Penny Dreadful - Currency Discussion

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Do you think the penny, or lowest subunit of your own currency, should be scrapped?


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Wonder if it will have the thistles on it like the three-pence coins did. Maybe not, have a few of them in my collection...defiantly a unique thickness and shape.

The threepence is a great little coin. Preferred the design after the thistle, the one with the port cullis.
 
I actually like the current £1 coin, but 30+ years is enough time for a change.

I never minded the round Pound. Some of the late-90s designs like the dragon passant looked nice, and the latest floral emblems are more reminiscent of the old royal diadems which I also liked.

I can imagine the first tails side of the future coin having a less simplistic design than what we have right now though. The public will probably vote for something more memorable and creative.

You know those MMXIV are not going to get into the production coins.

Clearly. Although I wonder if there's any chance we'll see a 2014 proto-Pound like the one Osborne Tweeted being flogged somewhere soon. Or would a coin with a pre-issue year stamped on it like that one be melted down/put on display?
 
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Screw this silly shield nonsense. I have a £1 from 1988 with the shield on it, identical to the way the current £1 makes up the design of the other 6 coins. So it's not even that original.

Up until 2008 we had over 300 years of Britannia on at least one coin. Bring her back and put her on the £1.
 
Up until 2008 we had over 300 years of Britannia on at least one coin. Bring her back and put her on the £1.

Boo, southerners! We don't want her, she's the badge of the invaders, a result of political spin before spin was spun. We Celts would rather have anything but Britannia. Or Piers Morgan.
 
Boo, southerners! We don't want her, she's the badge of the invaders, a result of political spin before spin was spun. We Celts would rather have anything but Britannia. Or Piers Morgan.

I'm actually from North Wales.

I was only talking in numismatic terms. Money looks better with Britannia on it. It is an aesthetically appealing design for coins. In the same vein, I'm a republican but having monarchs on the money means it's fun to find one of each LSD with their heads on it. Especially seeing as the Queen has had four different head shots over old pence and new pence.

Got at least one farthing, halfpenny, penny, threepence, sixpence, shilling, florin and half crown for George VI and Elizabeth II as well as at least one farthing, halfpenny and penny for Victoria, Edward VII and George V.
 
I'm actually from North Wales.

Like I said, a Southerner! :D I'm based in Manchester at the moment which is exactly in the midlands (height-wise), so I know where South is! :D

Yeah, we might as well have Britannia, as you pointed out we already have that mad old German woman :\
 
...it's fun to find one of each LSD with their heads on it. Especially seeing as the Queen has had four different head shots over old pence and new pence.

With Canadian money, there's technically 5 (the 2nd portrait has a large and small variety), and George VI has two obverses (with and without IND:IMP), so I find that to be a fun way to start each series. 👍
 
The one penny and two pence coins of the pound sterling are safe "for now".

An interesting note from the article is that 2017 was the point in history where cashless transactions took over cash transactions in the UK. But as the article says, cash payments and access to tangible, liquid cash is a necessity for 8 million people; these groups include both the elderly and those who live in very rural communities, to which I am not surprised given the number of bank closures in rural areas over the past few years.
 
To drag this up from the depths a bit...

"Here's the budget, BLAH BLAH TORY CUT BLAH WHISPER WHISPER, and look, magpies, a shiny NEW COIN!"

I actually like the current £1 coin, but 30+ years is enough time for a change.

As someone who worked in a shop for a good number of years the number of fake or suspect £1 coins I has handed or found in the till was pretty high. Because it was so basic and fairly high value (for the work to fake it) you got hundreds of them. Some where better than others, but trying to tell the difference between a worn old £1 coin and a fake wasn't always very easy. Much harder than fake notes for example.
 
As someone who worked in a shop for a good number of years the number of fake or suspect £1 coins I has handed or found in the till was pretty high. Because it was so basic and fairly high value (for the work to fake it) you got hundreds of them. Some where better than others, but trying to tell the difference between a worn old £1 coin and a fake wasn't always very easy. Much harder than fake notes for example.

There was a couple of easy giveaways on the old pound coin, alignment of the front and rear faces, concentricity of the outer bands, and whether the edge engraving was etched or 'milled' are quick giveaways, but I agree, notes were easier to tell.
 
There was a couple of easy giveaways on the old pound coin, alignment of the front and rear faces, concentricity of the outer bands, and whether the edge engraving was etched or 'milled' are quick giveaways, but I agree, notes were easier to tell.

Eh, it was never that easy when you’re given a fist full of change.

Notes where easy because soon as you felt it you’d know it was fake
 
I'm collecting 'rare' 50p coins but they are hard to come by in everyday life, not least because I don't use cash for much these days.

However, I discovered a neat trick to find unusual 50p coins - vending machines. If you put 50p in a vending machine and then hit the refund button, you usually get a different 50p coin back. The first time I tried it, I got no less than 3 non-standard coins, but since then I've had little success... until last night... I raided the vending machine in the building where my old office is and got a staggering 5 collectible coins, including one of the rarest Olympic 50p coins.

Of course, I look incredibly suspicious when I'm trying to convert a standard coin for a collectible one, but so far no-one has asked me what the hell I'm doing :lol:
 
If you put 50p in a vending machine and then hit the refund button, you usually get a different 50p coin back.

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If you get the Kew Gardens or Isaac Newton 50p, uh... just give them to me. They're not that important.
 
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If you get the Kew Gardens or Isaac Newton 50p, uh... just give them to me. They're not that important.
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Nice try.

I also have a stack of 10p and 20p coins that I'm converting into 50p coins using this trick - so far I'm getting at least one new coin a day, but I fear that the low hanging fruit is almost gone.
 
At my last count, I have €148 in €2 coins. Most are the commemorative ones and the others are just rare ones that you don't see very often like Greece, Malta and Luxemburg.

I'll have to check what my 50ps look like. I don't think I ever collected too many of the commemorative ones. I was always more interested in having all of the Queen's possible profiles on a particular design.
 
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How many different versions are there, do you know?
AFAIK, there are at least 52 different 50p coins currently in circulation, plus many more uncirculated ones. There are two 'standard' coins (the old version and the new one), plus 50 others that are of varying scarcity.
 
I've only managed to get one commemorative each of 50p and €2. Of course, my obstacle is not wanting to pay a significant premium for them, but they do very rarely pop up in lots of foreign coins I buy.
 
AFAIK, there are at least 52 different 50p coins currently in circulation, plus many more uncirculated ones. There are two 'standard' coins (the old version and the new one), plus 50 others that are of varying scarcity.

Fascinating, out of comparison I checked the Australian 50c coin and counted 33 different coins apart from the standard coin issued in different years.
Had no idea there was that many yet probably had one in my hand at some stage as they all look familiar.
 
I'm collecting 'rare' 50p coins but they are hard to come by in everyday life, not least because I don't use cash for much these days.

However, I discovered a neat trick to find unusual 50p coins - vending machines. If you put 50p in a vending machine and then hit the refund button, you usually get a different 50p coin back. The first time I tried it, I got no less than 3 non-standard coins, but since then I've had little success... until last night... I raided the vending machine in the building where my old office is and got a staggering 5 collectible coins, including one of the rarest Olympic 50p coins.

Of course, I look incredibly suspicious when I'm trying to convert a standard coin for a collectible one, but so far no-one has asked me what the hell I'm doing :lol:

That's a good tip, I'll have to give that a try, especially if I visit the UK.
 
AFAIK, there are at least 52 different 50p coins currently in circulation, plus many more uncirculated ones. There are two 'standard' coins (the old version and the new one), plus 50 others that are of varying scarcity.

Yes there are probably more than that since they've gone mad with them in recent years with whole sets of them, makes it hard to get them all. I kind of collect any sort of coin but not in a serious sort of collector way, like asking shops to save them, as I've heard people do, or playing around with vending machines. :lol:

So far I have 29 different 50p coins, of course the rarer ones are mostly the ones I'm missing. :drool:
 
YI kind of collect any sort of coin but not in a serious sort of collector way, like asking shops to save them, as I've heard people do, or playing around with vending machines. :lol:
I've stopped short of asking vendors to put them aside for me, but I have been tempted.

Yesterday I got two more 50ps for my collection, but this week I've also accrued a bottle of Lilt, a can of Irn Bru, a packet of Starburst and a £1.30 mocha (while it was 27 degrees outside) from machines that wouldn't give me my coin back.
 
I've stopped short of asking vendors to put them aside for me, but I have been tempted.

Yesterday I got two more 50ps for my collection, but this week I've also accrued a bottle of Lilt, a can of Irn Bru, a packet of Starburst and a £1.30 mocha (while it was 27 degrees outside) from machines that wouldn't give me my coin back.


Can you get a bank cashier to give you money (from your own account - not from pointing a banana through a jacket pocket at her/him) as a bag of 50p pieces?
 
Can you get a bank cashier to give you money (from your own account - not from pointing a banana through a jacket pocket at her/him) as a bag of 50p pieces?
Yes, I did try that but had no luck - I got a bag of 40 50ps and none of them were collectible (in fact they were all the standard issue old and new 50ps...) Felt like a bit of a pillock going back an hour later to put them back into my account.
 
(in fact they were all the standard issue old and new 50ps...)

About 60% of all 50ps you'll find are 1997 ones. If you've got a Britannia 50p it is likely to be 1997. That was the year they introduced the new, thinner 50p and so they needed to mint enough to replace all the then-existing 50ps as well as the regular mint they would otherwise do for that year. You can find other years of the Britannia 50p but more often than not, they're 1997 ones.

The shield design (hate it) was introduced in... 2008, I think?
 
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