Nos is killing the drag community

[f_399]

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I was fast in GT5, I am in the 3k/tunnel part of GT5 drag.

I was tuning the day gt5 was released, before we could even adjust individual gears before there was transmission flipping/stretching.

I ran nitrous out of curiosity and because it was new. I run with most the top 3k/tunnel tuners and yes it is divided. There are certain groups i tune with nitrous and others without. Either way I get the best of both worlds.

Sure there are noobs but the generalization that people that use nitrous cant tune is wrong. I can go back to my tuning sheet and run competitively with my all motor tune.

 

[THA JABBERWOCKY]

I was fast in GT5, I am in the 3k/tunnel part of GT5 drag.

I was tuning the day gt5 was released, before we could even adjust individual gears before there was transmission flipping/stretching.

I ran nitrous out of curiosity and because it was new. I run with most the top 3k/tunnel tuners and yes it is divided. There are certain groups i tune with nitrous and others without. Either way I get the best of both worlds.

Sure there are noobs but the generalization that people that use nitrous are cant tune is wrong. I can go back to my tuning sheet and run competitively with my all motor tune.

People who know how to tune won't lie about having nitrous because they know they can be competitive with or without it.

Nitrous liers and spammers can't tune a lick. Bottle of nos bulking in back pocket.

 

[f_399]

Its not nitrous that's "killing the drag community", its those people you mentioned. They will be there, with or without nitrous. Just try to pick right lobbys.

This is like the gun argument, guns don't kill, its the people that use them that do. A never ending argument.

 

[Harry6784]

But the other player doesn't drive all that well, so what does that account for? And it would also depend on the cars used, so we'll say the same cars. But my point still stands.

But in circuit racing a skilled driver with a stock car will usually beat a poor driver with a good tune.

Don't think you understand. One car with a good tune/bad driver will win in DRAG RACING against another car with a bad tune/good driver. The inverse is true in circuit racing.

 

[f_399]

Drag racing is mostly about the tune and your internet connection.

 

[Downhill Dino]

Don't think you understand. One car with a good tune/bad driver will win in DRAG RACING against another car with a bad tune/good driver.

100% of the time is what your saying. Proof?

The inverse is true in circuit racing.

There are a lot more factors in circuit racing that creates a wide grey scale then just black and wight.

 

[THA JABBERWOCKY]

Its not nitrous that's "killing the drag community", its those people you mentioned. They will be there, with or without nitrous. Just try to pick right lobbys.

This is like the gun argument, guns don't kill, its the people that use them that do. A never ending argument.

It's both that are killing the community. It's mostly all there is in a lot of drag rooms.

When you finally do find a great room you try to ride it til it fizzles out and then that it.

Sorta like nos

 

[ryzno]

There are a lot more factors in circuit racing that creates a wide grey scale then just black and wight.

Exactly why "traditional" Drag Racing is harder.

I agree with a few posts I read, "Its not the N20 its the liars."
So true, a seasoned vet can easily hear/see it and can whip up a tune on a spur of the moment.
We know how to spot it now, restrict,kik, whatever, do what you do.
Everyone has acsess to it, its not a cheat.
If your to dumb to figure out why/how you lost thats your problem.

 

[Harry6784]

100% of the time is what your saying. Proof?

Like I said, that's usually what happens. Obviously if you're tune is VERY good, and its an auto tune, an intoxicated chimpanzee will be able to beat you with a poor tune no matter how good you are.

 

[mazdaman]

To answer your questions I tesred the theory in transmissions I've raced many great well known circuit guys. My times have been reduced when I did drag trannies in my circuit cars.


Also our findings aren't secret we've posted them such as cars with stock rims made more power than aftermarket ones. I've mentioned it to guys I knew they just laughed and didn't believe me.


Also drag suspension is way more hard than circuit racing because launches can top your speed and in GT6 it can spin you out. Where as if I'm a little of in a circuit suspension I can compensate that with my driving style. Once again these are theories ived proved to myself my lap times back up my theories.

 

[SmokeNrubber]

# goes to circuit racing room, selects fully modded car with very few alterations to its trans and suspension and still remains reasonably competitive with the rest of the field.

# tries the same thing in a drag lobby... Ends up walking home with an extra poop hole.

 

[mazdaman]

# goes to circuit racing room, selects fully modded car with very few alterations to its trans and suspension and still remains reasonably competitive with the rest of the field.

# tries the same thing in a drag lobby... Ends up walking home with an extra poop hole.

Exactly your driving style compensates with the tune.

 

[Austuner]

My advice for ppl dealing with the common big mouth noob who thinks his slammed black ed with nos is unbeatable, simply have a far lower hp car tuned for nos (wrx often gets the job done) and smash them with tree and tune, that shuts em pretty quick when they get they're 🤬 handed to them by a 4 cyl

 

[dr_slump]

Example: I tuned one of the new Shelby mustangs gt500 13-900+ hp, a guy came into my room with a lotus spirit, I ask if he had nos because really who races a gt500 with a lotus, he lied, I treed, he then zooms by and beat me by like 4 cars. Earlier i ran the same cars against a few good tuners and ran strong. I kiked that sob just for lying.

Lotus Spirit? Never heard...

Also, there's a certain Lotus Esprit that destroys your POS of Shelby GT500. But yeah, who races a Lotus versus a GT500... smh.

I'm not sure who's the noob here.

 

[jdiaz092009]

My advice for ppl dealing with the common big mouth noob who thinks his slammed black ed with nos is unbeatable, simply have a far lower hp car tuned for nos (wrx often gets the job done) and smash them with tree and tune, that shuts em pretty quick when they get they're 🤬 handed to them by a 4 cyl

I sure do love those lower hp cars. I know most people tend to tune mid to high hp cars but those slower cars need love too. This whole issue about nos is quite childish, a real pro tuner should know when someone is using it. I know most guys I have raced in gt5 had killer trees. All you really have to look at is if you tree hard and lose by a car in a half or more it could be your tune or someone using NOS. Best thing to do just have someone legit open a room and drag there, I am pretty sure there is a lot of top guys who are on often enough. Once I get gt6 I will have my rooms setup NOS free and let the real tuners bring there skills. People who know me already know I don`t put up with bs and a insta-kik will happen.

 

[michrulejj]

Just reading through this thread. The people that have been dragging in GT for the past 2+ years all agree, N20 is overused and shouldn't be allowed (Just in general, tuning for motor rather than spray). And has anyone else noticed the huge increase in randoms with no GT drag experience blowing up random threads with nonsense? I myself can easily name 5... SO really it all comes down too these guys with no GT drag experience acting like they know everything.

You may carry on about your talk with use about NX

 

[dr_slump]

Just reading through this thread. The people that have been dragging in GT for the past 2+ years all agree, N20 is overused and shouldn't be allowed (Just in general, tuning for motor rather than spray). And has anyone else noticed the huge increase in randoms with no GT drag experience blowing up random threads with nonsense? I myself can easily name 5... SO really it all comes down too these guys with no GT drag experience acting like they know everything.

You may carry on about your talk with use about NX

Hang on:

Dragging for past 2+ years - yes
Agreeing on nitrous being overused - no​

Weird...

 

[michrulejj]

Hang on:

Dragging for past 2+ years - yes
Agreeing on nitrous being overused - no​

Weird...

I just meant in general more veterans agree on mainly tuning for cars without spray then with spray. Not that we are against it but online leaderboard and if we get speed test, would be no spray. Or at least no spray would be more popular with the veterans.

 

[Harry6784]

Eventually everyone will run nos and no nos cars together. But now the game is too early and I still have plenty of cars to tune for motor much less nos. Once we see what cars are good matches for each other then we will start messing with nos. Until then people are only using nos because they couldn't use it in GT5. Same with de-winging cars. Some cars look hideous without a wing but people do it just because they couldn't in GT5.

 

[dr_slump]

I just meant in general more veterans agree on mainly tuning for cars without spray then with spray. Not that we are against it but online leaderboard and if we get speed test, would be no spray. Or at least no spray would be more popular with the veterans.

In GT4 both was done.

 

[KTalloutdrags]

this is like the beginning of gt5 all over again. i will be running specific tunes for spay and no spray because in the end thats what these guys are going to look to. tuning for spray and no spray will just show the diversity of your skills, and in the end make you a better candidate for a drag team.

now what i meant by my first sentence....
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/it-takes-no-skill-to-drag-prove-it.234655/
if i had the game i would happily take a couple circuit racers to our realm and show ya how hard it is. also, still to this day i look up to that man, DLR. 👍 always told it like it is, actually he still does if you catch him around the track.

 

[THA JABBERWOCKY]

Lotus Spirit? Never heard...

Also, there's a certain Lotus Esprit that destroys your POS of Shelby GT500. But yeah, who races a Lotus versus a GT500... smh.

I'm not sure who's the noob here.

Ok so I pronounced a car wrong and why you hatin on the Shelby? Who cares about the pos lotus?

So because I want to tune without nos and pronounced a car wrong I'm a noob?

C'mon doc I thought you was smarter than this...must be someone using your account.

We haven't bumped heads since that tunnel drag about 2 years ago lol.

 

[dr_slump]

Ok so I pronounced a car wrong and why you hatin on the Shelby? Who cares about the pos lotus?

So because I want to tune without nos and pronounced a car wrong I'm a noob?

C'mon doc I thought you was smarter than this...must be someone using your account.

We haven't bumped heads since that tunnel drag about 2 years ago lol.

No, I said that because an Esprit does beat a GT500 with ease.

You pretty much said he only beat you because he used nitrous. He'd have beaten you anyway if he's at least a halfway decent tuner. GT500 doesn't stand a chance.

 

[THA JABBERWOCKY]

No, I said that because an Esprit does beat a GT500 with ease.

You pretty much said he only beat you because he used nitrous. He'd have beaten you anyway if he's at least a halfway decent tuner. GT500 doesn't stand a chance.

I'm pretty sure I know a car has nitrous when its pulling away like a hacked pos.

 

[dr_slump]

I'm pretty sure I know a car has nitrous when its pulling away like a hacked pos.

That's what an Esprit does compared to a GT500. It let's it look like a joke.

It's not just a little faster, it's a 🤬 faster than the GT500.

 

[mazdaman]

Can this thread be closed please its pointless

 

[Master__Shake_]

Oh please.. Comparing Drag & Circuit tunes is pointless. You asking him to run one of your drag tuned cars on 1/4 is just as bad as him challenging your car 2 laps against his track tuned car. Even if your cars did well drag or track, it still doesnt solve any altercations between which kind of racing is "Faster" Just stop with all the stupid his vs. hers malarky.

The difference is you can adapt a drag tune for a circuit race, but can't adapt circuit for drag. Once you understand what provides maximum acceleration, you can dial-down the settings for optimum cornering & handling while still providing superior acceleration out of the corners and pull in the straights. The only advantage the circuit racer will have is intimate track knowledge, which anyone can learn if they have the spare time.

 

[Asheru]

I really need popcorn when entering this thread...
I'm sure many people have said this bit just prohibit the use of the "baby bottle" if you don't like it and get tuning. I personally don't like NOS because it has been brought down by Bambi's who can't tune and lie through their teeth. I even get the ocastional noob trying to drift with NOS -_-

 

[Danny280zxturbo]

You guys talk about nitro like if it was hack? cant wait to get my game in a few more days! I think NOS is cool n there is no reason to hate it! If you spray Ill spray right back G, just like fast & the ferious in every movie!

 

[Asheru]

You guys talk about nitro like if it was hack? cant wait to get my game in a few more days! I think NOS is cool n there is no reason to hate it! If you spray Ill spray right back G, just like fast & the ferious in every movie!

I agree that NOS could be a good thing but it's been used for cheap wins