People Keep Buying crappy cars ....

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Originally posted by vat_man
Or alternatively set themselves alight - it's a genuine alternative.

Kia issued a recall here today - apparently their seatbelts might become unbuckled in a collision. As if the poor build and underdamping wasn't enough, you might smack your head on their hard, shiny interior plastics. Tough eulogy.

i've been in many "collisions" in my Kia and seat belt never came undone.:D
 
Originally posted by Josh
Well, whoever owns the blue one - they sure did a good job of parking it.👍

:D :lol: :lol: :lol:


Funny .. Yeah he must of been drunk..

Well he [a man that can't park :odd: ] only has on peace of junk thats enough

He used to have an old Pontiac 6000 before ...

:lol: :lol: :lol:
 
my family had a hiunday scoupe and it work so nice,we put 60-70k miles and never had any problem.

the people who buy a bmw and they are so carefull about it and treat so gentely,they normaly have another car or just have a nice job in a office (so the car is parked most of the time)

vs the people who buy a huinday sometimes is the only car in the family,so the car is used by two or maybe more persons,so the car got more mileage on it., and sometimes they don't even have the money to make a tune up or fix any litle problem on it.(so with the time that could transform in a wors problem)

if you are a stupid kid and i give you a huinday you could say let's ride this piece of crap (and treat the car like that).but if i give you a bmw you quickly said "oh my god is a bmw" and treat the car better than you do with your gilrfriend...

both cars are so nice but if you used like a crap and the other like a virgin what should be on better condition with the time ?

example: my family old scoupe (driven by afew of us) didn't have any problem vs my friend honda acord (less than 30k miles on it) go a few times on the dealer,two by the transm,one for the a.c,once for the power windows and afew more things.

with that example can you say honda is better than huinday ?
 
Duke, do your license plates really read:

"All your base are belong to us?"

And what is your fascination with that saying.
I actually heard that saying in the Socom US Navy Seals game when someone accidentally blew up there own base.

Why Duke, why? :D
 
Actually, I Photochopped that when I was considering getting those as vanity tags a few years ago. If it wasn't like $30/year/car I probably would have.

Have you heard/seen the "All Your Base" animation, and do you know the back story? I just think it's really funny... one of those 1337 'net things, but that doesn't require illegible BBS shorthand.
 
Originally posted by PunkRock
Volkswagen offers 10 year warranties on all models, does it mean they're not confident?
Um no. . . Actually VW in America does not offer a 10 year warranty. Last VW I sold had a 4 year 50,000 mile warranty on it and the drivetrain, not to include the 12 year corrosion warranty on the car.


Originally posted by MazKid
That's VW, and a lot of people, including the mechanics, don't like the cars.
Really??? Is that why most VW customers are loyal to the company after they owned their first. hmm, well here is a .pdf that you can view over satisfaction and loyalty http://www.millwill.com/members/2002-Sat-Loyalty.pdf
and that was in 2002.
Back in 2000, the "Gen-X" Hype showed the below average loyalty in customers with car brands and the top five did not included the Big 3, here is a quote off a website with following url
Generation X Appeal -- Top 5 Makes*
Percent of New-Vehicle Buyers Under Age of 35
1. Isuzu
26.83%
2. Mitsubishi
25.68%
3. Land Rover
23.90%
4. KIA
23.88%
5. Volkswagen
22.80%
http://www.polk.com/news/releases/2000_0118.asp

Here is another report done in Nov. 2002 about leading their respective field in Loyalty
The report also identifies the leaders in each industry who understand customer value the best and are perceived by their customers to be leaders in satisfaction and loyalty. Dell (NASDAQ:DELL) ranked the highest in the PC Industry, Yahoo! (NASDAQ: YHOO) and Ebay (NASDAQ:EBAY) for E-Commerce, Microsoft (NASDAQ:MSFT) and Siebel (NASDAQ:SEBL) for Software, Toyota (NYSE:TM) and Volkswagen for Automotive, HBO (NYSE:AOL) and Cingular (NYSE: SBC) (NYSE: BLS) for the Telecom industry.

http://www.businesswire.com/webbox/bw.111302/223170085.htm
here is a site to discuss some VWs if you will. What I am getting aqt Mazkid, I know your loyal to Mazda. To make an association about a company and their clients without any reason or support is just wrong. You may not like them, you town may not like them. You city may not like them, but you just made a statemnt implementing everyone as a whole which the numbers prove wrong. I can go on and on and find more sites and sites that are newer, but I think a short span of history is better at showing the whole picture then a document coming out now.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Or alternatively set themselves alight - it's a genuine alternative.

Kia does own Hyundai, remember, though Hyundai has built a far better reputation in this country.

However, Elantra has no twin in this country - I personally think it's one of the better small-car segment buys.

Is that why most VW customers are loyal to the company after they owned their first.

VW people are generally the same type of people, as are Saab people, hence the returns. I'd bet a zillion dollars that more Saab owners voted Green in 2000 than voted Republican.
 
Originally posted by M5Power

VW people are generally the same type of people, as are Saab people, hence the returns. I'd bet a zillion dollars that more Saab owners voted Green in 2000 than voted Republican.
Ok and why do they do that? What I am trying to do here is justify a generalization made about a company that was false in a general POV. I agree that there is a certain breed of people that have the mentality that "It ain't broke, don't fix it." If you ever worked car sales then you would know the importance of customer satisfaction over the product. I bet 9 times out of ten if you have a bad experience with a company, product, person, you don't want to invovle yourself with that again. I know you are very proficient with business if I remember correctly and I am pretty sure you know more about customer sat. then product.


note: I agree totally with the same type of people :D
 
Originally posted by M5Power
'Cos the same people gravitate toward the same things, based on similar life experiences.
Exactly, now going to that pic of the Elentras, why do you think four people have the same car?
 
Originally posted by miata13B
Exactly, now going to that pic of the Elentras, why do you think four people have the same car?

I bet they're company cars, or the people are related, actually, rather than anything else.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
I bet they're company cars, or the people are related, actually, rather than anything else.
Likely yes, another possiblity is that one person bought from person A, Person A did an excellent job on selling himself, selling his service, selling his company and the car sold itself. That last part meaning the client test drove it and decided that they fell in love with it. Then the Client told that to their neighbors and voila, four exact cars :lol:
 
Nice deductions ppl. But I think the thread has been started to state the point that People Keep Buying Crappy cars :P It doesnt ask why they bought the cars... sort of a waste of thinking there. :rolleyes:

Anyhow Im a VW owner, little Golf CL 1995. In essence its a crappy car, but with suspension mods, its a BEAST around the corners. Its actually funny to see what this 100 hp Golf can do to much more powerful cars in curves :)

So hey, ppl might buy crappy cars, but if they know how to have fun with them, who cares if their cars suck?
 
Originally posted by T13R

who cares if their cars suck?

They don't suck. For some reason, Sparxxx thinks they suck, though he's clearly not taken a look at his own vehicle recently.

In any event, we've all got different preferences, and some are limited by various factors (space, money, safety, warranty). It's hard to say a car is 'crappy' for somebody else who might have completely different needs than you.
 
Originally posted by M5Power
They don't suck. For some reason, Sparxxx thinks they suck, though he's clearly not taken a look at his own vehicle recently.
:lol: said like a champ :D. What is the definition of a crappy car? A car's purpose is to get from point A to point B to be simple with it. Cars have been designed and re-engineered through time. With this in mind there are the few radicals that believe that a normal car just won't do. That is most of us that post here. We want performance or stereo or the driving experience. You can't define any car a crappy car. Even the old cars that are in shambles. The reason is that car in shambles at one point or another did its duty for its owner. Most of us here though don't r4eally even think about that aspect. We have a higher standard in cars. Now Sparxxx has a real high standard in cars and it shows becuase he is calling an Elentra a crappy car. Now if the car is bogged down with problems, that is life. It happens and you get a lemon. No matter what the Dealer says to prevent that, you know it is a lemon the first problem you have with it. This thread is fundementally based off one's opinion. You can't stab the guy for feeling this way, but hopefully it will open another perspective for him. :D
 
When I was younger and thought it was realistic to expect that I'd be rich any second, I said all sorts of stupid crap, too. Everybody told me to take the money I spent on some used "cool" car and use it as a down payment on a new one. but I couldn't afford a "cool" new car. I guess at the time I didn't mind paying for constant repairs, or the inconvenience it causes. Now I just need to make sure my wife can get to work every day. The 91 Sentra that the 2002 Elantra replaced was a "crappy" car. But compared to a BMW or even the "poor-man's-BMW", VW, it's cheap. But it is not a crappy car. I hope all you teenagers are wealthy when you grow up and have to buy your own cars. When you're sitting at the finance manager's desk and he tells you what your monthly payment will be, your opinion will change quickly. Trust me.

And MazKid, you really need to shut up. You don't know anything about anything. How is anyone who hangs ten year old magazine ads on their wall to be taken seriously at all? Your obsession with a hum-drum, oh-so-average car maker is unhealthy. Not everybody's daddy is a mechanic who can fix everything for free.
 
Originally posted by f50
my family had a hiunday scoupe and it work so nice,we put 60-70k miles and never had any problem.

the people who buy a bmw and they are so carefull about it and treat so gentely,they normaly have another car or just have a nice job in a office (so the car is parked most of the time)

if you are a stupid kid and i give you a huinday you could say let's ride this piece of crap (and treat the car like that).but if i give you a bmw you quickly said "oh my god is a bmw" and treat the car better than you do with your gilrfriend...

Maybe you and others, but this doesnt apply to alot of people. Like me and my uncle for example. If its nice and shiny and has lots of power, we like it. Some people drive cars harder than others. When Im in a BMW, I dont think "OMG, Im in a BMW, hopefully I dont break anything", Im most likely thinking, "I wonder if he will let me drive it hard" or that im in a wonderfully engineered german automobile tested on the autobahn where cars are made to take flipovers and wrecks at speeds that exceed into the triple digits.

My uncles opinion on how good a car performs is somewhat different to how some people make an opinion on a car. He used this formula:

The amount of fun he has while doing a donut in it x How long it takes for something to break by making the car do abnormal things + how angry the salesman gets after he returns it to the dealership after the testdrive :lol: :P j/k

^That is a joke for the people too dumb to see the smilies and the "j/k" symbol at the end of the sentence.
 
Originally posted by milefile

And MazKid, you really need to shut up. You don't know anything about anything. How is anyone who hangs ten year old magazine ads on their wall to be taken seriously at all? Your obsession with a hum-drum, oh-so-average car maker is unhealthy. Not everybody's daddy is a mechanic who can fix everything for free.

But a 10 year Warranty means the company doesn't have confidence in their product, right?

Hey, I think I heard another Apex Seal blow.

All things aside, I'm a fan of the new 6s and I'm more than a little curious about the new RX-7.
 
Originally posted by SaleenASL
But a 10 year Warranty means the company doesn't have confidence in their product, right?

Hey, I think I heard another Apex Seal blow.

All things aside, I'm a fan of the new 6s and I'm more than a little curious about the new RX-7.

I would more read that as a company trying to build consumer confidence in their product. From a warranty cost point of view that would suggest to me they have confidence in their product - imagine the cost if they all blow up when they're eight years old!

They've taken some big steps quality-wise in the last four years - the fact that they had a car in GT Concept would suggest to me that they're working hard to change perceptions about the company.

I wouldn't buy one at the moment, but I can understand why non-car people do buy them. They seem to be reasonably well screwed together now, and as mentioned above feature and price-wise they're pretty hard to beat. If you're don't care much about driving, and just want cheap, functional transport with some nice features, yeah, they're worth a look. Not everyone wants nor needs top line performance and handling.

It's worth bearing in mind that everyone has their own perspective.
 
Originally posted by milefile


And MazKid, you really need to shut up. You don't know anything about anything. How is anyone who hangs ten year old magazine ads on their wall to be taken seriously at all? Your obsession with a hum-drum, oh-so-average car maker is unhealthy. Not everybody's daddy is a mechanic who can fix everything for free.

I missed you this weekend! :)
 
Originally posted by vat_man
as mentioned above feature and price-wise they're pretty hard to beat.

How long is the warranty on them in Australia? I know in the UK the maximum was just set at five years, and I think 50,000 miles - US it's ten years, 100,000 miles.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
I would more read that as a company trying to build consumer confidence in their product.

As do I. I was merely making reference to an earlier MazKid post.

I decided to take a slightly more gentle approach than did Milefile.
 
Milefile-

You think Mazda is like every other company? So every other company uses Rotary engine...every other company has a world reknown slogan...every other company reinvented the roadster...

And Hyundia is so inventive! What's unique about them?

What has to be unique? I've been around Mazdas all my life and I'm more than happy with thier products.

And I'm sorry my hobby offends you. I forgot that there are a cirtain few on the net that show unhealthy interest in other's lifes. Sure, I'm not an avarage teen, but do you really want more teens who drive automatic Civics with crap put on them driving like idiots and causing you grief?

But since it makes you angry I'll take down those magazine ads, even though I'm 997 miles from my house.

And my dad? What do you have on him? Does it piss you off that a person considerably older than you has a career that he's the best at? Just today at the end of the Galveston Seawall a family was locked out of thier Corolla and my dad spent the time to get back into the car for them?

And he doesn't do his job for free...that would be stupid.

I'm not mad at you...you just don't like seeing other people striving in life while you aren't. But that's ok...
 
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