Nos is killing the drag community

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I would like to see a lot of the regulars from gt5/gtp create a list of tuners with their psn I'd and everyone adds each other.

This way for those who are looking for true tuners to tune against or just drag race will know where to find those who do so
 
When Hydro returns I am considering making the team run no NOS but to tune for it just in case.
 
When Hydro returns I am considering making the team run no NOS but to tune for it just in case.

That's what I'm doing right now, but it's incredibly hard to tune an AWD for both. Most tune for it on launch, and doing so will make the car bog when launching without the bottle. There will have to be a medium tune where you can launch with it and quickshift, that will still allow normal launch without bog. Aside from that, FF & RWD are pretty manageable to tune around it.
 
Quote="c-losk, post: 9084384, member: 169125"]This thread is like listening to my nephews fight and argue among themselves...[/quote]
Lol exactly
 
If everyone uses nitrous then you still have to have a better tune than the other guy to be able to beat him... or have you completely over looked that fact? A well tuned gtr with nitrous will still beat a badly tuned gtr with nitrous...
If the guy racing you lies about running nitrous and it's obvious don't even let it bother you, you know that he cheated so find someone honest to race.
 
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When Hydro returns I am considering making the team run no NOS but to tune for it just in case.

I'll put my 2 cents in on this. I plan to tune for n2o and for no spray. BUT, I will NEVER lie about spraying. If you think I'm spraying. You ask me and I'll be honest with it. ****Once my team comes to light I will enforce this policy strictly.*****

Once again the war is going to start with those of us who are quite refined tuners that have experience In the field and the noobs (no offense) who are going to come in and criticize the way we have run things since the beginning of gt5. We aren't going to change the way we do things. The new guys who challenge our theory's and the way we have run things need the experience before they can come in and really have a statement that's worth something to us. Basically what I'm saying is that before you want to recommend us something understand why we do what we do. Go back to the GT5 forums and read all the testing and ideals we came up with before, and why we stick to them. Make sense?


I hope I came off sounding the way I had hoped and not offended anyone in any way.

Also, addressing the bashing of the drag community for "immaturity" is quite interesting, being as EVERY RACING MODE has it's crowd of people whom have their mischievous ways. But one should not critique an age group based on this, as I am 15 currently and although I like to have my fun and do stupid things, I see men 2x my age doing things that I see as ludacris such as driving backwards for instance.

Lol, I was thinking the same thing
 
if there was no nitrous in GT6 from the first, this would have been so much better because people are arguing and there are equal people on both sides of the arguement. I do not have the game yet, but I personally do not like the change. Change, thats the thing that usually kills an original. I dont think anyone would have been disappointed if there was no nitrous since they wouldnt ever have known about it. The game would have been as good as it always was.
 
Has anyone else noticed the Veyron sucks once the wing deploys?
 
Has anyone else noticed the Veyron sucks once the wing deploys?
I don't think anyones tuned the Veyron to realize that. You should be able to remove it via the parts menu, though. I noticed you could do that with another car that had pop-up wing.
 
It was hard enough finding decent drag rooms in gt5 and gt6 will be even hard. Making reservations on gtp will only be here and there.

During GT5 too many rooms that were in the racing lobbies were for dragging only. It made looking for a real race a pain sometimes when half of all rooms were for 1/4 mile BS. Keep your dragging in Free Run and keep out of our real race lobbies.

I love drag but quitting and buying my g27 wheel to just enjoy offline and online racing may just be my best option.

Smartest thing I've heard all day. Keep it real.
 
Can't we all just get along. Let bygones be bygones. N20 may be annoying but lets not squabble over some drag racing now!
 
NOS was put in the game...give kids an easy way of winning, without any effort of tuning the car.

How much tuning goes into a drag race, really? LSD and Transmission? Compared to track racing it doesn't even come close.
 
During GT5 too many rooms that were in the racing lobbies were for dragging only. It made looking for a real race a pain sometimes when half of all rooms were for 1/4 mile BS. Keep your dragging in Free Run and keep out of our real race lobbies.



Smartest thing I've heard all day. Keep it real.

Well I'm now getting into actual car and lmp track racing with some of the guys over on the race forum.

It's really fun with a wheel. I'm gonna enjoy this game not bang my head over drag.

Gt5 drag racing really pulled me away from the game as a whole. Not this time.

I'm gonna later try my hand at drift tuning, laaaaaaater down the road.
 
How much tuning goes into a drag race, really? LSD and Transmission? Compared to track racing it doesn't even come close.

You'd be surprised, ride heights, spring rates, toe and camber can all make signifant differences. Just getting the optimal spring rates reversed on a Cuda can make a huge difference, up to a full car length at the end of a 1/4 mile. This is gt5 though that I'm referring to.

Incidentally in gt5 LSD made zero difference for straight line drag.
 
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How are the Nitrous systems working in GT6?
Is it just buy a bottle size, choose how much BHP it adds, then spray until it runs out?
How long does the largest bottle last, over a 1/4, full mile, 20 miles?
How does the PP system work for it?
 
How are the Nitrous systems working in GT6?
Is it just buy a bottle size, choose how much BHP it adds, then spray until it runs out?
How long does the largest bottle last, over a 1/4, full mile, 20 miles?
How does the PP system work for it?

I think that's the biggest problem. It's unrealistic. If PD has included drag racing, then there could be drawbacks to using nitrous (like in real life) but since it wont add weight or cause reliability issues, then there is no problem. Mybe they should give you a 50% of blowing up your engine. Also most drag racers use it more for spooling up huge turbos as opposed to just the added oxygen.
 
How much tuning goes into a drag race, really? LSD and Transmission? Compared to track racing it doesn't even come close.
You would be suprised. And how tuning is right now, you run, adjust, run adjust, lose adjust, win continue to adjust.
As I said its not oh try this flip and go yeah im 1 hundred off the record.
Its alot of trial and error.

As far as a circuit tune, driver input can make up for a poor tune, in drag racing its win or lose no 3rd place. No latebraking ,no adjusting driving line ect...

Ill give you a good example last night on 1 car I change settings over 30 times and the car still has more in it.
 
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How much tuning goes into a drag race, really? LSD and Transmission? Compared to track racing it doesn't even come close.
First of all before you shove the rest of your foot in your mouth. Drag racing tuning is actually much harder than circuit. Also I do both and I'm very good at both.


The drag racing transmissions are actually beating circuit guys times I've proved it in gt5. Also with that being said there is a lot that you circuit guys don't know that we drag guys know and discovered. So do us all a favor keep your one minded attention seeking self out of this forum please your input is redundant and invalid.
 
I think that's the biggest problem. It's unrealistic. If PD has included drag racing, then there could be drawbacks to using nitrous (like in real life) but since it wont add weight or cause reliability issues, then there is no problem. Mybe they should give you a 50% of blowing up your engine. Also most drag racers use it more for spooling up huge turbos as opposed to just the added oxygen.

Oh, so it basically just a "cool new features list" feature? That's a bit sad.
There's so much they could have done with this.

From a realism point of view 50% chance of blowing up isn't that realistic, because if set up properly it isn't going to happen. It does if your engine tuning is off, examples: Bad ignition timing, detonation or misfires and nitrous do not mix. But since all engines are more or less in a static state of tune in the game that isn't really a factor. They could have maybe tied it into oil changes to combat that. That would ensure you always needed a fresh engine to ensure your runs were 100% reliable. The more runs you do, the more you risk engine failure.

Another thing that would make it interesting is adding a controller, it could be used for off-boost applications, like you said. That would really add some kick to the tuning aspect. The tuning screen would look something like the screenshot below. That would benefit Drag racers, drifters and even circuit racers in a much more realistic way.

Nitrous can also be used as a cooling feature for forced induction cars. Rather than mixing it with fuel, it can be sprayed onto intercoolers. This would have added another use for it rather than than the simple "push button to go faster" approach.

Of course the additions of some these uses relies on various realistic aspects of engine tuning to be included in the game first and implemented in the correct manner with appropriate consequences.

Oh well. At least the didn't go all out arcade "Stunts earn you boost" mode :lol:


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Well if circuit tuning is so much harder, why don't you bring your tune to a drag room and see how it stacks up. It can't be that hard to beat us, right? We're making fire with sticks and stones, afterall.

Oh please.. Comparing Drag & Circuit tunes is pointless. You asking him to run one of your drag tuned cars on 1/4 is just as bad as him challenging your car 2 laps against his track tuned car. Even if your cars did well drag or track, it still doesnt solve any altercations between which kind of racing is "Faster" Just stop with all the stupid his vs. hers malarky. :rolleyes:
 
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