nsx type r '02 550pp SPA setup needed

[Onboy123]

No mate, la rouge is fine, just the big sweepy corner where i can only go 220 before touching grass and spinning, and also fast corner before the chicane, others going 260kmh and my car does 230-240, i asked for a setup because mine is crap, but the first setup i tried with 2,7 front camber was absolutely ****, and i also win in the 550pp spa rooms, my fastest 3 laps from starting 12th, was a 6,50, but i have a friend doing 6,45s but he doesnt want to give me the setup, i was up for testing everything, but when i tested the 1st setup i thought, well my setup is 10 times better lol, and its all stock except the ride height and camber, then i started getting p'd off and making myself look like an idiot, and also the la rouge corner is hard, i can only go 220kmh there, i dont know nothing about setting cars up, but what i do know is the setup i tried from a post on the 1st page was not cutting it.

Ohhhh…That one! Ah…I see! Well, in that case, I'm in no position to help then, I take that corner at just over 110mph I think…I daren't go faster.

But are you sure they took that corner at 260kmh? Because that's taking the corner at over 160mph…You'd need quite a bit more power to get the thing to those speeds…then RM or some form of front downforce to get up to those speeds in a corner without killing yourself…It's numbers that I'd believe if the car is a NSX Prototype or some LMP…but a road NSX? Is that even possible?

 

[gtgta86]

Ok the google tune database or whatever it is, can somebody give me a link to the racing section, like i said before the menu just says drift drag gymkana dlc rm ect no track racing tunes

 

[gtgta86]

Ohhhh…That one! Ah…I see! Well, in that case, I'm in no position to help then, I take that corner at just over 110mph I think…I daren't go faster.

But are you sure they took that corner at 260kmh? Because that's taking the corner at over 160mph…You'd need quite a bit more power to get the thing to those speeds…then RM or some form of front downforce to get up to those speeds in a corner without killing yourself…It's numbers that I'd believe if the car is a NSX Prototype or some LMP…but a road NSX? Is that even possible?

I get to 260kmh with a little slipstream but have to brake to turn the corner, i can go maximum 245kmh, but i was watching a replay of a race, and they were going 250-260kmh around the corner, and also using accelerator while braking, which i dont know wat that does, but seemed to slow them down quiker

 

[Onboy123]

Onboy, the reason i am not sure about any of these tunes is that it says: 536pp and im at 550pp, also says manual gearbox and i use auto, and im on a pad lol, pretty much everybody has wheels nowadays which is a big advantage to handling, but i dont have the 100s of euros to buy a wheel

Well, give it an oil change, the PP will go up to 542PP, and it was tuned with a DS3, so it shouldn't be an issue. What is something to bear in mind is that it's not tuned for online, but offline.

Ok the google tune database or whatever it is, can somebody give me a link to the racing section, like i said before the menu just says drift drag gymkana dlc rm ect no track racing tunes

Just scroll to the right (I think you can do this on the phone…), and wait several years for the page to load before scrolling down to H, then find NSX Type R '02.

I get to 260kmh with a little slipstream but have to brake to turn the corner, i can go maximum 245kmh, but i was watching a replay of a race, and they were going 250-260kmh around the corner, and also using accelerator while braking, which i dont know wat that does, but seemed to slow them down quiker

Um……well, there's one thing to keep in mind when you look at the replays, the online race makes the telemetry for your opponents car slightly less accurate…so it might be that they're just brushing 250kmh but it shows that they're doing 251 or something. I'm not sure…actually.

It's left foot/finger braking, it stabilises the rear of the car and that's it for RWD cars as far as I know. For FWDs (not hat this will matter much), this loosens the rear and help it rotate and tuck into the corner.

 

[gtgta86]

Ok, thanks, i did go down to the 24 tunes for nsx, but i looked at 1 or 2 and saw over 2,0 camber and thought that wouldnt be any good, as the last i tried at 2,7 camber didnt turn in the corners, the reason im looking for a setup is after watching his replay, it was like his nsx turns as much as he wants, he was going at least 20kmh faster than me around every corner in the track, as if he was cheating or something, and also he is 7 hours difference in time zone and wasnt that stable, so maybe it was the lag that made him look faster, but either way he wins everything, and i want a good setup so maybe i can beat him lol when im in slipstream i can trail him the whole race but can never overtake, and at the grid start he pulls away like a 4wd....

 

[gtgta86]

And also on the la rouge he is going like 240kmh, and if i go any faster than 220kmh my back end just spins out, my setup is as follows: 875.4km
Every tuning part on my nsx for speed, so i have 449bhp, 44kgfm, and i then put downforce up to make it 550pp so downforce is 9

Trans is set to 310kmh, i manage to get 300kmh with slipstream at the straight after la rouge, set automatically just by increasing
Kmh

Drivetrain standard

Suspension:
-20 -20
13,5 12,5
5 5
5 5
4 4
0,7 0,9
0,00 0,10

Brakes: 7/8

And just incase you didnt know im on racing softs without degradation
any tips appreciated as i dont know anything about tuning, but before everybody starts saying of u dont know tuning why are you saying other tunes are not very good, i actually tested it to see if it was any good not just looked at the settings.

 

[Onboy123]

Ok, thanks, i did go down to the 24 tunes for nsx, but i looked at 1 or 2 and saw over 2,0 camber and thought that wouldnt be any good, as the last i tried at 2,7 camber didnt turn in the corners, the reason im looking for a setup is after watching his replay, it was like his nsx turns as much as he wants, he was going at least 20kmh faster than me around every corner in the track, as if he was cheating or something, and also he is 7 hours difference in time zone and wasnt that stable, so maybe it was the lag that made him look faster, but either way he wins everything, and i want a good setup so maybe i can beat him lol when im in slipstream i can trail him the whole race but can never overtake, and at the grid start he pulls away like a 4wd....

And also on the la rouge he is going like 240kmh, and if i go any faster than 220kmh my back end just spins out

Ok then, I'm going to ask something simple. Was driving aids allowed in that room? If so, he's probably got SRF on. It's a 'grip cheat', if you like. From what I've read, it seems to work at its most effective when the car is tuned to understeer slightly. The upshot is that the car, regardless of what it is, gains quite a considerable bit of pace through the bends.

 

[gtgta86]

Ok then, I'm going to ask something simple. Was driving aids allowed in that room? If so, he's probably got SRF on. It's a 'grip cheat', if you like. From what I've read, it seems to work at its most effective when the car is tuned to understeer slightly. The upshot is that the car, regardless of what it is, gains quite a considerable bit of pace through the bends.

No all aids off except abs also we have weak pens and weak slipstream, i edited my post with my setup, and tuning tips appreciated

 

[Motor City Hami]

but before everybody starts saying of u dont know tuning why are you saying other tunes are not very good, i actually tested it to see if it was any good not just looked at the settings.

I am only responding because this thread has now become entertaining. Let me see if I understand you correctly? You tried one tune of 24 available and stopped there to come back here looking for someone else to give you a tune? Wow... just wow! There are 23 others. Did you try any from RKM, one of the most respected tuning garages? And by trying their tune, I mean the whole tune; LSD, transmission, camber, everything.

Your current setup?
Drivetrain standard

Suspension:
-20 -20
13,5 12,5
5 5
5 5
4 4
0,7 0,9
0,00 0,10

Brakes: 7/8

Since I hope that new people can come to the tuning forum and find answers, I will offer up my thoughts, as a tuner, of what's lacking in your current tune. There is a chance that you may find something within this free advice that will help you go faster or you may just continue to ask for a very specific tune that fits exactly to the PP, track, tire, etc.

How I would change your tune:
- Car is too low.
- Springs may be o.k., but I would either lower front or raise rear to get more front grip
- Compression and extension too close together. I would tune extension to higher number than compression.
- Swaybars o.k.
- Camber is way too low for racing softs. I'm closer to 2.0 on sport softs and higher on racing softs, but you don't believe in camber, judging from previous posts.
- Not enough front negative toe
- Brakes, not enough separation between front/rear. Lower front like 2 or 3 more numbers
- LSD, no mention of settings. LSD is so key to handling in GT5, yet you're not even tuning it?
- Transmission, add the custom transmission and look to the drag racing community for help in optimizing.

 

[gtgta86]

I am only responding because this thread has now become entertaining. Let me see if I understand you correctly? You tried one tune of 24 available and stopped there to come back here looking for someone else to give you a tune? Wow... just wow! There are 23 others. Did you try any from RKM, one of the most respected tuning garages? And by trying their tune, I mean the whole tune; LSD, transmission, camber, everything.

Your current setup?
Drivetrain standard

Suspension:
-20 -20
13,5 12,5
5 5
5 5
4 4
0,7 0,9
0,00 0,10

Brakes: 7/8

Since I hope that new people can come to the tuning forum and find answers, I will offer up my thoughts, as a tuner, of what's lacking in your current tune. There is a chance that you may find something within this free advice that will help you go faster or you may just continue to ask for a very specific tune that fits exactly to the PP, track, tire, etc.

How I would change your tune:
- Car is too low.
- Springs may be o.k., but I would either lower front or raise rear to get more front grip
- Compression and extension too close together. I would tune extension to higher number than compression.
- Swaybars o.k.
- Camber is way too low for racing softs. I'm closer to 2.0 on sport softs and higher on racing softs, but you don't believe in camber, judging from previous posts.
- Not enough front negative toe
- Brakes, not enough separation between front/rear. Lower front like 2 or 3 more numbers
- LSD, no mention of settings. LSD is so key to handling in GT5, yet you're not even tuning it?
- Transmission, add the custom transmission and look to the drag racing community for help in optimizing.

Thanks for the help, i changed anti roll bars to 4/6 and now its ok, biggest problem was back end sliding out in the hill corner, now its ok, thanks for the help, way too much work to get a setup, i will test rkm or whatever you said, but its not the right settings, like im at 550pp and racing softs ect, will defanatly give a go, and of course i tried the tune exactly how it was written but basically was way too slow on the corners, because it just wanted to go in a straight line and not turn, and if that dont work i will see wat i can do with the tips you gave me, thanks

 

[gtgta86]

4 different tunes from rkm, one with a max speed of 120mph which is way too low for a 550pp nsx, and having 20 downforce means my car will have a lot of bhp less than without downforce, and seeing as spa is a fast track, say what you like but you will be faster without the downforce assuming you can actually go easy on the accelerator, and a car called the sidewinder, so im guessing they are drag/drift cars, but the tips you gave should defanatly help out, but i actually got the 7/8 brake setting from a tune on the first page of this thread, so you should be telling them that the brake balancer should be a few numbers lower in the front than back, doesnt feel any different to me, just feels like it brakes better than 5/5

 

[Adrenaline]

4 different tunes from rkm, one with a max speed of 120mph which is way too low for a 550pp nsx

Hopeless.

 

[killerjimbag]

This has got to be the best thread ever.👍

 

[krenkme]

Very entertaining

 

[Adrenaline]

If you're honestly running back to back to back 2:15's, then you're simply going to have to test each tune individually and see which if any result in quicker lap times. But those lap times without aids, boost or shortcutting are hard to come by. In which case your friend is simply a top tier driver and youll have to realize you just aren't as fast. Some of us have to do it daily.

 

[gtgta86]

If you're honestly running back to back to back 2:15's, then you're simply going to have to test each tune individually and see which if any result in quicker lap times. But those lap times without aids, boost or shortcutting are hard to come by. In which case your friend is simply a top tier driver and youll have to realize you just aren't as fast. Some of us have to do it daily.

Not constant 2,15s, as my car was unpredictable, just got lucky with a 2,15 a few times, the lobby is usually full so overtaking everybody and staying clean looses time, but got a setup now, with a standard lsd, but the car is a lot more stable so lap times are consistant now, as for my friend he is running constant 2,14s, hes a asian guy, always says gt masters team as a welcome message, dont know if its a real team or just to make him look good lol sounds good tho

 

[gtgta86]

And this thread needs closing..... I have a setup now, thanks to the tips from the guy with what looks like a green mx5 as his picture lol

 

[Rotary Junkie]

4 different tunes from rkm, one with a max speed of 120mph which is way too low for a 550pp nsx, and having 20 downforce means my car will have a lot of bhp less than without downforce, and seeing as spa is a fast track, say what you like but you will be faster without the downforce assuming you can actually go easy on the accelerator, and a car called the sidewinder, so im guessing they are drag/drift cars, but the tips you gave should defanatly help out, but i actually got the 7/8 brake setting from a tune on the first page of this thread, so you should be telling them that the brake balancer should be a few numbers lower in the front than back, doesnt feel any different to me, just feels like it brakes better than 5/5

That "max speed of 120mph" you're talking about?

Yeah, erm. Actually set the gearing up as it tells you to and guess what? It'll do 180mph with a lot of room before the rev limiter.

Then again the rest of that setup turned to understeery crap when Spec II came out so meh.

 

[Adrenaline]

Then again the rest of that setup turned to understeery crap when Spec II came out so meh.

Noticed that today. Could only run a.1:18.5 clean. 1:15 on a dirty lap. Personally the NSX doesn't fit this track for me. I use it for smaller tighter tracks. Spa also isn't on my list of frequented tracks.

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Noticed that today. Could only run a.1:18.5 clean. 1:15 on a dirty lap. Personally the NSX doesn't fit this track for me. I use it for smaller tighter tracks. Spa also isn't on my list of frequented tracks.

Yeah it's a bit odd... Before Spec II it was balanced nicely enough with just a tiny hint of understeer at times on cold tires (that gave way for neutrality)... Spec II? Goes straight.

 

[gtgta86]

Well, at least someone came up and said what ive been saying the last few days, the rkm tune is not very good, that was the tune that i tested at first, which somebody posted on page 1 of this thread, my amateur setup handles better than that with a standard lsd and only 0,7 camber on racing softs....

 

[Onboy123]

Well, at least someone came up and said what ive been saying the last few days, the rkm tune is not very good, that was the tune that i tested at first, which somebody posted on page 1 of this thread, my amateur setup handles better than that with a standard lsd and only 0,7 camber on racing softs....

Just one thing there…he started up RKM, and the whole "It's not very good" thing is entirely subjective.

And yours handles better? I doubt that…but eh, I'm going to see how much better or otherwise it is.

Edit: Just tried yours, and to be honest, though it feels alright, I need you to see one thing first. That tune on the first page is running a softer spring rate setting than yours. It was tuned on Sport Soft tyres, not racing soft, which should explain why you felt that it was refusing to turn, transferring a tune to something it wasn't meant for has been seen to have rather scary side effects.

Anyway…back to your car. I'd listen to what people say and get a F/C gearbox, the shift lag between the gears is really costing the handling and acceleration. I've had the RKM NSX ghost car just roar away from this on corner exits when it wasn't waggling its arse.

I also find the car's…er…how should I put this…sudden character change surprising. I mean, I've had times in this where I've aced every corner until I get to the 6th corner, where it just pushes. Or…you let go of the throttle and the back comes out to play. It's not consistent handling, it's very confident, but not consistent.

Following MotorCityHami's advice (The green MX5 guy) would probably cure it, but all that above is basically an overview of the problems one finds in your car.

 

[gtgta86]

Just one thing there…he started up RKM, and the whole "It's not very good" thing is entirely subjective.

And yours handles better? I doubt that…but eh, I'm going to see how much better or otherwise it is.

Ok will put my setup in a min, u will probably be judging unfair tho lol

 

[gtgta86]

Ok heres my setup
Put all upgrades on
I have 449bhp 1051kg 45,3kgfm torque
Then put downforce as high as u can without going over 550pp, mine is at 9
Racing soft tyres
Brake balancer at 7/8
Suspension as follows:
-20,-20
13,5,13,2
7,7
5,5
4,6
1,6,1,8
0,00,0,10
I have bought lsd but left it stock as thats what im used too
Trans you need to setup yourself for the track, i set at 320kmh
Then im using racing softs and no aids except abs 1, and a auto trans

Track is spa, as the setup works well on the eau rouge corner, which is where i loose the most time

 

[Onboy123]

Ok will put my setup in a min, u will probably be judging unfair tho lol

Nope. I'm fair, though I already tested the one you posted up. Look at the text above.

It's not bad, but it's just tuned differently to the RKM one. That one is for hooligans to play with, sliding around the competition on those SS tyres. Yours is more centered on speed, I think. Hence the slicks and all that, all you need is a better gearbox and you'd have an NSX that should be, in theory, faster than before.

 

[gtgta86]

That was an old setup i got a new one last night

 

[Onboy123]

That was an old setup i got a new one last night

Ohhh, right. Whoops. Well, it'll be a nice comparison between the old vs the new.

 

[gtgta86]

Nope. I'm fair, though I already tested the one you posted up. Look at the text above.

It's not bad, but it's just tuned differently to the RKM one. That one is for hooligans to play with, sliding around the competition on those SS tyres. Yours is more centered on speed, I think. Hence the slicks and all that, all you need is a better gearbox and you'd have an NSX that should be, in theory, faster than before.

Yea, well im the kind of racer who doesnt slide around corners, a bit too much steering and my car is in the barrier, and also im a clean driver, sliding round corners is asking for trouble with 12 other racers around your car, and dirty drivers are booted, plus heavy damage is on, and i hate waiting for everybody to finish while i sit and watch because my car is smashed lol sometimes when i under estimate the slipstream im sucking up i need to slide into a corner or 2 lol not intensional tho

 

[Motor City Hami]

I have bought lsd but left it stock as thats what im used too

And because of this you will continue to be slow. You need to tune the LSD or the car will continue to push and misbehave.

 

[gtgta86]

And because of this you will continue to be slow. You need to tune the LSD or the car will continue to push and misbehave.

How do you know if im slow lol i would say im pretty good, join our spa lobby if you want to go lol, street car fair @ ???