No one wants to fix the Safety Rating System?

[mthomas_95]

Post some replays, most people don't know they're the ones causing half the incidents they're complaining about. You can avoid accidents you know...

• If you're concerned someone is going to ram you because of late braking, get off the racing line and let them overshoot you. Sure you will loose 0.5 of a second, but then you don't have create a gtplanet account and complain about it.
• Do you think someone is going to push you wide in a corner because you're side by side and you have the outside line? Then use your brakes and let them pass, chances are if they were counting on your car to help make the corner they will fly wide and you get your spot back.

You don't have to race at 100% the entire race, just concede a spot every now and then and you will clear up 90% of your accidents, get to SR S, and basically stop worrying about it.

I think probably most players sadly have this mindset that 100% flatout is the only way to race, they're too busy desperately trying to pass/defend at every corner to notice the laptime dropping off a cliff. I rarely try an outside pass on a FF Gr.4 car for example because it will naturally understeer on exit and risk sending me into the gravel, yet time and time again I see people try it and get annoyed at being 'pushed off'.

FIA race today at Maggiore I had a French guy punt me off coming out the pits and would block on the back straight. Bided my time, let the aggressive car behind me through, and he predictably divebombed the French driver and I nipped through easily on the inside whilst they visited the outer wall of the last corner. It's all about picking and choosing your battles.

 

[JulesDennis]

I guess we disagree on what racing is then. Sometimes conceding a risky position is worth it. If I'm faster I'll gain it back cleanly. If I'm not faster and they maintain it, they earned it.

Explain to me what you concider "risky position".
When I keep my line and defend in a legit way,giving people room when needed,I am racing.
When I am letting people go just because of fear they might race me in a dirty manner,I am not racing.
In some situations people need to consider yes.But not because of fear that the other guy is a "dirty" driver but because their move or position dectates that.

There are race incidents sometimes where no one is really at fault, there is risk in racing hard. The first few laps in this clip are very chaotic with plenty of contact, but you can see for the most part people make room for racing lines and back out of corners if they think they're beat (the first hairpin goes 3 wide and someone gets taken out).

Yes there are situations that incidents happen that are called "racing incidents".This is either because one guy is an situation that cannot undo and creates a problem or when drivers put their cars in that kind of situation that there is no turning back or they make a big mistake.
Example this weekend Liqui-Moly Bathurst 12 Hour that red-flagged the race.
There is a big difference between "racing incidents" and wreckless driving.
In the video you posted there is actually some examples of wreckless driving,even if is unintentional.Example:when a guy is a full car length in front of another and the 2nd car pretty much put that car out of the track by accelerating into that car and not giving up in a position lost,thats not just a "racing incident".Its bad racing.

 

[DaltonLSXV8]

I've had races in sport mode which make me love the game even more, and I've had some which make me doubt I will ever touch sport mode again.

Take today for example, had a one make race with the Viper on Lago Maggiore, one guy spent the entire race oversteering out of every corner, blocking and pushing anyone who tries to pass him wide, qualified 2nd and because of him I went down to 7th, final lap, manage to get up to 3rd again and he was the next one to pass (don't ask me how he managed to stay in 2nd with his ridiculous driving skills), I tried to pass him from the outside and on corner exit, he somehow managed to oversteer opposite of the corner exit meaning his car's nose bashed my side. Guess who ended up with his SR down and a 5 second penalty? That's right, not him. Eventually stayed in 3rd but only got 4th because of the penalty I got from his bashing.

I haven't really played much sport mode but I can now understand all the people criticizing the penalty system. It makes no sense.

 

[Robben]

I've had races in sport mode which make me love the game even more, and I've had some which make me doubt I will ever touch sport mode again.

Take today for example, had a one make race with the Viper on Lago Maggiore, one guy spent the entire race oversteering out of every corner, blocking and pushing anyone who tries to pass him wide, qualified 2nd and because of him I went down to 7th, final lap, manage to get up to 3rd again and he was the next one to pass (don't ask me how he managed to stay in 2nd with his ridiculous driving skills), I tried to pass him from the outside and on corner exit, he somehow managed to oversteer opposite of the corner exit meaning his car's nose bashed my side. Guess who ended up with his SR down and a 5 second penalty? That's right, not him. Eventually stayed in 3rd but only got 4th because of the penalty I got from his bashing.

I haven't really played much sport mode but I can now understand all the people criticizing the penalty system. It makes no sense.

What DR and SR do you have?

 

[vvise]

Explain to me what you concider "risky position".

being on the outside of any driver i don't know or trust in a corner.
going side by side in a chicane or through high-speed corners.

I will give up the battle and try again if I'm in those positions if I feel like an accidental mistake from that driver will result in a crash. Intentional or not.

 

[JulesDennis]

being on the outside of any driver i don't know or trust in a corner.
going side by side in a chicane or through high-speed corners.

I will give up the battle and try again if I'm in those positions if I feel like an accidental mistake from that driver will result in a crash. Intentional or not.

With that logic any posible position around another car is a risky position.But I get your point.

 

[vvise]

With that logic any posible position around another car is a risky position.But I get your point.

I trust myself passing on the inside line is safe

 

[PirateAlan8]

Sure it gets it wrong occasionally. But in the long run everything works out ok. If you’re having trouble with the safety rating it’s probably worth looking at your own driving.

 

[Satomiblood]

no, we all love it, it's so great getting punted into the sand trap, getting a penalty, while the punter get's ahead on the track with no penalty. Super fun time!

It's also great when someone crashes/spins out into a wall, only to respawn back on the track with a speed boost so magical that you can't even catch up with them during the remainder of the race.

 

[Latosius]

The SR system is actually ok, it’s the offset between what’s good and bad that’s the issue. I’m really struggling to get out of SR B whilst racing properly because of crazy incidents that cost me SR after 8 laps of perfect driving... I’m adamant I don’t want to crawl at the back to gain it back

 

[shaunus]

For example the slightest nudge towards another driver from my end is an instant SR decrease, yet i can get a train ran on me at a braking point and the culprits receive no decrease whatsoever, let alone a penalty. Is this how it works? Criminalize the victims?

The system is the same for everyone, so your description CANNOT be correct. We see false patterns.

The system is flawed.. it fails to detect the actual culprit often, and also some people know how to game the system (if you run someone wide or tip them into a spin you can get away with it), but if a 'nudge' gets you a penalty then the same nudge gets one for other people too.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I trust myself passing on the inside line is safe

Not really. Yesterday I had the inside line, car on the outside over steered and veered to the inside on corner exit while I was giving him half the road on corner exit. He bounced off the back of my car, into the grass, I get SR down and 5 sec penalty, lost 4 places in that tight GR.1 race.

Never mind all the times people simply ram into you at the apex while going into a corner side by side, sometimes resulting into a shortcut penalty next to SR down.

Or maybe you mean it's safe as in when you get hit you're still on the road afterwards