Pay per view programmes
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- Aero-R
Haven't recieved that on my NEWS section yet. I just know that we'll have to pay for the incoming videos, but didn't knew we'd to pay for the already downloaded ones if we desire to replay them.PD are going to charge people to watch the GT-R legend videos after the august 1st update.
Its on the news section.
Anyway I really don't like the idea that Polyphony Digital has about GT TV and all that. It should be a point of the game to get the market... a difference from previous GTs, and not a new thing that you should pay apart from the already paid software (the game). Of course that the production have a cost, but I would like it if it could be obtained on physical discs too and not just on a few videos you'll not see if you're not logget into internet, or using a different account or just lost them with a broken PS3/hard disk error. I honestly don't like to pay for content non-physical (downloads)... I'm one of those from the old skool who likes the material on discs (and the music on vinyls/compact disc and not on net stuff)... and no things you can't use if you're not with a internet connection or the same account you used to buy it. It's less atractive too when it's price is the same that a copy of the physical edition that comes with the manual, the box, and the bluray disc. It's a total crime when they ask the € they ask on the Playstation Store for Gran Turismo 5 Prologue (I paid less on my local store and even get a bonus with the game, and I was even helping that shop). Just my opinion 👍
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Wow, they can charge as much they want. Im not interested .
Thanks
They better put some effort on the online play...( which they do with this update hopefully
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Isnt there a thread already about GT TV?
Thanks
They better put some effort on the online play...( which they do with this update hopefully
) Isnt there a thread already about GT TV?
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- Aero-R
Yep.
The idea of create this thread was due to the thing the autor said (must pay for already download videos if desired to replay) I think. But yeah maybe it could be posted there instead of with a new thread.
EDIT: I just have recieved the NEW now on my GT5P. The 3 video of GT LEGEND are for Pay Per View. And another thing: the video of GT ACADEMY will be erased after the update (the trailer that we've now on GT TV I mean). Anyway, for those interested on have it... there's a better quality version available on Playstation Store since the last month. Get it !
Well guys, I may not be the BIGGEST car enthusiasts, but I will gladly pay to see everything GT TV offers. I live in the USA, I do have satellite programing, but I do not have SPEED channel (automotive/racing). Even If I had, it is mostly NASCAR with other American racing. Sometimes they show the GOOD European endurance racing. So it is not enough for me. GT TV will offer racing all over the world. For sure they will not show the race in full, but they will cover most important ones. I would love to see the Japanese SUPER GT racing, drifting. Or to see the European racing. And I bet GT TV will do just that. I will pay every penny to see more coverage from other countries other then US NASCAR.
After all, PD says it is for real car enthusiasts.
After all, PD says it is for real car enthusiasts.
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I'm with you in the passion for those productions. I would like to pay too, don't get me wrong, but what I don't like is the method.
I would like to have them on disc, official discs that I could buy on the shops.. but since it's not possible for a normal worlwide release on each month what I would like to have is at least the possibility of see it without being connected on internet, to be able to watch it on a TV on other house and so on, and without being logged on the account that I used to bought it. It's just the method what is bad, because the idea of car videos is lovely (I would like SO MUCH to see the JGTC).
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- FoolKiller1979
Wait, so I will have to pay to watch the GT-R vids again?
Time to connect to my PC and record them. It'll free up hard drive space too.
See, I have no qualms with paying for things like Top Gear and race footage. Those are the kinds of things that I don't get to see on my cable plan and paying for the occasional episode or race will likely be cheaper than a huge upgrade in my cable package.
Now these inside looks at different cars and whatnot are basically advertisements for the cars. I won't be buying those.
I am fine with this so long as they aren't putting things in packs so that I end up buying stuff I don't want. But as long as things are a la carte I will not be buying any insider look at certain cars.
As interesting as it is to see Kazunori Yamauchi discussing how cars came to be with the manufacturers and watching him test drive them, he is not Jeremy Clarkson. It is not entertaining enough to be worth much money.
Actually, I may be jumping the gun. I want to see how the pricing works out first. But these PD produced videos would have to be cheap.
And when they say pay-per-view does that mean like a one time viewed rental or is it an owned download?
There are too many questions to make me desire anything aside from occasional Top Gear episodes and some race footage at this time.
I would pay $1.99 for a Top Gear episode and up to $20 for an endurance race (that may increase depending on the race). No more than $10 for a 3 hour race.
Time to connect to my PC and record them. It'll free up hard drive space too.
See, I have no qualms with paying for things like Top Gear and race footage. Those are the kinds of things that I don't get to see on my cable plan and paying for the occasional episode or race will likely be cheaper than a huge upgrade in my cable package.
Now these inside looks at different cars and whatnot are basically advertisements for the cars. I won't be buying those.
I am fine with this so long as they aren't putting things in packs so that I end up buying stuff I don't want. But as long as things are a la carte I will not be buying any insider look at certain cars.
As interesting as it is to see Kazunori Yamauchi discussing how cars came to be with the manufacturers and watching him test drive them, he is not Jeremy Clarkson. It is not entertaining enough to be worth much money.
Actually, I may be jumping the gun. I want to see how the pricing works out first. But these PD produced videos would have to be cheap.
And when they say pay-per-view does that mean like a one time viewed rental or is it an owned download?
There are too many questions to make me desire anything aside from occasional Top Gear episodes and some race footage at this time.
I would pay $1.99 for a Top Gear episode and up to $20 for an endurance race (that may increase depending on the race). No more than $10 for a 3 hour race.
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In the NEWS its called Pay to View, maybe nitpicking... but that's not PPV? ...not an English expert though
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Is your news in English?In the NEWS its called Pay to View, maybe nitpicking... but that's not PPV? ...not an English expert though
If so, then Pay to View sounds more like purchasable while pay per view (PPV) sounds like a rental.
But that is unusual language and so it could mean either way.
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Personally I don't mind paying for content that I would not normally get to see, but I do foresee a possible problem with some of the content they may deliver, for example Top Gear.
I live in the UK, and I pay a full television licence. I have therefore already paid to watch those Top Gear episodes. I don't know for sure, but I think that there are some laws concerning the way that the BBC can raise funds for the programs it makes. I know that they can sell them abroad, but I'm sure that selling BBC content to British consumers is a big no-no.
The BBC is a public service broadcaster, and as such is directly accountable to its licence fee payers. I think that PD and Sony will most definitely NOT be able to charge UK customers for Top Gear Episodes, as they have already provided the money to create the show in the first place.
Check out this excerpt from the BBC Agreement 2006
101. Meaning of commercial services and related expressions
(1) In this Agreement, commercial services means services which are provided, or other
activities which are undertaken, not primarily (or at all) in order to promote the BBCs
Public Purposes, but with a view to generating a profit (regardless of whether the profit,
once generated, will or may be used to fund the promotion of the Public Purposes). This
means that something can be a commercial service even if it also promotes the Public
Purposes, if it is done with a view to generating profit rather than in order to achieve that
promotion.
(2) However, commercial services do not include the following
(a) the selling of assets or of excess capacity in the BBCs resources held for use by the
BBCs Public Services;
(b) the provision of facilities and services which are ancillary to the provision of the
BBCs Public Services and in respect of which any charge is imposed primarily for
the purpose of recovering the costs or expenses of the provision, even if other factors
(for example, rounding the charge for convenience) make a profit likely;
(c) licensing or otherwise disposing of rights in anything created for the purposes of the
BBCs Public Services;
(d) sub-licensing or otherwise disposing of rights which are not required for the
promotion of the Public Purposes and which were acquired incidentally by the BBC
Of course, PD could circumvent this by offering Top Gear downloads free to British licence payers. In fact, there are no 'coulds' about it, they would have to, by law!
I live in the UK, and I pay a full television licence. I have therefore already paid to watch those Top Gear episodes. I don't know for sure, but I think that there are some laws concerning the way that the BBC can raise funds for the programs it makes. I know that they can sell them abroad, but I'm sure that selling BBC content to British consumers is a big no-no.
The BBC is a public service broadcaster, and as such is directly accountable to its licence fee payers. I think that PD and Sony will most definitely NOT be able to charge UK customers for Top Gear Episodes, as they have already provided the money to create the show in the first place.
Check out this excerpt from the BBC Agreement 2006
101. Meaning of commercial services and related expressions
(1) In this Agreement, commercial services means services which are provided, or other
activities which are undertaken, not primarily (or at all) in order to promote the BBCs
Public Purposes, but with a view to generating a profit (regardless of whether the profit,
once generated, will or may be used to fund the promotion of the Public Purposes). This
means that something can be a commercial service even if it also promotes the Public
Purposes, if it is done with a view to generating profit rather than in order to achieve that
promotion.
(2) However, commercial services do not include the following
(a) the selling of assets or of excess capacity in the BBCs resources held for use by the
BBCs Public Services;
(b) the provision of facilities and services which are ancillary to the provision of the
BBCs Public Services and in respect of which any charge is imposed primarily for
the purpose of recovering the costs or expenses of the provision, even if other factors
(for example, rounding the charge for convenience) make a profit likely;
(c) licensing or otherwise disposing of rights in anything created for the purposes of the
BBCs Public Services;
(d) sub-licensing or otherwise disposing of rights which are not required for the
promotion of the Public Purposes and which were acquired incidentally by the BBC
Of course, PD could circumvent this by offering Top Gear downloads free to British licence payers. In fact, there are no 'coulds' about it, they would have to, by law!
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I hate it, why would they give anything away for free if some people are stupid enough to pay for it. That is what is wrong with current gen consoles. Next step is they will be asking people to pay for car packs, like in Forza.
magburner
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Oh, trust me on this one, they will!
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License restrictions.
Outside of the shows that PD is producing themselves, these shows are owned by someone else. Someone put up money to record and produce these shows and races and you think they shouldn't be compensated for that when their audience expands?
Television producers are not charity entertainers. I can guarantee that if PD didn't agree to charge for this then most of it wouldn't be made available to them.
I mean, that's like saying people are stupid enough to pay for games and that is why they charge us for them.
I guess the best comparison would be the Greatest Hits games. They get discounted because they sold enough to turn a nice profit and have been out long enough to have sales slump. So they discount the price to get a few late comers and budget restricted gamers to buy them.
These shows on GTTV have all made their run on broadcast and now there is an option for those of us who couldn't see them to now see them. So, for cheaper than subscribing to some online service or a cable package we get a chance to see them.
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Top Gear was on JP game for free lol. A tremendous boring TV show imo id never pay for btw.
@ Foolkiller : Yes its in English and it says Pay To View, that's typical for PD messing up those little details... lol as long the cars are shiny
Edit: Not sure about the licence stuff, i mean there are licence fees to pay somehow .
I just don't get people who pay for that vids, honestly for cars and tracks ok, but lousy ads like the GTR inside whatever, why would anyone want to pay for ???
@ Foolkiller : Yes its in English and it says Pay To View, that's typical for PD messing up those little details... lol as long the cars are shiny
Edit: Not sure about the licence stuff, i mean there are licence fees to pay somehow .
I just don't get people who pay for that vids, honestly for cars and tracks ok, but lousy ads like the GTR inside whatever, why would anyone want to pay for ???
SpiffyDeezy
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Wow, they can charge as much they want. Im not interested .
Thanks
They better put some effort on the online play...( which they do with this update hopefully
Isnt there a thread already about GT TV?
Why is almost EVERYONE on this forum ALWAYS in a way " tattle taling " on each others threads ? SO what if thres already a thread posted, they're always going to be doing that no matter what so why doesn't every body just let the thread close instead of making a free post ???????????
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Why is almost EVERYONE on this forum ALWAYS in a way " tattle taling " on each others threads ? SO what if thres already a thread posted, they're always going to be doing that no matter what so why doesn't every body just let the thread close instead of making a free post ???????????
Oh dear,that wasn't the tone of my post and also not my intention. I just tried to say i couldn't care less about GT TV ( currently ). This topic would've perfectly matched an already existing thread imo.
You know just for effectiveness.
Oh and I think you just made a hell of a 'free post'
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GT_Fanatic
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GT-TV... pfft. Before PD start asking for my money, then they best sort out the online bumper car fiasco first off.
hmm, i should double-check in my news section (im at work)
but the GT5P website does say Pay Per View rather than Pay to View (i would much prefer the latter).
Gran Turismo TV
- Start of PPV (Pay Per View) service
- It is now possible to fast forward, rewind, or move between chapters when viewing video content.
- It is possible now to have up to 8 simultaneous background downloads running at the same time.
- Individual downloads can now be paused or resumed.
but the GT5P website does say Pay Per View rather than Pay to View (i would much prefer the latter).
Gran Turismo TV
- Start of PPV (Pay Per View) service
- It is now possible to fast forward, rewind, or move between chapters when viewing video content.
- It is possible now to have up to 8 simultaneous background downloads running at the same time.
- Individual downloads can now be paused or resumed.
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I don't know if this has been posted, but there is a newspost on the Japanese GT website, saying there will be a 10 Yen trial campaign. The normal price for a Top Gear episode will be 300 Yen, each episode of the "GT-R Legend Inside Story" will be 200 Yen. Which is completely out of proportion:
1 Top Gear episode= 300 Yen for 50 minutes
THE GT-R Legend INSIDE STORY I= 200 Yen for 11 minutes
Anyway, here is the link: http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/gt5p/news/d2353.html Use babelfish or google to translate.
1 Top Gear episode= 300 Yen for 50 minutes
THE GT-R Legend INSIDE STORY I= 200 Yen for 11 minutes
Anyway, here is the link: http://www.gran-turismo.com/jp/gt5p/news/d2353.html Use babelfish or google to translate.
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Checked mine (NA version) and it says Pay Per View. Hurm.Top Gear was on JP game for free lol. A tremendous boring TV show imo id never pay for btw.
@ Foolkiller : Yes its in English and it says Pay To View, that's typical for PD messing up those little details... lol as long the cars are shiny
Yeah, I can understand PD wanting to get some of their production money back on that, but I would think that for free it could be a big incentive to get people to buy the game. But then the car manufacturers could want some cash too for allow Pd in at all.
My News says that even if you have downloaded them they won't be viewable again without paying for them.
So it looks like possibly $2.99 and $1.99 US. That is a bit steep for a TV show, and even more so for a partial infomercial. They should stick to the PS Store's video service pricing.
Now, if it is $1.99 for the entire GT-R video series, then that is more reasonable.
Still, I am iffy about paying for infomercials.
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I think programmes like TopGear will be priced around £2.00 an episode. I believe this because on the TV Programme section on iTunes - the BBC Worldworld section prices an epiosde at £1.89... i dont think the price will change to much from this.
The only way it could change is if its pay PER veiw where you will be renting the episode to watch.
The only way it could change is if its pay PER veiw where you will be renting the episode to watch.
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Hmmmm... Why would you pay for Top Gear episodes when you can go to finalgear.com and download all episodes from 2002 til now for free?? And theyre even in pretty good quality as well... 700 MB for recent episodes... Oh well... if you want to pay for it you can... its your money LOL
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