Newbie Needs Some Help

[Rxblade123]

I'm like a complete newb to drifting, so I have some questions on it. I use the dualshock 2 controller btw. I've tried doing the e brake drift and when I enter a left turn I quickly press O to start braking. When the car starts to turn sideways I immediately let go and accelerate while make a left turn. I usually spin out or the drift stops before I get to the end of the turn. From that description of what I'm doing can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to improve?

On some of the guides, I read that you should use throttle to control the drift or something like that , but on the controller how do you do that? Like tap it or press it? And can someone try to describe what they do for the feint drift?

TIA

 

[nk4e]

I'm like a complete newb to drifting, so I have some questions on it. I use the dualshock 2 controller btw. I've tried doing the e brake drift and when I enter a left turn I quickly press O to start braking. When the car starts to turn sideways I immediately let go and accelerate while make a left turn. I usually spin out or the drift stops before I get to the end of the turn. From that description of what I'm doing can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to improve?

Do you counter steer?

On some of the guides, I read that you should use throttle to control the drift or something like that , but on the controller how do you do that? Like tap it or press it?

TIA

The pressure of your finger, time with get you that

And can someone try to describe what they do for the feint drift?

You swing the car out then use the weight of the car as you turn the other way. Basicly you use the car's weight to break the traction from the Rear wheels

 

[mwoodski]

I'm like a complete newb to drifting, so I have some questions on it. I use the dualshock 2 controller btw. I've tried doing the e brake drift and when I enter a left turn I quickly press O to start braking. When the car starts to turn sideways I immediately let go and accelerate while make a left turn. I usually spin out or the drift stops before I get to the end of the turn. From that description of what I'm doing can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to improve?

On some of the guides, I read that you should use throttle to control the drift or something like that , but on the controller how do you do that? Like tap it or press it? And can someone try to describe what they do for the feint drift?

TIA

Relocate your E-Brake button to R1, and use the thumbsticks for accel/brake and turning, makes things more smooth, and you get some more steering angle. Oh yeah, way better 'pedal' modulation.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm like a complete newb to drifting, so I have some questions on it. I use the dualshock 2 controller btw. I've tried doing the e brake drift and when I enter a left turn I quickly press O to start braking. When the car starts to turn sideways I immediately let go and accelerate while make a left turn. I usually spin out or the drift stops before I get to the end of the turn. From that description of what I'm doing can somebody tell me what I'm doing wrong and what I can do to improve?

On some of the guides, I read that you should use throttle to control the drift or something like that , but on the controller how do you do that? Like tap it or press it? And can someone try to describe what they do for the feint drift?

TIA

Hope fullly you're using a front-drive car...you shouldn't need to use the e-brake to drift in rear or 4WD cars at all, instead, you'll only need a combination of normal braking and throttle. Using the e-brake in a non-FWD will kill your engine...and usually you'll want to keep your revs up if you're trying to make a drift last.

In front-drives, you should use the e-brake SPARINGLY. A blip here and a blip there will do if your'e going fast. If you're going thru a turn more slowly, you can hold it longer. Also as FireEmblem62 said, relocating the e-brake to one of the L or R buttons makes getting on it much easier. You can even e-brake while you're still hitting the gas to get thru corners quicker during races...altho this takes a bit of finesse.

Anyways, since you're new to drifting you'll need alot of patience and practice. You're not gonna get it overnite, trust me. It requires knowing exactly how your car is gonna respond in turns. Pretty soon you'll be able to predict what your car will do and that's when you know you're getting good.

Instead of trying full on drifts thru the entire corner, i would try getting partial drifts down first, and gradually make them longer.

 

[Rxblade123]

I use a mazda rx-7 infiniti III. The only reason I use the e-brake is because that is like the only way I can intentionally make my car go sideways. Other than that I sometimes go sideways while racing, but I usually straighten up immediately or spin out.

 

[tekong]

I use a mazda rx-7 infiniti III. The only reason I use the e-brake is because that is like the only way I can intentionally make my car go sideways. Other than that I sometimes go sideways while racing, but I usually straighten up immediately or spin out.

since u are sing fc, dload the vid from my threads (apricot hill) coz i'm including the cam with steering indicator, throttle and brakes. then try it yourself. get the seting for the car from the setting depot and adjust i to suite our style. explore the forum and take your time and effort of reading for better understanding the art of drifting.

u don't need e-brake for this car because it one of those car that very easily to have going sideways. Check your brake setting. adjust it so that your rear brake is 2 or 3 times higher than the front.

also, check your tyre. use sim tyre. if its a bit hard for the first time, use different set of tyre for your front and rear. use a gripper tyre(sports/slick super hard) for the front and normal tyre for the rear. this tyre set surely came in handy for better manuveur during the cornering. and last advice, keep peractising. get the feel of how your car reaction on different situation. good luck.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I use a mazda rx-7 infiniti III. The only reason I use the e-brake is because that is like the only way I can intentionally make my car go sideways. Other than that I sometimes go sideways while racing, but I usually straighten up immediately or spin out.

It is NOT the only way, trust me. It is, however, the most extreme way to get sideways. But you're new. LIke Tekong says, a combination of tires, suspension settings, and brake settings is the way to start off.

Set your rear brakes higher than your front. Since you're new, i would ignore the racing suspension for now. It's too complicated. Instead, get a semi-racing suspension, jack up the rear higher than the front, and try also using higher damper settings back there. Set your camber higher than 2.0°...this will help the rear swing out when you're getting on the gas. When you approach corners, get in the habit of using small amounts of “feint motion” (in a left hand corner, for instance, jab the steering RIGHT and then instantly turn left...this will make your car's body sway and the rear will be more prone to swinging out.)

These are all suggestions. They worked for me but you may have mixed results, and like Tekong says, visit that settings depot so you can try different ideas.

 

[nk4e]

LIke Tekong says, a combination of tires, suspension settings, and brake settings is the way to start off.

I don't know bout that but its not a good way to start off because that is imbalance, its like putting Higrip tires on the front and really low grip tires in the back, sure the traction will break but all that grip in the front will make it not be controlled smoothly.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

You're using the handbrake?! What are you, crazy?! No offence. But I find it quite easy to make a controlled drift with regular settings and regular brake and acceleration in any car with over 150 hp. Suspension settings might help, but since Im a poseur who only knows basic mechanics and many models model history, and companies, but really doesnt know much about engine or suspension tuning, I cant help there. Good luck!

 

[nk4e]

You're using the handbrake?! What are you, crazy?! No offence. But I find it quite easy to make a controlled drift with regular settings and regular brake and acceleration in any car with over 150 hp. Suspension settings might help, but since Im a poseur who only knows basic mechanics and many models model history, and companies, but really doesnt know much about engine or suspension tuning, I cant help there. Good luck!

Well, drifting is about balance, there are several techniques that require some power but alot of them has to do with the motion of the car to break the traction on the rear tires.

 

[Rogue Ssv]

Yes very ttrue, but Im not good enough to do it without something at least as fast as a Miata. Mite be able to in a cappucino tho. (the weird coffee-colored Suzuki? I think)
What am I doing here anyway? I dont drift. Hell I dont even have any games besides NFSUG2 for PC and it sucks cause of my :censored:ing slow 🤬 PC!

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I don't know bout that but its not a good way to start off because that is imbalance, its like putting Higrip tires on the front and really low grip tires in the back, sure the traction will break but all that grip in the front will make it not be controlled smoothly.

Hey...buddy...that's why i called it a ‘suggestion’. If RXBlade is having trouble getting his car to break loose, wouldn't it make sense for some imbalance to be in order?

 

[nk4e]

Hey...buddy...that's why i called it a ‘suggestion’. If RXBlade is having trouble getting his car to break loose, wouldn't it make sense for some imbalance to be in order?

I know its just a suggestion and I just put my opinion.

 

[Mind SV]

IMHO i think no mismatching tyres is nessasary in GT3

In GT4, it is onlly with 4wd cars.

 

[tekong]

I don't know bout that but its not a good way to start off because that is imbalance, its like putting Higrip tires on the front and really low grip tires in the back, sure the traction will break but all that grip in the front will make it not be controlled smoothly.

that is exactly my idea. let's rxblade have the control of his car on the front traction during cornering and get the 'feel' of his car behavior before using the more enjoyable sim tyre. maybe i should add a bit for my comment. those tyre setting is better when using a more high power car for a newbie like him because if u ask him to use sim tyre straight away, he might be frustrated and later on thrown away his 'career' coz i've seen one example.
so to rxblade, take your time and keep practising. like dehlpic reason sayz, that the best way to do.

 

[tekong]

IMHO i think no mismatching tyres is nessasary in GT3

In GT4, it is onlly with 4wd cars.

i'm quite disagree about that coz i'm using drfiting not only for exhibition but during the races. i using different compound of tyre for my altezza on altezza challenge at the amateur level. it is damn quite competitve and the com car are very aggressive. this is the only solution that i have right now to have more fun during the battle. using sim tyre for both fornt and rear kept me totally spin when being bump up by the other cars while using gripper tyre making it less enjoyable.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

Well RXBlade, as you can see we have several opinions and even some strong disagreements here! How are you doing so far? Like i said you won't get it overnite...but if you persist you eventually WILL get good. Hope this helps.

 

[Rxblade123]

I haven't been able to play yet since I have to study for my finals, but on Friday, summer starts so I will be playing GT3 a lot heh. I think I'll try all the same kind of tires first and then start switching things around. I'm not even at the stage where I can tell what to modify so that the car will suit the way I drive. So I don't want to mess around with things until I get a feel for it.

By the way tekong I saw the video and it was awesome! I hope some day I will be able to do that.

 

[nk4e]

I haven't been able to play yet since I have to study for my finals, but on Friday, summer starts so I will be playing GT3 a lot heh. I think I'll try all the same kind of tires first and then start switching things around. I'm not even at the stage where I can tell what to modify so that the car will suit the way I drive. So I don't want to mess around with things until I get a feel for it.

By the way tekong I saw the video and it was awesome! I hope some day I will be able to do that.

Use the Drift settings depot
the main tires to use is the Simulations, it will take at least a whole day to get use to them.
Rx7 settings

 

[rsmithdrift]

Just get a stock car in arcade mode, put it in "drift" physics model instead of "racing" and learn that way. That's what I did. Once you get good at that go into sim mode and put sim tires on a fully modded car and see how much you still have to learn. If it's too much for you (it will be) put sports tires back on it and practice practice practice.......then drop down to normall tires and do more practicing........after a long time.....alot of fun, and alot of frustration you'll finally be able to handle the sim tires......then after a while you can be like me and fully link drift every track in the game.

I can go to complex string and turn the car sideways immediately and keep a perfect racing line sideways through every turn and down every straightaway for 2-3 laps before I finally make a mistake and straighten out, spin, or get off into the dirt. I mean to tell you I am at a 10 degree or more angle to the raod from start line to finish line too. If I straighten out, even on a straightaway I get mad and have to try it again.

Yes, it takes alot of patience and determination, but trust me, it's worth it.

 

[tekong]

Just get a stock car in arcade mode, put it in "drift" physics model instead of "racing" and learn that way. That's what I did. Once you get good at that go into sim mode and put sim tires on a fully modded car and see how much you still have to learn. If it's too much for you (it will be) put sports tires back on it and practice practice practice.......then drop down to normall tires and do more practicing........after a long time.....alot of fun, and alot of frustration you'll finally be able to handle the sim tires......then after a while you can be like me and fully link drift every track in the game.

i'm quite agree with that. like Parnelli Bone had said, u won't do it overnite. kep on practising. don't play with the tyre yet until u get yourself familiar with all the basic technique, your car behaviour and what the hell all those setting effects during your driving. so, play well, keep practising and enjoy! send us a vid of your progress soon.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I consider myself lucky in a way, cuz i learned to drift by accident driving a Viper at Grand Valley one day. This was in GT1 over 2 years ago. I had read all that stuff in the Reference Manual about feint motion, drifting, and traction circles and thought “okay, that sounds cool but it's for when i get good someday.”

Well within 3 months i was regularly taking turns sideways,...or slideways I'm not saying i was an instant drift guru, but my early experiences got my fascinated. I never got too obsessed with it, though...i just drift for fun if i happen to get a comfortable lead on the AI.