Paul Walker dies in a car crash.

[Dennisch]

I crashed a Porsche once, about 12 years ago. The car had a poor service history, just like this one.

Maybe I can join in on all the lawsuits they're firing at Porsche, and make me some money, or make a complete ass out of myself.

 

[TDZdave]

I vaguely remember reading an article somewhere deep in the motorsports internet that Ben Keating lodged a claim to sue the Monterrey sports car club for damages and loses sustained when their Viper GT race car was substantially damaged at the TUSC event, I remember reading in the comments of the article that its standard procedure to do so as part of laying your insurance claim, I'm not researched at all in law and have even less study time in California law, if this is infact true and standard procedure, is the legal action taken on Porsche by Paul's farther nothing more then a procedural act in claiming on Paul's life insurance?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Walker's daughter has settled for $10m with Rodas's estate. The lawsuit against Porsche AG is ongoing.

In fairness nothing will compensate her adequately for the loss of her father or some of the post-accident photoshopping that we all had to live through.

 

[Dennisch]

Porsche themselves should sue all those who are trying to get a buck out of this.

 

[TVR27]

Nobody should be suing Porsche because it is not Porsche's fault. The driver should be in control of a car at all times therefore it is the driver's responsibility to control the car and it is also the driver's responsibility to follow the road rules. Anyone who wants to Sue Porsche to understand the logic and reasoning.

 

[TenEightyOne]

Nobody should be suing Porsche because it is not Porsche's fault. The driver should be in control of a car at all times therefore it is the driver's responsibility to control the car and it is also the driver's responsibility to follow the road rules. Anyone who wants to Sue Porsche to understand the logic and reasoning.

While I agree with the overall gist of your post, have you made yourself aware of the reasons given for the suit against Porsche AG in this instance?

Porsche themselves should sue all those who are trying to get a buck out of this.

There will be two costs figures I think, it's usually the case. If Porsche AG lose (which they shouldn't, surely) the costs they pay will likely be far less than those quoted when costs are awarded from the plaintiff.

 

[Adamgp]

Judge ruled earlier in the week that Porsche not at fault for the accident:
http://jalopnik.com/porsche-isnt-at-fault-for-paul-walkers-deadly-carrera-g-1769181169

Is there another suit against them?

 

[TenEightyOne]

Judge ruled earlier in the week that Porsche not at fault for the accident:
http://jalopnik.com/porsche-isnt-at-fault-for-paul-walkers-deadly-carrera-g-1769181169

Is there another suit against them?

Yes, Walker's daughter is still suing Porsche on similar grounds. I suspect that the outcome will be remarkably similar too.

 

[Robin]

I can't believe the car still had it's original factory tires on it, a car which should really have them replaced every 2 years at most!

The lawyers made $3 million off that settlement, no wonder they are pushing her to sue and sue.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

I can't believe the car still had it's original factory tires on it, a car which should really have them replaced every 2 years at most!

The lawyers made $3 million off that settlement, no wonder they are pushing her to sue and sue.

If the tyres were old, it's the fault of the driver. The factory cannot make the driver change them.

 

[TenEightyOne]

If the tyres were old, it's the fault of the driver. The factory cannot make the driver change them.

Absolutely. Given the amount of legal guff in User Manuals nowadays there'll certainly be a sentence that covers it. Add to that the driver's experience and it should be easy for Porsche's lawyers to demonstrate that he didn't maintain the car as should be expected.

 

[prisonermonkeys]

Absolutely. Given the amount of legal guff in User Manuals nowadays there'll certainly be a sentence that covers it. Add to that the driver's experience and it should be easy for Porsche's lawyers to demonstrate that he didn't maintain the car as should be expected.

I was thinking about it from a more practical point of view - what was Porsche supposed to do, send a team of mechanics out to every single owner?

 

[Tornado]

Well sure. Ferrari occasionally does that with their super amazing flagship cars whether the owner likes it or not. If Porsche had instead sold the Carrera GT with a complicated leasing scheme of questionable shadiness, Paul Walker would still be alive!

 

[ClydeYellow]

Well sure. Ferrari occasionally does that with their super amazing flagship cars whether the owner likes it or not. If Porsche had instead sold the Carrera GT with a complicated leasing scheme of questionable shadiness, Paul Walker would still be alive!

It's not shady, although I have a feeling the contract may be a Vault door stopper. Simply put, Ferrari doesn't sell the XX cars, it only leases them for an indefinite amount of time for an exhorbitant sum of money and with some significant clauses that essentially prevent them from getting the car back if they just "feel like it".

P.S: IIRC the F1 Clienti program works the same way. It wouldn't surprise me - the last thing I'd like to do would be to sell an ex-F1 car to a surprisingly rich moron who forgot to change the tires and had a blowout at 300kph.

 

[Lain]

Is it wrong that every time I see this thread pop up in recent posts, I think "Damn Paul, back at it again with the fiery Porsches"?

...I already know the answer to that. I'll show myself out.

 

[DG_Silva]

Well sure. Ferrari occasionally does that with their super amazing flagship cars whether the owner likes it or not.

But they don't do this with the Enzo or 599, which are the Carrera GT's most direct rivals.

 

[Tornado]

But they don't do this with the Enzo or 599, which are the Carrera GT's most direct rivals.

Thank you for clearing up that an obvious joke might not stand up to direct scrutiny.

 

[DG_Silva]

Thank you for clearing up that an obvious joke might not stand up to direct scrutiny.

Sorry...

 

[McLaren]

It's not shady, although I have a feeling the contract may be a Vault door stopper. Simply put, Ferrari doesn't sell the XX cars, it only leases them for an indefinite amount of time for an exhorbitant sum of money and with some significant clauses that essentially prevent them from getting the car back if they just "feel like it".

P.S: IIRC the F1 Clienti program works the same way. It wouldn't surprise me - the last thing I'd like to do would be to sell an ex-F1 car to a surprisingly rich moron who forgot to change the tires and had a blowout at 300kph.

There may be some confusion here that centers around the well known fact that the factory typically holds onto the cars & has service crews to help run the cars. The reasoning for keeping the cars is mainly because the cars do use data from Ferrari's F1 team to setup & test the cars during the Programme's current run. It's also more convenient to have the factory maintain & eat the cost of transport for a race car than yourself.

However, when the Programme is done with the 599XX & FXX, owners have taken the cars home & a couple have even hit the market later on because they aren't "leased" at all. This does come with the burden of not having a factory team on call, leaving owners basically with a paperweight XX/F1 car they don't know how to set up, & when they do want to get the car ready, they have to ship the car back to Italy or wherever the Clienti Programme is currently running.

All of this makes owning the car pretty pointless which is why most owners let the factory have it back & move on to the current car, ala the FXXK. There is a lengthy thread of a former FXX owner who detailed his yearly journey with the car, debunking several myths (while also reinforcing Ferrari's strict ownership) about the XX cars that gives a great insight into the way it's all run. It ended when he announced he had given the car back to the factory and ordered a FXXK to replace it to take part again with Clienti Programme.