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[lspredator]

You've never driven on ice before then, haha.

I have, but CH tires feel like driving on snow, with bad snow tires

 

[lspredator]

I once encounter a drifter using CM's,the lobby host asked the guy politely to change his tires to CH's,the guy immediately caught an attitude blabbing on and on about his right to use whatever tire he pleased,in the middle of his rant he was kicked.

You see the problem wasn't that he was using CM's,the problem was that every time we would be in a tandem he would come out of no where and hit us because his tires had more grip,he would never lead and everytime he would follow he would hit the person in front of him causing a wreck(we were on Silverstone National circuit aka "Train Tandem Central").

I have nothing against people who use other tires beside CH's but they have to realize that when they come into a room filled with CH users there are things you can and can't do useless you can adjust yourself to drifting with us.

I can adjust my Tune to follow cars on CH tires with a car on cm tires

 

[PsuPepperoni]

I don't think people really even need to adjust their tunes to avoid ramming, they just need to learn about a revolutionary new technique called slowing down.

 

[twodogsgolden]

I don't think people really even need to adjust their tunes to avoid ramming, they just need to learn about a revolutionary new technique called slowing down.

What a novel idea

 

[Situation1994]

This whole discussion about tires is a big blown up topic started by people who can't drift (i do not mean the posters, i mean the people saying CH is a noobish tyre) because everybody drives differently and need other tyres for their specific car, in fact none of the tyres are noobish, they get called by the people who can't control their car on these tyres like others (like us) do

 

[194GVan]

As a GT noob (again) all I know is I spent several hours practicing on CH tires, the overall feeling being annoyed and discouraged. Drifting was possible but it wasn't really much (any) fun having to be so delicate with the car, it was so easy to just make a slightly exaggerated input and ruin everything...

Switched to CM tires and now I can actually drift at least 2-3x better. The CM tires just have the level of grip I prefer.

 

[Dan]

As a GT noob (again) all I know is I spent several hours practicing on CH tires, the overall feeling being annoyed and discouraged. Drifting was possible but it wasn't really much (any) fun having to be so delicate with the car, it was so easy to just make a slightly exaggerated input and ruin everything...

Switched to CM tires and now I can actually drift at least 2-3x better. The CM tires just have the level of grip I prefer.

I'm glad that you found something that works for you. 👍

 

[ACGreen86]

I'm definitely not trying to bash anyone for using what tire they like best. If you love a certain tire, then drift the hell out of it and be proud. Personally, I like to drift on CH tires, set my room to CH, and put on some Five Finger Death Punch. What I don't like is catching flak for my tire preference... I like rooms where everyone can tandem together without having to worry about people "running too fast cuz SH noob" or "too slow CH noob gtfo". This argument seems to work both ways, and recently I've heard it all. I MUST be joining the absolute worst rooms ever because all I ever hear now is arguments about tire choice.

 

[PsuPepperoni]

I know fully well that the "slippery slope" concept is a logical fallacy, but I'm using it anyway.

If we say it's all right for people to use CS tires in our drift lobbies, they'll start to want SS, and by summer we'll all have to drift on RS!

 

[Serum]

Too bad you can't make a room "wheel only," but let it allow ds3 users in who are using ch to enter. That would solve the problem for those who care about getting hit.

I would tip my hat to the guy using a wheel and GOING HAM using Sx or Rx tires.

 

[twitcher]

....... I MUST be joining the absolute worst rooms ever because all I ever hear now is arguments about tire choice.

Sorry to hear about your experiences . Fortunately, I have not had to deal with this type of atmosphere for a few years now, as I typically only join rooms that are hosted or populated by fellow GTP drifters (sometimes, I'll join a random Tsukuba lobby just to punish myself XD). In my experience, it is with the non-GTP community that these situations happen.

Over the last 3+ years I have been fortunate enough to populate my PSN friends list with almost exclusively GTP folk, so I don't have much trouble finding decent rooms.

Perhaps a simple work-around for this problem would be for those of us who host rooms to simply add a GTP tag to the room name so the "good" rooms are easier to find. My hope would then be that these GTP labeled rooms could be held to the standards laid out by the GTP track etiquette guidelines. Just a suggestion.

 

[TexRex]

I'm definitely not trying to bash anyone for using what tire they like best. If you love a certain tire, then drift the hell out of it and be proud. Personally, I like to drift on CH tires, set my room to CH, and put on some Five Finger Death Punch. What I don't like is catching flak for my tire preference... I like rooms where everyone can tandem together without having to worry about people "running too fast cuz SH noob" or "too slow CH noob gtfo". This argument seems to work both ways, and recently I've heard it all. I MUST be joining the absolute worst rooms ever because all I ever hear now is arguments about tire choice.

I have nothing against people using other tires in other rooms. If someone asks me to allow a little more grip I'm willing to oblige until the inevitable time that people are getting too fast and not respecting those that are slower.

 

[Lazy Liquid]

OMG... these threads...

 

[xghosthunterx]

This is likely going to cause a stir in the drifting community.

*Grabs popcorn*

I was once called a noob because I wasn't "speed drifting" like another person was. He was in a fully modded ZR1 with racing hard tires and kept bumping into me when I was drifting in a BTR on CH tires.

People get mad at me for AWD drifting, but my Torque setting is 10/90 to make it act like a fr car. They say AWD is cheating. Btw I use ch's

 

[Dan]

People get mad at me for AWD drifting, but my Torque setting is 10/90 to make it act like a fr car. They say AWD is cheating. Btw I use ch's

Still, 10/90 is not rear wheel drive. Power is still being sent to the front wheels, so it acts like a 4WD car, not a rear wheel drive car. A 4WD car performs significantly different from a rear wheel drive car. I don't have a problem with people using 4WD cars, just as long as they don't hit other people.

 

[xghosthunterx]

Still, 10/90 is not rear wheel drive. Power is still being sent to the front wheels, so it acts like a 4WD car, not a rear wheel drive car. A 4WD car performs significantly different from a rear wheel drive car. I don't have a problem with people using 4WD cars, just as long as they don't hit other people.

I am not one of those type, I usually let people pass me so I don't impede traffic. I know what you are saying and agree a lot immature people out there and it's not just their age I am talking about.

 

[iNflow]

Calling one tyre "easier" to drift on is stupid. There is no one side to how you can control tyres, they have pros and cons. CH is more forgiving in terms of how the loss of traction is more gradual but is difficult to balance oversteer since it's such a hard compound and doesn't grip well. The inverse of this occurs with CM and CS.

Those who typically call CH "noobish" are those who likely run high HP vehicles and just use CS because they can't control their vehicle with CH.

 

[Mr Shakotan]

CH tires are the hardest to use whoever said they are noob tires is a noob. Everybody should be on CH tires with rwd cars only. That way we can see who has actual skill and who is relying on tire grip and the awd power split to help them.

 

[Dan]

Oh yay. More elitism.

 

[Streeto]

Oh yay. More elitism.

Do you even drift bro? (jokes)

Who's being an elitist? Do you know what elitist means?

 

[Isho]

CH tires are the hardest to use whoever said they are noob tires is a noob. Everybody should be on CH tires with rwd cars only. That way we can see who has actual skill and who is relying on tire grip and the awd power split to help them.

Except not everybody drifts to show their skills.

 

[TH137Z]

Except not everybody drifts to show their skills.

Says he who wins every comp he enters lol.

 

[Isho]

Says he who wins every comp he enters lol.

 

[Stavingo]

👍

 

[TH137Z]

Ahaha sorry, had to.

 

[shmogt]

lol ya like some people said anyone who says CH are for noobs are noobs. You just touch the gas and the rear will start to spin. Very difficult to control high hp cars.

 

[Streeto]

If you spin by just "touching" the gas you need to practice that throttle control... and maybe re-tune your suspension.

 

[TH137Z]

If you spin by just "touching" the gas you need to practice that throttle control... and maybe re-tune your suspension.

Think he meant spin the wheels lol.

 

[Streeto]

Think he meant spin the wheels lol.

That's what I mean...

 

[TexRex]

If you spin by just "touching" the gas you need to practice that throttle control... and maybe re-tune your suspension.

*seeks shelter*

Or, ya know...use something with less power.