No more Miatas! Give us these!

[Ferrariman0212]

i agree, they say 1000+ they mean 900+ its sorta like saying we have diversity in legos but have 400 diffrent shades of red and 4 blues

 

[Famine]

I agree with ya completely there Famine; with as much as Kaz tweets and what-not, I just want to know why he keeps evading the question. If you can tell us it was due to licensing purposes, I'd understand.

There's almost eleven hundred car models in Gran Turismo 5 and almost two million car models ever. That's 1,998,900 "why isn't x in Gran Turismo?".

It's nothing to do with "evading the question". The question is banal and repetitive. The car's not in the game because they didn't get a model, didn't get a licence, didn't want it or didn't know about it.

It's the fact that they fail to listen and/or understand that irritates the hell out of me. It's been like this since GT1 and it has been the same each release.

Has it? That rather suggests you haven't been paying attention to the games.

It might surprise you to learn that the proportion of Japanese cars in Gran Turismo has fallen with each main GT release. The proportion of European cars in Gran Turismo has increased with each main GT release. The proportion of North American cars in Gran Turismo has increased with each main GT release (with the exception of GT3, where the proportion fell by 0.1% compared to GT2). The proportion of cars from other countries (Australia, Korea DR) has increased with each main GT release.

GT2 had car manufacturers never seen in any other racing game before or since. GT5 does too.

Like I said, Forza has it right; why can't Gran Turismo?

Forza has it right if you think it does. The car list satisfies you if the car list satisfies you .

I don't want to leave because I literally grew up on the GT series and I love GT5 but with the variety and quality Forza brings to the table, you just have to wonder.

Back on the subject of surprises, if you were a basic game player and plonked your GT4 disc in the drive, you'd get a whole slew of Nissan Skylines. It became a running joke - one that hasn't yet gone away (despite GT4 having 670 cars that weren't Skylines - more than any other game in history's entire car list and 50-odd Skylines). If you were a basic game player and plonked your FM3 disc in the drive, you'd actually get more Porsche 911 variants as a proportion of the total car list than the GT4 player got Skylines. And a smaller car list (by far). For some reason, this never became a running joke. Perhaps the people who like 911s liked it? I can't stand them.

GT5 has more variety than any driving game in history. Shrinking the car list down so that each chassis/engine/drivetrain was a single model (so the complete list of MX-5s becomes five cars, the complete list of S2000s becomes two cars and so on), there are 704 cars in GT5. Nothing else comes close but if it's missing cars you want and includes cars you don't want, of course it'll be less satisfying than a smaller, less varied car list with more cars you want on it!

At least Forza is attempting to get these licenses together, and have apparently even worked out something with Porsch and EA. Kaz just flat out said "Nope."

He has never said "Nope". He has been questioned repeatedly about Porsche and has always said he hopes to have them in the series. Always.

Meanwhile, they're including manufacturers other games don't even know exist. Surely you can't have missed the gaming community's fascination with Ruf GmBH? They're popping up everywhere now and can be traced back to their first appearance, through Forza, Driver and the Getaway to... Gran Turismo 2.

I just hope that in the future, there will be a good sack of classic cars to come out and by that, I'm hoping for a pack of at least 8-10. I've got my money right here PD, it's burning a hole in my pocket! Be it $9.99 or $19.99, I don't even care at this point because I want to see something different.

If they can't get it, they can't get it. They got the Blastolene Special - by accident - when tapping Jay Leno up for a car they could only source from him to model. They got one of the two Miura Bertone Prototypes ever made and the only one that still exists. They got the Jaguar XJ13. They got the Nissan GT-R, the Ferrari California and the Subaru Impreza GH on the day the rest of the world learned that the cars existed - at their unveiling at the Tokyo Motor Show.

They go to incredible lengths to find and licence cars that most people don't even know about, but they can't have it all. Yes, some of the cars they choose to find, licence and model are a bit unusual and hard to explain - the 35 Eunos/Mazda Roadsters not being anywhere amongst them, since it's only really seven cars - but to come to the conclusion that they're deliberately or negligently foregoing other cars that you happen to like more is... stunning.

 

[dhandeh]

GT5 has more variety than any driving game in history. Shrinking the car list down so that each chassis/engine/drivetrain was a single model (so the complete list of MX-5s becomes five cars, the complete list of S2000s becomes two cars and so on), there are 704 cars in GT5. Nothing else comes close but if it's missing cars you want and includes cars you don't want, of course it'll be less satisfying than a smaller, less varied car list with more cars you want on it!

Quoted for truth. That is a lot of cars, no matter which way you want to put a spin on it. You can't please everyone, but you can certainly have a good go.

 

[Davidies]

MORE MIATAS!!! I love 'em. Not my favorite, but certainly no hating.

 

[1241Penguin]

They don't need to make room - there's plenty of space left on even a single-layer BluRay... They're not in because they couldn't be included:

I meant that if PD wanted to include classic cars, they would use their time wisely so that they would have enough time left to add the classic cars.

 

[Griffith500]

I meant that if PD wanted to include classic cars, they would use their time wisely so that they would have enough time left to add the classic cars.

Or perhaps there are other considerations, apart from "wise" use of time, that precluded their inclusion. In fact, that's exactly what Famine has been saying.

 

[1241Penguin]

Or perhaps there are other considerations, apart from "wise" use of time, that precluded their inclusion. In fact, that's exactly what Famine has been saying.

Ah, okay. I understand what he's saying now. 👍