Online Experiences?F1 2010-2016 

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Just wanted to get peoples thoughts on their online experiences racing others. I have played Quick Events and Custom GPs. I have to say that the custom GPs should be the only way any one on this forum should play, and even that is spotty.

The game is best online as you lose almost all of the bugs, however the racing craft and etiquette of people online is absolutely ridiculous. The custom GPs generally smooth out after the 1st lap, but god help you if you start 1st, you will be rammed. I have many times let people pass me so I can be behind the carnage. Also I can now see why all I see are complaints about the game online, 90% of the people suck and cannot actually race, when in th clear I have been at least a second faster than anyone else I play.

It is also hard to find someone who will race you cleanly, someone might for a few corners but if you get close to race end they will smash you. Its frustrating having to play cat and mouse faking drivers out as they try and chop you trying to get them to hit the wall. The other part to this that is equally frustrating is the fact that if you are a wheel behind the other car and they smash you, you recieve the penalty. I was beside a guy that I had faked outside and went in coming down the straight, I was along side and thought he had conceded, instead as I was halfway beside him he rams me into the wall and I recieve a penalty and break my car. WTF

The problem is there is no real penalties soon enough, they don't slow or make ghost cars as often as they should so people destroy your race in the 1st lap and bu then there is not enough time to catch up. This problem is magnified in Quick Events as it is a cluster*#$@! the whole time. If they implimented a ghost car for erratic moves or 10-20 sec penalty for ramming and corner cuttting I saw guys full speed through the chicane at Monza because such a weak penalty was implimented that the time difference made it worth cutting through.

I just wanted to see what others have seen online.
 
:crazy: :dunce: i'd love to race in a monster truck ... the game is smooth online alright but the human nature kinda suck and we are all in it together. I had 3 races and i was rammed in every corner but the first one is the worst,:nervous: reminds me of suzuka in gt5p ... :-( ppl will ram u like there is no tomorrow.
 
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EmArA
:crazy: :dunce: i'd love to race in a monster truck ... the game is smooth online alright but the human nature kinda suck and we are all in it together. I had 3 races and i was rammed in every corner but the first one is the worst,:nervous: reminds me of suzuka in gt5p ... :-( ppl will ram u like there is no tomorrow.
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Oh god the horror, yes exactly like Suzuka, and pretty much any other track in GT5P that involved racing other humans. The only way the majority of that got ironed out was unfortunately time, wreckless drivers soon became bored, the hardcore was left and racing became better.

Is it so much to ask, as should be a know law of racing, you must move your braking point back at least a car length before your usual brake point when following someone. Physics dictates you will hit them as they have hit the brakes before you, this is racing 101.
 
Yeah it can be dicey out there, but not always so. I'm up to lvl 21 or so now and although most races are 1st corner disasters I've had a few (true only a few and they were 4 or less affaris) races where everything was clean.

Anyway as much as I try to be clean myself, much easier on tracks I know well natch, I completely flubbed my T1 breaking point first time out at Melbourne and annihilated about 3 cars in front of me :ouch:. So TBH we all have brain farts from time to time.

Also there are a few courses, or layouts in Bahrain and Silverstone's case, that we just haven't raced before. Incidents on these tracks just have to be reasonably expected as the learning curve with cars this fast and twitchy is pretty steep.

All things considered, I've found the online racing to be an excellent experience. Even when racing guys from around the globe, lag hasn't been a huge factor for me yet. After the lag fest that was F1:CE this, if nothing else, has been a grand step forward. Now on the single player side... well, best not go there until the patch is released ;).
 
:)

I use the 'custom race' online.

Once racing I realized that I was hearing racers talking during the race through my surround sound. The 'chatters' were most annoying when swearing, burping and speaking an unknown language.

The racing was OK but I was using med traction control, abs on and racing line on; so not all custom races allow driving aids and unless you switch off aids you can't race there (which is OK).

Yeah some people smashed me on purpose and my car was destroyed (out of race); but others raced clean though everyone was learning the new game.

Then I bought a ps3 bluetooth to see if I could chat, and also turn off the 'chatters' if I wasn't interested in chatting.

By 'chatting' and 'listening' ;I found some similar racing philosphies with some drivers from England. We then set up our own custom race, trying without traction control or abs. I really enjoyed the races, the conversations (Often hilarious); and learning the 'grip' of the cars.

Still getting used to the driving as I often cooked it into a corner and thus an off and ended up last; but with some practice (allowing for not getting the wife too pissed off) I should be able to give'em a race:)

The F1 2010 online custom races and chat really show how online GT5 may work-no more punters! 👍

Oh, you can also bannish drivers; as some race hosts apparently do not like GTP_ handles and boot you out before the race starts!

I am sticking with the GTP_ handle because for me it means clean racing (except for the occasional brain freeze mistake).

Or will their be an F1 Planet soon?

F1_BlacquesJacques?
 
Online is pretty appalling IMO. Only mode worth bothering with is pole position as it tends to be racers who just want to put in good lap times. Grand prix and endurance is full of idiots running into the back of you and crashing you out at the first opportunity. Also found it impossible to join a game when I get an invite (for those who who have sent me invites I'm not ignoring them :))
Going to start creating my own room and set assists off which is how I race and hopefully the crashers with pads will stay away!
 
This game will probably get better online after GT5 releases tbh.

Give it a few months for the kid's to get bored and just leave a few hardcore racers.
It should smooth out then.

Hopefully.
 
To be fair I admit I'm a rubbish driver on there right now and I'm crashing into a few people, on some occasions because I can't judge where their going or if their about to spin off. I attempt to make a clean and fair race so if anyone spots me knock 'em off on the PS3 version, its not because I mean to.
 
I've found racing with the guys at ARL is pretty good, though I did get punted at the start of one race (still came 2nd though)
Also I locked my brakes up on the 1st corner once & got moaned at but it was my fault really.
IF you get guys you know will race fairly whether it be GTP, ARL or anyother forums then Online is in my opinion more fun than the career.
I havent race in open stuff just private invite only races.
 
I must say. I'm one of the many who is just terrible at this game. I keep on spinning when I accelerate out of corners and don't use the whole of the road. But I keep it to myself online. I don't ram into the back of people to make my positions. It makes me really angry. I let my brother play today and first thing he does is go for the aids. He gets angry because he ain't allowed cut the massive 1st corner at Montreal then said the game is bad. I wanted to strangle him. LOL.
 
Best thing to do is just try and stay out of trouble on the first lap and naturally the crap players will be behind you. Most custom GPs end up with 4 people left fighting at the front. It's just making it to there is the hard part.
 
Some people need to have some more patience, jeez. For every race you get the "average player" i.e. one who thinks nothing of punting, you also get a race with someone you can race alongside properly.

I've already had many awesome battles, overtaking, switching back, trading lap times...this game is up there with GT5P and FC in terms of fun on the track itself. Its so nice to be able to run with collisions on and race close to each other, unlike F1:CE.
One of my favourite battles so far was at Valencia, we were swapping places for a whole lap!

Of course there are plenty of punters, but just ignore them and look for the few people who race cleanly, they do exist.

I'm also enjoying both the Quick Race and Custom GP settings. Quick race is a good way of learning all the tracks quickly and watching a turn 1 disaster :lol:. You can set Quick Race to Endurance or Grand Prix though I find its a bit pointless when you can just search for a custom game.

If you can't stand F1 2010 online, you won't be able to stand GT5 online either....there are always going to be punters in public games.
 
I will have this game by the end of this week, and look forward to It, also the online battles with my friens and GTP-members. I hope there is a password-protection possible ?
 
Hi Guys,

Well the online experience is great I have to say. Well if...

Quickmode ist mostly a puntfest. At the start I usually let myself be overtaken and after the first corner mostly you've gained all the places back and punting is almost no issue anymore.

Custom GP, works a lot better. More decent drivers here and also quite a lot of people that are fast and race fair.

Custom GP Invite only: It's a blast. We over at GTRP have almost full lobbies every evening since the release and races are tight and a hell of a blast. 👍👍

Single Player Offline, havent played it jet...:dunce:
 
Yeah, well as I have always said, the problem with racing online is that the majority thinks they are playing destruction derby. I have experienced these nutters, no matter what racing game I play, be it Grid, Shift, Dirt, or even Prologue.

You can't change human nature, but developer's can enforce penalties so that you are severely punished if you simply want to smash into people all the time. What sort of penalties? Well the one that keeps coming to mind is being banned from playing said game on PSN for a set period. And in the case of GT5, having some of the more expensive cars you have accumulated wiped from your garage. Then maybe people will learn to respect other racing gamers.

90% of people who play racing games online just want to race and test their skills against others. Where's the skill in smashing up all the time? Some may argue that it is fun and a laugh, and what games are there for, which is true to a certain extent. Indeed, the demolition derby races in Grid are great fun, and exactly what people like this should be playing. Codemasters should make a whole game based on this sport, just for those individuals!

I say all racing games that have an online mode should have some sort of menu in the usual 'quick race' and 'custom race' screens where you can choose which type of race you want to play in. If there is an option for, say 'Serious Competition', and another one for maybe 'Fun Racing' then people who want to do each can choose.
But this business of just wanting to go online and race, and having mad drivers ruining it for others by simply piling into them at every opportunity needs to stop, now, especially when playing games like F1 where just about everyone who plays it will want a decent, clean race.
 
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Dealing with people who don't play "fairly" on-line is a massive issue for devs. It's pretty much ruined our on-line this year, yet the current design doesn't allow for much room if wanted to ban people. But then that's quite risky as well, it seems a bit harsh to tell someone who bought the game you can't play one part. Besides, on a massive scale, you can't police on-line modes. The best way is setting it up so certain modes appeal to those who don't care much for realism and want some fun (ie, punters) and for those who do want good races. As with every part of a game, finding a balance is quite hard due to the variety of gamers demands.
 
That's why in my comment I suggest there be options in the pre-race lobbies for those who want serious races and who only want to have fun. It should be built into every racng game from now on. But then again, as you say it is difficult because there are always going to be those 'rebels' who will want to choose the serious races and cause havoc.
In any case, developer's take note, as there are a few of us out there who feel this way.
 
Well to be honest, Superstars V8 Next Challenge did a nice job with that. You could watch how many penalties somebody got. A lot of penalties meant shortcutting und driving unsportsmanlike.

I think codies did also do quite well. They made a kind of online ranking. Online players that shortcut, cheat or punt almost don't level up. So you could create lobbies of say from level 20 to level 30 oder level 50 only.

Of course it will sort itself out when time passes by.

Another thing is that putting a community_tag infront of your when (when you deserve it!) makes also a difference.

Most communitydrivers/racers share the same passion so the risk is much much lower and if casualplayers see an name GTP_XX / GTP_XXX /GTP_XXXX, they know that some serious racers are taking part. It often sorts out the behaviour of non_tag players too and in some cases they really really would like to slam you into the wall!

I hope to post a video of our online sessions in a short period. :sly:
 
Well I plan to get the game this week, and I hope to see some of you 'serious' drivers online. I will be sending out friend requests via PSN, so expect to hear from me. Then you can all get revenge for some of the things I have said.......no, forget that! We want to be gentlemen on track.
 
Just did a Custom GP, qualy and race at 10% Spa. I won, yet my profile doesn't show as me winning.

1) Do Custom GPs count towards these? (As in, how you didn't get XP with private races in DIRT2)
2) Or was it because it was part of a championship? Seeing as I left when it went straight on to Korea, cos I really couldn't be bothered to race again.

Nice to not have any punting.
 
doblocruiser
Well to be honest, Superstars V8 Next Challenge did a nice job with that. You could watch how many penalties somebody got. A lot of penalties meant shortcutting und driving unsportsmanlike.

I think codies did also do quite well. They made a kind of online ranking. Online players that shortcut, cheat or punt almost don't level up. So you could create lobbies of say from level 20 to level 30 oder level 50 only.

Of course it will sort itself out when time passes by.

Another thing is that putting a community_tag infront of your when (when you deserve it!) makes also a difference.

Most communitydrivers/racers share the same passion so the risk is much much lower and if casualplayers see an name GTP_XX / GTP_XXX /GTP_XXXX, they know that some serious racers are taking part. It often sorts out the behaviour of non_tag players too and in some cases they really really would like to slam you into the wall!

I hope to post a video of our online sessions in a short period. :sly:
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I didn't like this mentality back on GT5P and I still don't like it now, or rather, I didn't like the mentality it gave birth to - that of elitism. I used to see a lot of people with GTP tags ramming people off track while they were racing other GTP tags just because they didn't have a tag and they were "getting in the way".

I think its good but everyone should always remember that the tags are not everything, simply an assurance that one driver is 100% clean, not that they are the only clean driver in the race....
 
A tag has absolutely nothing to do with elitism!

Let me speak for myself. I have a GTRP tag when racing online. This tag reminds me to behave sportsman like on the track. It also makes others or should make others aware that I try to race 100% clean and behave correctly on track. Sure I can race with a non tag, that's no problem either but Tags came with communities. Still the same driver but yes I enjoy the forum I'm at and I'm proud to drive for this community.

I can't see what it has to do with elitism. When I drive with the TAG I'm nothing more or less than any other driver online. Except, that people who think that I race unfair have to possibillity to address this at the community were I'm driving for.

See nothing wrong with that.

I used to see a lot of people with GTP tags ramming people off track while they were racing other GTP tags just because they didn't have a tag and they were "getting in the way".
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If that's the case the community should act! A tag means also a responsibillity and it is not a privilege!

Kind regards,
doblocruiser
 
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Online racing on this game is ridiculous, doesn't matter what race I go on, where I start on the grid or what I do several idiots always crash into me and ruin my race it's an absolute joke, I can only have a decent race when collisions are turned off. Today I managed to avoid the usual mayhem but on the last lap some moron waited for everyone to come back round and decided to crash into me as many times as he could.

I'm praying PD have come up with some good ideas so we don't have the same thing on GT5 but it’s very difficult to get a penalty system working fairly, I don't expect it to be be perfect but I just hope it’s better than F1 2010.
 
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Hmm, sounds just like how things were/are in GRID. Retards just bashing through turn 1, ruining everyone's race, and parking on the start/finish straight trying to total the rest of the field. As long as this game has a vote to kick option, that problem can be easily sorted out.
 

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