North Korea on Western Civilisation Propaganda

[Danoff]

Coming back I watched the whole thing, whilst the first 10 mins suck you in with things that make a lot of sense

Watched the first 10 minutes, wasn't sucked in. It's all slight of hand and out of context. If you really think about it, none of it makes sense. Put scrutiny to any of the implications in any of the sense in the first 10 minutes and it falls apart. The primary implication in the first 10 minutes is that marketing is done to incentivize/enslave a workforce that is then taxed to fund the war machine used to keep those in power in power. And an example shown is Apple selling an iphone. Yes, some people bought the iphone out of a sense of community or even as a result of marketing. But if you think Apple is functioning as a branch of the government to help enslave the population and keep them working, that makes zero sense whatsoever (and would be extreeeeemely difficult to hide). The bottom line is that whatever the public is buying, they want. Whether they have their priorities right or not is up for debate, but it's their free choice. Influencing that choice is not the same as enslavement... and those are very dangerous concepts to confuse. Enslavement is the threat of force. Influence is merely suggestion. Which would you rather someone did to you? If you can answer (and you should) then you know there is a difference between the two.

Apple is not a branch of the government. They sell a product so unbelievably useful, that increases productivity so much, that companies GIVE them to employees to improve productivity.

None of this is to say that propaganda doesn't exist within the US. Elections are all about propaganda (competing propaganda, something that the eternal blah blah his wonderfulness the president of "socialist" north korea doesn't have). But to view US corporations as an arm of the government is intentionally misleading. They have their own motives.

 

[Exorcet]

Yeah, that's pretty much it. In the west, there's enough time and money for people to focus on things that aren't needs. That to me is much better than the situation in NK. The video said a smart phone was useless, maybe for outright survival, but not for entertainment or just convenience.

Also, the North Korean government is secretly being controlled by the US and it's slave countries.
http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/08/09...dior-purse-despite-nationwide-food-shortages/

but they left that out of the video.

 

[homeforsummer]

Apple is not a branch of the government. They sell a product so unbelievably useful, that increases productivity so much, that companies GIVE them to employees to improve productivity.

There is that. Plus the fact that with all these portable devices, Apple or otherwise, we have greater access to information than anyone else has had in history. We know more about other cultures - North Koreans included - and regardless of the politics under which we live, we're potentially better-informed about pretty much anything than our ancestors were either.

I agree with Omnis too. It's fascinating from a sociological perspective. North Korea is like the world's control test for the workings of a unitary, communist state.