch up more easily. If he makes mistakes and after his pit-stop comes back on track behind the Calsonic Impul GTR, forget it, the Calsonic is crazily fast in the last few laps and you'll need very good laps to beat him (1:58 won't do it, since he is doing the same). In my opinion, the longer it rains the easier it gets, since in the rain I'm much faster than the AI and can easily catch the Z and still make a safe second pit-stop. When it dries early, it's harder, for me at least.

 

[GTsail]

Continuing on with my Chaparral 2D '67 that I mention above in post # 225, I decided to run the race without any pit-stops.

I start the race with IM tires.

Lap # 1 takes me 2:00.370 and I end the lap 27.3 seconds behind the race leader.

Lap # 2 takes me 1:59.705 and I end the lap 31.1 seconds behind the race leading Nissan Calsonic GTR

Lap # 3 takes me 2:01.042 and I end the lap 29.5 seconds behind the race leading Nissan Calsonic GTR

Lap # 4 takes me 2:03.362 and I end the lap 5.6 seconds behind the race leader.

Lap # 5 takes me 2:09.857 and I end the lap with a 2.4 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Xanavi

Lap # 6 takes me 2:06.894 and I end the lap with a 16.0 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic

Lap # 7 takes me 2:05.370 and I end the lap with a 22.4 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic

Lap # 8 takes me 2:01.137 and I end the lap with a 27.0 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic. The track is now pretty dry so my speed is increasing.

Lap # 9 takes me 2:04.415 and I end the lap with a 26.8 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic. The track is now dry but my speed starts to fall off due to the age of my IM tires. My tires are getting worn so I can't push as hard as I was previously.

Lap # 10 takes me 2:08.504 and I end the lap with a 24.354 second lead over the 2nd place Nissan Calsonic who has taken back some time on me over the last lap. At the end of the race, both my front tires and rear tires have worn down to 2/3.

Race Time was a smoking 21:07.989

2nd...Nissan Calsonic GTR...ran a 21:32.3 race
3rd...Nissan WoodOne........ran a 21.33.2 race
4th...Honda Raybrig NSX
5th...Honda Keihin NSX
6th...Nissan YellowHat
7th...Nissan Xanavi
8th...Honda Weider

Good fun!
The eventual 2nd place car (the Nissan Calsonic GTR) was driven by Philippe who put in a 1:55.940 lap on lap # 2 which vaulted him into the lead (the Nissan Calsonic had started the race in 2nd place behind the Nissan Xanavi). He and the 3rd place Nissan WoodOne were both on RS tires at the start of the race, so they were very fast at this point.

See you on the track!
GTsail

 

[Appie]

This was one of the most exciting Seasonals that i have in a while. WHat i did was start on the Soft tyre and on lap 3 i went to the inters and then just to be sure i went to back on soft at lap 8 and i won with a few sec from #2. Had a blast.

Used the HSV btw.

 

[YuRiPa]

Woohoo, finally won this race with my 2000 Raybrig NSX. Was a really close race. Started with a 1:56.002 (fastest lap of the race) followed by a 1:58. Then on lap 3 I pitted (was in front of the Denso Dunlop SC430 which was good) and on inters I made up good time. By lap 5 I was only 14 seconds behind the Nismo Z, on lap 6 only 5-6 seconds, while I had a lead on the Calsonic Impul GTR of around 22 seconds. At the start of lap 7 I took the lead from the Yellowhat GTR and I quickly built a good lead. At lap 8 I pitted with a lead of 28 seconds. I came out just behind the Nismo Z, Calsonic Impul GTR and the Yellowhat GTR (was like 2.5 secs behind the Z) and after some trying decided to wait for a chance at the Schumacher S, where they often go wide. They did so this time, but while trying to evade the GTRs I crashed into the Calsonic GTR, so got a 6 second penalty after which the Weider and Keihin HSVs also passed me and I was 7 seconds behind the Z, who was still leading the Yellowhat GTR. Halfway through the final lap I passed the Calsonic GTR and the Z and after the Schumacher S I got the Keihin HSV who was in second. At the back straight I was only half a second behind the leading Yellowhat GTR and at the chicane I could pass him. Was a bit tricky, since the Supra and Eneos SC430 back markers were there too, so had to go around them too. In the end I won with a margin of something like 1 second. This race wouldn't have been so close if I hadn't crashed into the Calsonic GTR, bit of a pity that the Yellowhat was on the left side of the track and the Calsonic on the right side, so couldn't really go anywhere, while I was being very cautious.

 

[GTP_CargoRatt]

The TC is just bs here!! Even tho I set it to 1, ist just amazingly stupid how it works!

When you like spin, you need around 10sec that you start to roll, then there's the acceleration stage, where you need another 10secs to get in motion with decent speed, while the car is constantly pulling you to the left-right....

Still won by 17/18 secs, 1.51 best lap!

I don't use TC in these races. Trying short shifting if you are having problems with wheel spin like I suggested in my earlier post. It is far more effective than TC.

 

[Konnichiwa]

I don't use TC in these races. Trying short shifting if you are having problems with wheel spin like I suggested in my earlier post. It is far more effective than TC.

Agree I did that already but I'm just wondering about the TC and how it work.

 

[StirlingMoose]

For my second attempt I took @GTP_CargoRatt's 👍 advice and bought myself a Furai, left it stock except for the power limiter and did the whole race on one set of inters and one tank of fuel. Won by 28 seconds with plenty of rubber and fuel left. I took it fairly gently, keeping out of trouble and short-shifting throughout.

 

[MADDAD]

New Year Holiday Challenge: Nürburgring GP/F 10 Lap Survival Race

Image courtesy of JogoAsobi .. Many Thanks.


Period of Availability: 17/12/2014 - 08/01/2015 .. 03:00 GMT/UTC

Event Conditions:
Type: Single Race
Start Procedure: Rolling Start
Duration: 10 Laps

Entry Requirements:
PP: 600 or less
Tyres: Racing Soft or less .. Min: Racing Hard
Categories: Racing Car
Nitrous: Cannot be Fitted

Prizes:
Gold: Cr.550,000
Silver: Cr.275,000
Bronze: Cr.220,000

Gift(s):
Gold: GT FLUORESCENCE 009-W paint chip.

Track Conditions:
Track: Nürburgring GP/F
Track Length: 3.20 miles / 5150 m
Time of day: **:**
Temp: **ºc
Precipitation: 0%

Typical Opponents:
Nissan XANAVI NISMO Z '06
Nissan Calsonic IMPUL GT-R '08
Nissan WOODONE ADVAN Clarion GT-R '08

Tunes:
Tunes for the events can be found at one of these links:

GTPlanet Tuning Database - maintained by Jordan

GT6 Tune Directory - maintained by XS

Praiano GT6 Tunes - by praiano63

Motor City Tunes GT6 - by Motor City Hami

Team-Shmo GT6 tuning - by shmogt

Exeter GT Tuning - by shaunm80

Clueless, over The Hill Outlaws - by CyKosis1973

Little Duckpond Under The Mountain - Thorin Cain

TUNERXANDE1959 & GT6/STREET CAR/RACE CAR - @TUNERXANDE1959

Dante's gt6 tuning garage - by lldantell

Bowtie's Speed Shop - by Bowtie-muscle

The Devil's Playground - by demonchilde

MGO Seasonal Tuning - by mgo

If you would like your garage to be added to this list, please message me with details.

 

[MADDAD]

Sorry for the rubbish pic. Used IM for two 5 lap stints. The tune here works good. Try to keep to the dryer racing line mid race laps 4 to 7