Parkland FL HS shooting, shooter arrested, 17 dead
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It wouldn't bother me to require the age of 21 to legally purchase a gun but the main question is does that make 18-20 year old military service members exempt from it or require a waiver where they can only use US Government property to do their job? Raise minimum age of enlistment to 21?
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I don't know, but a store should be allowed to pick and choose its customers. If the general buying public doesn't agree with it, they won't shop there and either they'll reverse its decision or go out of business.
Here in Utah, certain stores refuse to sell you alcohol - well if you can call it alcohol - if you have someone under the age of 21 with you. While I don't agree with it, I support their right to do it. Same goes for selling guns, if a store wants to set that policy then I don't see why they shouldn't be allowed to.
I also don't agree with the bakers losing the case to not bake something for a same-sex couple. If they don't want to, they shouldn't be forced too. However, if they lose customers because it, then it's their fault.
Can you please be more specific? Which part is the broad generalization?
It's a fact that Dick's is taking that stance, I posted a link to the press release. As for the Facebook comments, I'm merely talking about an observation I saw and asking the question if you support why some supporters of the Constitution are against a free market. It makes no sense to me.
As for ultra-conservatives being a bunch of snowflakes, I think they are. They are no different than ultra-liberals. Just because something goes against what you believe doesn't mean you get to try and force a change. If they truly don't support Dick's decision, then just don't shop there.
I personally don't care what they do and as long as they aren't infringing on a person's right - which they aren't because buying a gun isn't a protected right, only owning one is. Plus the government shouldn't demand a store sells something anyways, because you know if you want Communism, that's how you get Communism.
Another example is the politician from Georgia that's trying to deny Delta tax breaks because they dropped discounts with the NRA. I feel like that's really a poor reason and makes that politician look like a snowflake. Delta is doing it as a business decision, trying to strong arm a company to bow to your beliefs goes against the free market.
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To me it's not about what I think should be allowed under policy it's that you probably can't write your own rules and refuse sales to protected people and not break some sort of anti-discrimination laws kind of like you couldn't refuse sales to say, blacks or gay people. It's really slippery and not sure it'd stand up in court. This might be a state by state thing but it would fall under age discrimination and many states have age discrimination laws on the books.
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Wouldn't this open up a whole bunch of other worm cans? Driving, drinking etc etc.
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Have you heard of this new thing? It's called punctuation and it's all the rage.
Personally, I agree with Joey that businesses should generally be allowed to choose what they sell and that they have a certain right to choose their own customers. Take Ferrari. They actively select who can buy their cars and who can't. It's a business decision they make and it means their cars and brand are viewed as more exclusive, but it also means that they're viewed as a bunch of arseholes by a great many people. At the end of the day it's hard to tell if it makes them more money or not, but it's their decision and that's that.
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Have you heard of this new thing? It's called punctuation and it's all the rage.
Personally, I agree with Joey that businesses should generally be allowed to choose what they sell and that they have a certain right to choose their own customers. Take Ferrari. They actively select who can buy their cars and who can't. It's a business decision they make and it means their cars and brand are viewed as more exclusive, but it also means that they're viewed as a bunch of arseholes by a great many people. At the end of the day it's hard to tell if it makes them more money or not, but it's their decision and that's that.
Is there such a thing as a right to own a Ferrari protected by laws and amendments? Again, I'm not making an argument on what I think should be allowed. It's the legality of said policy.
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That's because there were no cars back then, but I'm sure there is some sneaky lawyer out there who can spin this into a decent case.
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A set-back for teachers with guns?
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ter-georgia-police-respond-to-report-of-shots
http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brief...ter-georgia-police-respond-to-report-of-shots
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As far as I know, age discrimination only affects those who are deemed "too old" and has nothing to do with being "too young". I could be wrong, but in all the workplace training I've had that's what HR says.
If you want the Urban Dictionary definition:
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And I think I've seen enough in the media as well as on social media to form an opinion. In no way did I present it as a fact and will freely admit I used anecdotal evidence to form my opinion.
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Governor Deal kept the tax break to keep Atlanta competitive. It was passed today.
I was talking about this with my dad and as invested in Atlanta as Delta is we doubt they would go anywhere. But the consumer would see a price hike due to higher fuel prices.
Deal did mention something about we'll need to end it at some point so we can match the nation... We'll see when since he'll be gone soon.
As far as Trump and companies raising the age for guns to 21, if they do that. I believe they should raise the military enrollment to 21.
The real snowflakes aren't mature enough to deal with life yet alone a gun...
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I don't agree with raising the military age to 21. There are a lot of kids, including a good friend of mine, who didn't have any idea of what to do with their life, or needed a brand new start, so they felt that the military was their only option. This can actually be a good thing for a lot of people and I wished I did that instead of wasting two years going for a degree I didn't want.
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Why would there be any justifiable link whatsoever between raising the age requirement to legally purchase firearms and the age requirement to enlist for military service? Unless, of course, the two would be connected in an attempt to doom any future legislative efforts for that particular form of gun control.
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Seeing as enlisted individuals aren't going into sporting goods stores or specialty gun stores to purchase the arms they're to use in service, there is no justifiable link between the two. If those left unable to legally carry--in the event of a change in the law--are envious of the enlisted's ability to carry, they can enlist.
The only time an enlisted individual under the age of 21 can drink legally is if they're stationed in a country with a legal drinking age lower than 21. It is level.
What is raising the age to 21 going to do? How is going to help?
When you're 18, you're legally an adult in belgium. If that's the same in the US I don't get why you wouldn't be allowed to drink nor carry a gun, enlist...
On the other hand I'm in favour of sealinh the loopholes in backgroundchecks or lack thereoff. Maybe making those rules a bit more strict wouldn't be wrong. You don't just get your drivers liscense either.
Ow yeah I hope your guys can be stationed in belgium, legal drinking age is 16
When you're 18, you're legally an adult in belgium. If that's the same in the US I don't get why you wouldn't be allowed to drink nor carry a gun, enlist...
On the other hand I'm in favour of sealinh the loopholes in backgroundchecks or lack thereoff. Maybe making those rules a bit more strict wouldn't be wrong. You don't just get your drivers liscense either.
Ow yeah I hope your guys can be stationed in belgium, legal drinking age is 16
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We can't buy a pistol till 21. It really doesn't make any sense.What is raising the age to 21 going to do? How is going to help?
When you're 18, you're legally an adult in belgium. If that's the same in the US I don't get why you wouldn't be allowed to drink nor carry a gun, enlist...
On the other hand I'm in favour of sealinh the loopholes in backgroundchecks or lack thereoff. Maybe making those rules a bit more strict wouldn't be wrong. You don't just get your drivers liscense either.
Ow yeah I hope your guys can be stationed in belgium, legal drinking age is 16
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