Ok. I'm stuck. Anybody beat Nascar Exteme B-Spec yet?

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I'm not up to these races in B-Spec yet (level 15), but I can tell they are going to be near-impossible. Especially seeing how hard the NASCAR and Historic Car Cup events were in A-Spec, I have no idea how Bob is going to win.

Bob has severe mental retardation when it comes to Daytona, he brakes coming into the bends and even in the straights, when I'm pretty sure Daytona is full throttle the entire way through.

For the Historic Cup, you have to find a car Bob is good with, thank god I've got the XJ15, Ford Mk.IV and Ferrari P4... Hopefully Bob can win in ONE of them.

As for NASCAR, I think you just have to get lucky, there's no way to make your car better than the competition :(

You actually can, though by very little. Oil change, then put 200 miles on it to break it in, giving you slightly more horse power than everybody else.
 
The only way to win Daytona is turning brake balance to 1/1 so the ASM won't cause slowing your car down.

I did that in both A & B-Spec and I wasn't slowed down in the turns. Easy win.
 
Working on it now. Finding my driver needs a lot of telling what to do. If I dont tell him to overtake every 30 seconds he just falls to the back of the pack. I also have to keep an eye on his pitstops. A couple of times now hes pitted on the last or next to last lap. Its Deffinitely not a set off and leave B-spec!

Oh and I tuned my gears to max 111mph.
 
Tis cake if you use a 2011 model and stabilizer bar. Just keep telling Bob to pass when you're right behind another car and you'll win most of the races. Got it first try no problem.
 
I'm able to beat the first course out of the 5 courses with no problems, but as soon as I start the 2nd course, the boneheaded B-spec driver of mind drives like a 2-year-old: horrible. Any of you guys manage to get a gold for this series?

The mood of your driver plays a huge role in the Extreme Series races. If the driver's arrow is down and orange give him a few days R&R, use another driver, or simply do not attempt the race.
 
You actually can, though by very little. Oil change, then put 200 miles on it to break it in, giving you slightly more horse power than everybody else.

If it helps I used the toyota race car '70 with a top speed of around 185 setting on the transmission.(Historic Car Cup)
 
sidewaysfordays
Toyota 7 in a nascar race eh? Interesting strategy.

I must have replied to you when I was really attempting to reply to someone else who mentioned only placing #6 with the Toyota 7 in the Historic Car Cup.
 
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I've won the NASCAR event with a 1,3,1,1,10 finish, 1st overall. The first four tracks can be won by shortening the gears (reducing the speed). Bob had a 3-9 second lead in all first place finishes; Grand Valley, Bob netted a third place by driving the track as if it were a drift battle. He had to pit on lap 6, but so did every other car in the field except for 1 and 2. He requires constant diligent coaching through each race.

I could probably get a better finish at Daytona by playing with the gears more. I won't say a win (Bob doesn't seem to like drafting or to receive a push for some reason) but definitely better than 10. The entire field was split by less than 2 seconds.
 
I easily won the first four races, but I'm hopelessly stuck on Daytona. I can't achieve anything above 5th, no matter which bob or NASCAR I use.
 
Since it does not limit you with power points raise up dowforce i had no problem withlevel 21 driver

You do not need downforce at Daytona. I run minimum downforce and ride height at 15. Win it with no problem. You gotta have the RH at at least 10 or you will bottom out in the banked corners causing a loss of time. Don't start pushing bob hard until like lap 15. Just let him cruise mid pack until then. I've done it with a level 21 bob before.
 
Phew-just won the championship on my first proper go at it. Level 35 cool headed bob using leadboots72 tune guide. 1st in 1st 3 races, then 4th at lacuna seca-but that was my fault-I kept him running low till the last few laps but paced him up too late to win it. Daytona I was all over the place positionally and then ended up 10th.
On grand valley I even had to pit after 1st 2 laps and still won by pacing slow until behind all th cars with their knackered tyres!
 
In my first try at the championship, I got 2nd, 1st, 1st, 1st, 8th, and won overall.
The 2nd place finish at Indy was just bad luck (24 decided to go with the other Montoya car instrad of mine. My 8th at Daytona was just poor timing on my part.

Second try at Indy, I won be a few seconds, and at Daytona, my driver madde a 4-wide pass on the last lap on the Daytona Superstrech (the Backstraightaway) to win (I have pics of it on deviantArt http://fav.me/d4q7d83 http://fav.me/d4q7dr9.
I did nothing to the setup except for adjusting downforce so it was minimal at Indy and Daytona, maximum downforce for Grand Valley and Laguna SECA, and the default downforce for High Speed Ring,
 
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You do not need downforce at Daytona. I run minimum downforce and ride height at 15. Win it with no problem. You gotta have the RH at at least 10 or you will bottom out in the banked corners causing a loss of time. Don't start pushing bob hard until like lap 15. Just let him cruise mid pack until then. I've done it with a level 21 bob before.

I noticed yesterday that the only gold I didn't have for B-spec was Daytona NASCAR. I gave it a couple of tries and fail.

Then I read this. Set my ride height to 10 and done. Bob broke the draft and drove away. I held him in the middle of the range so he didn't back off. He was up by 6 seconds on lap 18 but he burned up his right rear and the gap was down to 4.5 seconds by the end.
 
Today I was playing NASCAR extreme championship. Thought it would be more difficult than it actually is. Got 4 in a row easy wins until the infamous daytona. FYI my bob is 26.lvl. He did quite well with Vickers Camry '11, no pit stops, 10 seconds + winning gaps. So I gave it a try with a little different gears set up at Daytona, but I came in 9th place. So, basically you just need to change gear ratios, modify a bit ride height and decrease the amount of downforce to win?
 
Johnny.Ly
I'm able to beat the first course out of the 5 courses with no problems, but as soon as I start the 2nd course, the boneheaded B-spec driver of mind drives like a 2-year-old: horrible. Any of you guys manage to get a gold for this series?

Well I used this setup someone made which was tune for every race with tactics.Won gold very easy with it just search it.
 
As more of a NASCAR guy, i am disgusted with how PD decided to let the AI run Daytona. It IS a wide open throttle track. and the cars dont go 230 down the backstretch. But it is such a good "game". I used the quotations because i think of it as more of a simulator.
 
I'm able to beat the first course out of the 5 courses with no problems, but as soon as I start the 2nd course, the boneheaded B-spec driver of mind drives like a 2-year-old: horrible. Any of you guys manage to get a gold for this series?

I got 1st overall on this one i used Carl Edwards #99 FUSION tweaked transmission and a few bits here and there got 1st race won 2nd race twelth (dead last i think that is) 3rd race won 4th race won and last race fourth was enough to give me first and gold trophy overall.
 
First race - min downforce front and rear. Speed set to 242.
Second race - max downforce. Speed set to 190.
Third race - 3/4 downforce. Speed set to 217.
Fourth race - 1/2 downforce. Speed set to 217.
Last race (patience required) - min downforce. Speed set to 249.

With the last one,my.driver was up and down in the pack and then made a run at the end, won by 0.9 seconds.

Obviously do an oil change before starting the race, and if he doesn't win still finish as they improve their skills and you get xp. I used the same stats for A-spec as well, but tweaked the camber uptown around -6.

It helps me to win
1-4 race only first place
5 race 6 place
Totally event win with first place
Thanks
 
I'm certain that I'm not the only racer out here that is in this position, but I have to tell ya, persistence pays dividends. I have trained up 14 drivers. 10 of them have reached LVL 35. (Obviously I fired a bunch, too.)
NASCAR was the toughest series I experienced. It took me numerous trys, but beat it with all wins (GOLDS). I am running the top endurance races right now (LeMANS / SARTHE now with the NURBURGRING next) and it is difficult, but thanks to the advice I got from another racer here at GTPlanet, I'm 10 hours into the event and have second place 3 laps down. (I'm concerned about my 3 drivers, however. I don't know if they will last 24 hours. Time will tell.)
My advice to all is to be persistent. The B-Spec drivers are ALL idiots and you just have to endure it. I am only getting them done because I want to complete as much of the game as is possible. (I wish we could B-Spec the way we did in GT-4 :) PEACE, Racefans!
 
I'm certain that I'm not the only racer out here that is in this position, but I have to tell ya, persistence pays dividends. I have trained up 14 drivers. 10 of them have reached LVL 35. (Obviously I fired a bunch, too.)
NASCAR was the toughest series I experienced. It took me numerous trys, but beat it with all wins (GOLDS). I am running the top endurance races right now (LeMANS / SARTHE now with the NURBURGRING next) and it is difficult, but thanks to the advice I got from another racer here at GTPlanet, I'm 10 hours into the event and have second place 3 laps down. (I'm concerned about my 3 drivers, however. I don't know if they will last 24 hours. Time will tell.)
My advice to all is to be persistent. The B-Spec drivers are ALL idiots and you just have to endure it. I am only getting them done because I want to complete as much of the game as is possible. (I wish we could B-Spec the way we did in GT-4 :) PEACE, Racefans!


thats was my favorite part about gt4. i loved speeding up the race.
 
How to get first place in all five races without much trouble.

I don't know if this has been said, but I'll tell how I did it, since I'm too damned lazy to scroll through 100+ pages of replies on here to check if I'm repeating.:

I don't know if car matters, but I used the Lowe's Jimmy Johnson Impala. I really doubt that it matters since NASCAR cars are very similar, but feel free to experiment on your own.

As far as I know this ONLY works for the NASCAR races and I wouldn't recommend it for other types, but hell, it might actually work, so who knows? I figured out a strategy that works for these irritating races after losing my temper with them initially. Same HP cars, with a fool at the wheel, yeah, that's fun. :P

Step 1: Pick a driver who is in a good mood. (He has the diagonal up arrow next to his icon.)
Step 2: Tune the car up one notch to increase the top speed. (I did nothing else to the car, except oil change before the series.)
Step 3: During the countdown, tell the driver to Pace Up.
Step 4. Every time the timer runs out, tell the driver to Pace Up, even when he's maxed.
Step 5: Watch your driver fail miserably, but keep hitting Pace Up.
Step 6: Repeat Step 5.
Step 7: Watch as your BOB suddenly starts passing cars, like he's supposed to. Continue to Pace Up.
Step 8: Watch as BOB manages to get up to 4th place. Continue to Pace Up.
Step 9: Watch as BOB actually starts driving well and passes the other 3 cars.

At this point BOB will be in 1st and will actually win the race with a bit of a lead. He may initially lose the lead after gaining 1st, but will get back into 1st again. On the tracks with many curves, the non-oval tracks, you may wish to let him calm down a bit after he's gained the lead, just to be on the safe side, but I had no problems with him wiping out or driving erratically. I pushed him all the way through Laguna.

I don't know why this works for the NASCAR races, but I was able to get first place in all 5 of the races without much trouble. It's almost like BOB doesn't hear you for about 5 minutes and then suddenly wakes up and says, "Ohhhh, you want me to win. No problem." In other words, BOB will be completely dumb for roughly half the race and then suddenly be able to drive correctly.

Side note: Overtake will not work, I tried it and it seems to be "heard" by BOB as one of three things:

1. Slow down to let the 3 cars behind you pass by.
2. Ram into the back of the car in front of you as hard as you can.
3. Go around the car in front of you, and when you have the lead, slow down for no reason.
 
How I won every race by 15+ seconds:

The car

Doesn't matter which car you use, but I had the 2011 Allmendinger Fusion because I am a Richard Petty fan. change oil to max out HP. Add Chassis Reinforcement. This is important because it alleviates some of the cars tendency to over steer.

Ride Height: +15/+15 (no bottoming out on Daytona or curbs and in 2.10 higher ride height means better traction. We take care of the loss of turning with the springs and shocks.

Springs: 14.3/13.3
Extension: 8/4
Compression 8/4
ARB: 7/7
Camber 1.0/0.5 (minimize tire wear)
Toe 0.00/0.00 (minimize tire wear)
Break Balance 0/0 (Bob needs this - saves your tires)
LSD 60/60/60 (saves tires and stabilizes breaking)
Aero and transmission below per event.

The Driver

You want a COOL headed Bob because of the constant babysitting required for these events. Having him not lose his mind at your constant harping is critical. I tried this same setup with a 60% hot Bob and only won 3 races. My Bob was about 5% from the far left temperament gauge. Level 23 with about 15% of his experience bar filled.

The Races

Indy: Aero 20/40 Tranny 230MPH Directives: Keep hitting Pace Up until you get a lead. Once you have a lead over 2 seconds, let your temperament fall to about 95% and then just hit Maintain Pace about 75% of the way down each straight. I used the full map indicator and hit Maintain Pace every time I hit the grid line before turns 1 and 3. You will continue to stretch out your lead through the end. My lap times were all 52-33 se3conds and I won by 15.282 seconds.

Grand Valley S:Peedway: Aero 50/70, Tranny 199 Directives: PATIENCE! This race is all about keeping a cool head while the other drivers paint the track black with burned rubber. Going into the very first hairpin, hit PACE DOWN. Repeat going onto the 2nd hairpin, repeat going into the third turn before the first tunnel. Repeat in the first tunnel. Hit PACE UP at the apex of the 2nd tunnel for the bridge run. Hit PACE DOWN just before you leave the tunnel. Hit PACE UP after the two sharp left/rights which is right before the last corner. Repeat this sequence every lap for the first 5 laps. During this time the other drivers lose their mind one at a time and while they are drifting around a tight corner burning off their rubber, your Bob will calmly pass them on the outside. I passed the first place car just before the last corner on lap 5 using this method. After that, let your Bob settle at 50% on the hot/cold meter and just keep using MAINTAIN PACE to keep him at 50%. Your superior tire condition will allow you to pull away for the lat 3 laps. All laps were 1:58-1:59 and I won by 15.485 seconds.

High Speed Ring: Aero 40/45 Tranny 217 MPH Directives: PACE UP the entire time EXCEPT the two sharpest "S" curves, where the PACE DOWN command is used. Once you get the lead, you wil again have the best tire condition, just get Bob to around 95% hot and hit MAINTAIN PACE twice a sap to keep him there. I ran 1:04-1:05 laps and won by 17.841 seconds.

Laguna Seca: Aero 40/45 Tranny 186 MPH Directives: use PACE UP until you get to the corkscrew where you need to PACE DOWN. Using Pace Down here actually improves your time because BOB chooses a much smoother line, stays on the tarmac and does not bury the nose in the dirt at the bottom. If Bob becomes over zealous and starts burning tires, use PACE DOWN until he settles down a bit. I finished the race with only two small black streaks left by Bob. After taking the lead, let Bob settle in at 50% hot and use MAINTAIN PACE to keep pulling away. Average lap time 1:29/1:30, I won by 13.720 seconds.

Daytona: Aero 20/40 Tranny 242 MPH Directives: Use Pace UP continually to work your way to the front. It takes Bob a few laps to figure out he dominates on the low line and falls back on the high line, so you will move up and down in the pack for the first 8-10 laps. Keep hitting Pace Up until you get a lead. Eventually, there will be a two car break from the main pack. Keep hitting Pace Up and you will lose that car in 2 corners. Once you have a 2 second lead, drop your pace to 95% hot and use Maintain Pace through then end. Average lap time 2-43 seconds. I won by 14.003 seconds.

Hope this helps.
 
kothar44
How I won every race by 15+ seconds:

The car

Doesn't matter which car you use, but I had the 2011 Allmendinger Fusion because I am a Richard Petty fan. change oil to max out HP. Add Chassis Reinforcement. This is important because it alleviates some of the cars tendency to over steer.

Ride Height: +15/+15 (no bottoming out on Daytona or curbs and in 2.10 higher ride height means better traction. We take care of the loss of turning with the springs and shocks.

Springs: 14.3/13.3
Extension: 8/4
Compression 8/4
ARB: 7/7
Camber 1.0/0.5 (minimize tire wear)
Toe 0.00/0.00 (minimize tire wear)
Break Balance 0/0 (Bob needs this - saves your tires)
LSD 60/60/60 (saves tires and stabilizes breaking)
Aero and transmission below per event.

The Driver

You want a COOL headed Bob because of the constant babysitting required for these events. Having him not lose his mind at your constant harping is critical. I tried this same setup with a 60% hot Bob and only won 3 races. My Bob was about 5% from the far left temperament gauge. Level 23 with about 15% of his experience bar filled.

The Races

Indy: Aero 20/40 Tranny 230MPH Directives: Keep hitting Pace Up until you get a lead. Once you have a lead over 2 seconds, let your temperament fall to about 95% and then just hit Maintain Pace about 75% of the way down each straight. I used the full map indicator and hit Maintain Pace every time I hit the grid line before turns 1 and 3. You will continue to stretch out your lead through the end. My lap times were all 52-33 se3conds and I won by 15.282 seconds.

Grand Valley S:Peedway: Aero 50/70, Tranny 199 Directives: PATIENCE! This race is all about keeping a cool head while the other drivers paint the track black with burned rubber. Going into the very first hairpin, hit PACE DOWN. Repeat going onto the 2nd hairpin, repeat going into the third turn before the first tunnel. Repeat in the first tunnel. Hit PACE UP at the apex of the 2nd tunnel for the bridge run. Hit PACE DOWN just before you leave the tunnel. Hit PACE UP after the two sharp left/rights which is right before the last corner. Repeat this sequence every lap for the first 5 laps. During this time the other drivers lose their mind one at a time and while they are drifting around a tight corner burning off their rubber, your Bob will calmly pass them on the outside. I passed the first place car just before the last corner on lap 5 using this method. After that, let your Bob settle at 50% on the hot/cold meter and just keep using MAINTAIN PACE to keep him at 50%. Your superior tire condition will allow you to pull away for the lat 3 laps. All laps were 1:58-1:59 and I won by 15.485 seconds.

High Speed Ring: Aero 40/45 Tranny 217 MPH Directives: PACE UP the entire time EXCEPT the two sharpest "S" curves, where the PACE DOWN command is used. Once you get the lead, you wil again have the best tire condition, just get Bob to around 95% hot and hit MAINTAIN PACE twice a sap to keep him there. I ran 1:04-1:05 laps and won by 17.841 seconds.

Laguna Seca: Aero 40/45 Tranny 186 MPH Directives: use PACE UP until you get to the corkscrew where you need to PACE DOWN. Using Pace Down here actually improves your time because BOB chooses a much smoother line, stays on the tarmac and does not bury the nose in the dirt at the bottom. If Bob becomes over zealous and starts burning tires, use PACE DOWN until he settles down a bit. I finished the race with only two small black streaks left by Bob. After taking the lead, let Bob settle in at 50% hot and use MAINTAIN PACE to keep pulling away. Average lap time 1:29/1:30, I won by 13.720 seconds.

Daytona: Aero 20/40 Tranny 242 MPH Directives: Use Pace UP continually to work your way to the front. It takes Bob a few laps to figure out he dominates on the low line and falls back on the high line, so you will move up and down in the pack for the first 8-10 laps. Keep hitting Pace Up until you get a lead. Eventually, there will be a two car break from the main pack. Keep hitting Pace Up and you will lose that car in 2 corners. Once you have a 2 second lead, drop your pace to 95% hot and use Maintain Pace through then end. Average lap time 2-43 seconds. I won by 14.003 seconds.

Hope this helps.

Thanks so much for these set ups.. won championship in first try, only difference is I had my very hot headed bob (close to 95%) with almost a full cornering bar and level 32. He had comfortable leads by lap 3 -5 except for Grand Valley
 
Thanks so much for these set ups.. won championship in first try, only difference is I had my very hot headed bob (close to 95%) with almost a full cornering bar and level 32. He had comfortable leads by lap 3 -5 except for Grand Valley

Glad this helped. I'm guessing your level 32 compared to my level 23 helped you overcome the hot headed Bob at Grand Valley.
 

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