Official GTPC - Omnis vs Suzuki vs d3p0 [RESULTS ARE IN!!!]

[Suzuki]

man i see it this way.
this is a full lap contest, i had a ****ty start, so what? ya i mightve missed a turn or 2, but exhibition is mostly all about angle and smoke, which IMO you didnt have enough of. your drifts were great, dont get me wrong, you show good control by doing the full lap.
with me when im doing a full lap drift, or trying to, i usually cant drift every single corner. i just do my best, and hope for the best. on this lap, ya i fugged up the first 3 corners, and the circle... so what? its not like i didnt go for it. and its not like i cant do them by themselves, cause i sure can. but i feel that was the best lap i completed, so i put a song to it, put my # in it and gave it to tank.
i have to agree with swift and small_fryz, they summed everything up pretty much.
as it has been said before, the bigger the risk the bigger the reward. i took that risk, and i got my reward. im sure it wont always happen, but it did here. i dont have anything against you d3p0 either, but i dont have anything against the judging. im not saying this cause i won, im saying this cause the majority of our judges were(no offence to them) newbs. they will get better at judging over time, it just takes pratice in a way.
i gotta go somewhere, im going to give more input on this when i get back

 

[Samsonsama]

So pretty much everyone is saying that half of Suzuki's vid was better then all of d3p0's?

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Now d3p0, I wonder what corners you think he didn't drift and just skipped. I HAVE seen some corners where he made a mistake and had to exit the drift far too early, because otherwise he would have crashed, I think that absolutely doesn't say he skipped them. Point one out on the time line if I'm just blind (wich could also be the case) But when I saw the complaining about skipping corners, I thought we were discussing the skipping of corners in contestant #7's vid?!

Timeline: 0.28 - 0.30 minutes on #7's vid
That's the only corner in this competition that is skipped

 

[Swift]

Just some icing on the cake, but, I completed the course 7 seconds faster (meaning higher average speed) with less power.

Sorry, the rest of your post has some logic to it. But this was just funny. Who cares how fast you were going? Infact, the better I drift, the slower my lap times are. OH well.

So, judges, get in here and talk about why you scored it the way you did. You won't be repremanded or kicked off the panel, but I do think some explanations would be good.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Ok Swift: What I liked more about Suzuki's vid was the fact that he wasn't too scared to make mistakes sometimes, he began drifts earlier too and he exitted drifts later too: long drifts that is, and I like long drifts, also I thought the smoke was better and he had more angle. Haven't noticed the skipping part in Suzuki's vid

d3p0, your a cool dude, I just saw you were, well..I think you were too scared to make mistakes, not in the way your a wuss or something, no you wanted to do your best and didn't want any mistakes in the vid. Now in this course that means you have to decrease your angle drasticly, wich means you won't turn in a bit agressive anymore, wich means you won't get early drifts. Now I have to confess, I suck at this course, never had a lap like you or suzuki, but if I have to compare them..........I'm affraid suzuki drifted better:s It's not that bad....come on......d3p0, it's not like you've reached your limit, you can practice and offcourse win other challenges too, but keep this advice in your head and don't forget it.

Also, I couldn't tell where I would "punish" Suzuki for the bits on the grass, cause I couldn't lower him on his control part, cause I think that he has a pretty good control over that car where he linked those corners. And since I've took 7's as an average, it came to:
-1 point for the grass faults, but then
+1 for the linking
So if you calculate that: >7-1+1=7<

 

[bamboo]

Very close indeed, but like Tank said, " With bigger risks come bigger rewards...".

Good lap D3po and congrats to Suzuki, no wonder I nominated you for panel judge.

 

[Suzuki]

Thanks x2 bamboo!
im guessing you liked the vids eh?

 

[bamboo]

Thanks x2 bamboo!
im guessing you liked the vids eh?

Yeah... both runs were good.

 

[Mr.Code]

Who cares how fast you were going? .

That's what a majority of the worlds best drivers care about. If Mario A. were judging he would just make the fastest the winner, and would care less about HOW they got through the corner.
Infact D1 judges break down runs in this order: One, Speed; Two, Line; and three Angle.

 

[Swift]

That's what a majority of the worlds best drivers care about. If Mario A. were judging he would just make the fastest the winner, and would care less about HOW they got through the corner.
Infact D1 judges break down runs in this order: One, Speed; Two, Line; and three Angle.

Uh...yeah. That's true and great for RACING but we're talking about exhibition drifting here. Lap times hold no meaning at all. As far as the D1 Judging goes. I'm actually not certain on that. But I think our system works just fine.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

Ok I see tha many don't really understand what GT4 drifting is based on: it's based on smoke and angle, smootheness and style. Pure art nothing else, many of you might come on this forum with the idea that we are imitators of Initial D, or D1GP. That's not the case, we're based on US(not the shortcut for United States offcourse)

 

[nissandrifter]

good job Suzuki

 

[Mr.Code]

As far as the D1 Judging goes. I'm actually not certain on that.

Well I am.

 

[194GVan]

Ok Swift: What I liked more about Suzuki's vid was the fact that he wasn't too scared to make mistakes sometimes, he began drifts earlier too and he exitted drifts later too: long drifts that is, and I like long drifts, also I thought the smoke was better and he had more angle.

thats what i noticed on Suzuki's vid. On d3p0's I gave him more points for control, because you cant deny, he was in control of what his car was doing. He kept it on track, and his driving was smooth and controlled under all circumstances. Suzuki also demonstrated control, I liked the linked turns where he hopped the curb and the angle and speed of the car appeared to be unaffected, it didnt phase him. but there were a few "oops" moments in other parts of the vid.

Suzuki took it in the angle and smoke department, consistently drifting higher angles than d3p0 on many of the turns. I couldnt tell you the turn but one of them d3p0 completely blew Suzuki away with a really long, really controlled drift (on a sorta downhill section into an right turn about halfway through the video i think it was), but many of the other drifts were lower angle and little-no smoke. d3p0's beginning drifts were also better as the beginning of Suzuki's vid didnt have that much going on.

style was the hardest thing to judge as its somewhat subjective. I liked the balls to the wall approach, the more controlled approach gave me the impression d3p0 was holding back a little.

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

I agree on most parts, but the way that control is judged, is totally wrong I think. Control often means low angle drifting, what my goal was in my challenge against Phantom D, was to get as much angle as possible, and let it look out of control, that's nice in a drift I think, I pushed it right to the edge and it took me so long to control my kind of drifts. Now I thought, if you have more angle and don't crash, you have more control, but I was penalized on control, while another more low angle vid got extra points for control.

In a general way: control is when you can do amazing things, you have to be rewarded for this.
Control is not when you barely make drifts with low angle.

Most real life vids also give you the idea that they're out of control and just lucky, THAT's what makes real life drifting fun to watch, it's not fun to watch your type of control is it

I think a lot of people need to be cleared up on this.
Et but nothing personal to you Van, if I sound to agressive; I'm sorry but didn't mean to sound like that

 

[Rism]

Wow I sense some corrupt judging sezukis video sucked ass. Ive seen 9 year olds drift better. In my book d3po wins.

 

[Droptop_Chick]

Wow I sense some corrupt judging sezukis video sucked ass. Ive seen 9 year olds drift better. In my book d3po wins.

Corruption, bold statement. You shouldn't go about criticizing his video that way. It's VERY rude, and I don't see you doing any better now huh? Overall I do like d3po's video better, it was a cleaner run, smooth, and good control. But it's EXHIBITION, so taking the risks goes farther. More angle, more smoke, more flash, more wowing the crowd. I don't know how I would've judged this, two pretty much conflicting videos. Whatever, everyone has their own opinion...

 

[Gen.]

Wow I sense some corrupt judging sezukis video sucked ass. Ive seen 9 year olds drift better. In my book d3po wins.

Please don't state unsupported accusations.

Then insulting people is not the way to go. GTP doesn't need people like you.

 

[Swift]

Wow I sense some corrupt judging sezukis video sucked ass. Ive seen 9 year olds drift better. In my book d3po wins.

It's anonymous. The judges DON'T know who they are judging. So, being biased is quite difficult.

Also, you WILL refrain from insulting and accusing people with no evidence whatsoever.

 

[ToyotaDrifter]

BURNED LOL!!!! You go SWIFT!!
-TD

 

[Suzuki]

Wow I sense some corrupt judging sezukis video sucked ass. Ive seen 9 year olds drift better. In my book d3po wins.

wow i sense some hostility. BTW, if your gunna talk ish about someone, at least get their name right!
now since you say my vid sucked ass, id love to see you do any better, within the same time period, with the same rules. or show me a 9 year old with a better lap then what i had. untill then, ive got 4 words to say. shut the hell up.
your book doesnt matter here. only thing that matters here is what the judges say. what ever the judges say, goes.
and the whole point of them giving us numbers to put in our vid is to hide who the driver is, so therefore there is no corruption at all. i didnt tell anyone who i am, im sure d3p0 didnt either. the ONLY person on the judging panel who knows who is who is the head judge.
now, go somewhere else besides here.

 

[Swift]

Ok guys. We've addressed it. That's it.

 

[Boundary Layer]

wow, take a 3 day weekend and the thread blows up....

 

[G-T-4-Fan]

HAHA TS lol