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There is an incredible number of brand new Nissans driving around. Really not sure how they aren’t making money. The only thing they have that doesn’t sell in reasonable numbers is the 400Z but I also haven’t seen a fun commercial of that car in like a year.What will survive longer? Nissan's financial solvency or a Nissan CVT.
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The Japanese brand is in the midst of trying to find a new anchor investor to get through the next year
I 100% agree, I'm a Gen-X'er and there ain't too many of us in that small window of no-more daycare costs and not paying for college (assuming thats even a thing anymore???). At any rate, the price of other new sports cars and the increased values in cars like an NSX, to me, provide more value to buy an Emira.
And the Millenials who want a sporty car are likely buying ones from the 90s/00s since that's what they had on their bedroom walls. Why would I spend $50k on a Z when I could buy a 300ZX or even import a Skyline? I mean, I can get a really good-condition R32 GT-R for less than $40k. That sound infinitely cooler than spending $10k more on a whatever Nissan decided to make with the Z.
I've decided lately that I've got mostly zero interest in newer sports cars. The older ones offered what I want and can be easily modified with modern QOL improvements like Carplay. My 987 is a 2007 and is perfectly good. Somebody else has already taken the depreciation hit. That said, if I could've gotten this for less...
This is what I keep running into. I've gone to drive both an ND2 MX5 and a first gen 86 (in the latter case, 3 different times!) fully expecting them to tempt me out of my 986. They should be better, right? But neither one of them could match what is pretty much the lowest Porsche on the totem pole, in terms of character and desirability. For me the 86 gets a lot closer as the controls and dynamics are better than the MX5 but damn did that engine lose me. (I actually found the Fiat 500 Abarth to have more character than either the ND or 86 back when they were all still available new) I haven't tried a new GR86/BRZ, but I suspect the drab interior would be disappointing. The S-FR is a great concept, but we'll see if it ever makes it to reality (I love driving it in GT7). Lastly there is the kind of moonshot Mazda Iconic SP and questionably legitimate MR2 rumors. Toyota should put the Yaris GR drivetrain into something rear wheel drive. Or I could just get something older, like an F Type or 981. As far as the Z...it's too heavy, it's too expensive, and it's too uninspiring for it to even get on the list of cars I'm interested in. If only I could get ahold of a Honda S660...I've decided lately that I've got mostly zero interest in newer sports cars. The older ones offered what I want and can be easily modified with modern QOL improvements like Carplay. My 987 is a 2007 and is perfectly good. Somebody else has already taken the depreciation hit. That said, if I could've gotten this for less...
...I may have pulled the trigger. I say "less" because it's simply worth less. The 987's values have begun appreciating, whereas new sports cars like this will always depreciate for at least ten years. I'd lose my ass, and despite the car being newer it's actually less car for the money. If either of these cars were made and cost $25-30k I would've strongly considered it. Currently, the Miata is too expensive for what I want (a hardtop) and the GR86 already starts at that upper limit and has much less character or charisma than a used Porsche.
I understand that. Then, watch the used car market. If the Z are tanking, it’ll seem like a bargain to have a newer car that has the classic Z look with up to date features with good power and the fun in finding ways to make it lighter.
The media isn't blowing out of proportion what Nissan itself has reported:
Context for what .6% "Sales year over year are up" means is that across the entire Nissan portfolio (because Infiniti is burning to the ground as thoroughly as Jaguar is) in the United States they've sold 4,000 more cars in YTD Q3. Next year they are discontinuing two models that contributed 45,000 of those sales (one of which amusingly has sold 4000 more this year than last year), on top of how Nissan (as Joey noted) is so moribund outside of the US that there has been talk of Honda buying them out for the past six months (for whatever the hell Honda would get out of that). But hooray Nissan is better than Stallantis, I guess!
Crazy how (except the Kicks and the yet to launch Murano) they've introduced an entire set of all new SUV across their model lineup since COVID and all of them coincidentally have the same greenhouses and hardpoints as the cars they are replacing that dated back to the Obama (and sometimes Bush) administration.
Yep, outside of the USA is worse. Globally its sales are down ~4% and its profits down 85% to Q2, and it has announced measures to save £2bn (including selling 10% of Mitsubishi*) while slashing its profits forecast by 70%.
That car was one of many "what if they had built that" that really make me shake my head. This was another that they teased us with a while ago that never saw the light of day:I've decided lately that I've got mostly zero interest in newer sports cars. The older ones offered what I want and can be easily modified with modern QOL improvements like Carplay. My 987 is a 2007 and is perfectly good. Somebody else has already taken the depreciation hit. That said, if I could've gotten this for less...
