Nose-Tipping, Rollovers, and 'Broken' Handling of MR Cars: An Analysis of GT6's Center of Gravity
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I don't know, I went with the gt300 base model, and the rear felt awfully light at time. I turned to aero to compensate, which helped hugely, but I couldn't do the gt300 championship with it. Not consistent enough. I gave up and 'downgraded' to the s2000LM race car for them.
I really want to like the car--it's certainly drivable, but not quite what I want to race.
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Sadgt6 is mess and confuse!
Yet another person calling Polyphony lazy. What do you think the developers do all day, huddle in a corner smoking around their fancy ashtray?
These people don't even get to go home at night sometimes, only get let off to shower the day after.
Jesus, get a grip.
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Not that I've driven it in GT6, but in GT5, I found the R8 LMS very easy to drive. I never had any particular problems with any cars. One car I find odd in GT6 is the GTByCitroen Road car, in that when tuned to 800bhp+, anything more than minimal front downforce seemed to make the nose of the car dive towards the inside of a cambered corner (high speed ring for example).
This also proved problematic even on flat tracks. Not sure if this is realistic or not, but when rear downforce was full on all setups I tried, it's frustrating when any front downforce above minimal makes the car extremely difficult to drive.
This also proved problematic even on flat tracks. Not sure if this is realistic or not, but when rear downforce was full on all setups I tried, it's frustrating when any front downforce above minimal makes the car extremely difficult to drive.
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Don't know if this was mentioned but Veyron is bugged too. When fully upgraded, on SSRX when going really fast it suddenly stops steering at high speed at all and swim on the road like a boat. Once it slows down a bit it steers again normally.
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Sounds like a bug involving bottoming-out from downforce.
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Just to add to the list of MR cars that DO work well... Just tried my 15th Anniversary Pagani Huayra. WOW! What a car! Nothing wrong with it...
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You know the brake bias tuning doesn't work, right? That's probably part of the problem.
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/threads/the-brake-balance-setting-is-broken.292788/
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These two pictures are both of AI in a race at Matterhorn. Both the Mustang and Megane did nose stands while braking. The Renault actually almost flipped over!
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Ive seen a couple of a.i.s at the top of the hill of Cote De Azur doing "stopies" as well. Hasn't happened too often though.
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These two pictures are both of AI in a race at Matterhorn. Both the Mustang and Megane did nose stands while braking. The Renault actually almost flipped over!
Invalid argument. You can actually lift of quite high while your going to fast without breaking at that part. Its basically a ramp .
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- boitcon
Not front first though, c'mon
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Yes it is, but it was the AI and in cars that would never catch air over that crest.
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To be fair I think it's fairly easy to catch air over there, still, it definitely isn't the best spot to prove it. For that, you can use the pics of Evos doing the same thing in Tokyo (where there are no big crests and no jumps whatsoever).
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It does not help that the AI slam their brakes on with full force.
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I find it hard to believe the center of gravity for all cars is wrong just because of how basic it is, it's really something that shouldn't easily be incorrect and if it is it would likely be car specific not universal.
That being said, i do agree that something is off, cars shouldn't be doing nose stands under braking like they are, nor should a race car exhibit such a huge angle of roll through slow corners.
Agreeably both situations point to an abnormally high center of gravity but i just can't see how they could get it so wrong and not realise?
That being said, i do agree that something is off, cars shouldn't be doing nose stands under braking like they are, nor should a race car exhibit such a huge angle of roll through slow corners.
Agreeably both situations point to an abnormally high center of gravity but i just can't see how they could get it so wrong and not realise?
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You can catch air once you go past 30 mph.
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For the MR issues, I wonder is a majority of these issues are occuring with players who use a controller vs using a steering wheel. I would bet the former...
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I'm not sure it's a CoG problem, but possibly a gravity problem. The "stoppies" are one thing, but the 'Nose Standing' is an entirely different matter- and I'm talking about some cars during a messy crash will end up like this (@ 9sec)
^ this happened a lot in gt5 as well. This is pretty far out- almost as if there is some Levity at play during these slow-motion nose stands. There are other things in GT that point towards an overall Gravity problem, such as cones flying 90ft through the air, 'barrier bale' objects at Tokyo R246 flipping around and bouncing long distances, and the ridiculous flights and acrobatics recorded from gt5 'jump tracks'.
As for the A.I cars, it's pretty obvious that they are given a greater "mass" or possibly gravity is acting stronger upon them than the user's car.
A.I. can take big hits at vulnerable times and hardly notice, whereas we can get touched at the rear fender and suffer a 'pit' maneuver very easily. I'm ok with the easy pit maneuvers as long as it can happen to the A.I. as well!
C'mon PD, stop that.
^ this happened a lot in gt5 as well. This is pretty far out- almost as if there is some Levity at play during these slow-motion nose stands. There are other things in GT that point towards an overall Gravity problem, such as cones flying 90ft through the air, 'barrier bale' objects at Tokyo R246 flipping around and bouncing long distances, and the ridiculous flights and acrobatics recorded from gt5 'jump tracks'.
As for the A.I cars, it's pretty obvious that they are given a greater "mass" or possibly gravity is acting stronger upon them than the user's car.
A.I. can take big hits at vulnerable times and hardly notice, whereas we can get touched at the rear fender and suffer a 'pit' maneuver very easily. I'm ok with the easy pit maneuvers as long as it can happen to the A.I. as well!
C'mon PD, stop that.
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F40 and R8
Those car has severe off throttle oversteer and can be extremely twitch under braking in gt6
Instead of changing brake balance, if you reduce rear toe little, it settle down well
At least for me it works well
F40 I under stand this behavior but R8 little surprised I thought would be really stable
Those car has severe off throttle oversteer and can be extremely twitch under braking in gt6
Instead of changing brake balance, if you reduce rear toe little, it settle down well
At least for me it works well
F40 I under stand this behavior but R8 little surprised I thought would be really stable
