People Keep Buying crappy cars ....

[milefile]

Originally posted by MazKid
Milefile-

You think Mazda is like every other company? So every other company uses Rotary engine...every other company has a world reknown slogan...every other company reinvented the roadster...

They have a slogan?!

And Hyundia is so inventive! What's unique about them?

They offer a reliable, quality product at an affordable price and stand behind it.

And I'm sorry my hobby offends you. I forgot that there are a cirtain few on the net that show unhealthy interest in other's lifes. Sure, I'm not an avarage teen, but do you really want more teens who drive automatic Civics with crap put on them driving like idiots and causing you grief?

I didn't see any stupid posts by Honda fans.

But since it makes you angry I'll take down those magazine ads, even though I'm 997 miles from my house.

Really? For me?

And my dad? What do you have on him? Does it piss you off that a person considerably older than you has a career that he's the best at? Just today at the end of the Galveston Seawall a family was locked out of thier Corolla and my dad spent the time to get back into the car for them?

Good for you. My dad was a printer before he retired. So If some damsel in distress needed a couple million catalogs or newspaper inserts he could step up. You see, some people have to pay to have their cars repaired, although I haven't since I got a Hyundai.

And he doesn't do his job for free...that would be stupid.

Of course it would.

]I'm not mad at you...you just don't like seeing other people striving in life while you aren't. But that's ok...

No it's not. You've really showed me the error in my ways. I am going to buy a Mazda with a rotary engine and the slogan painted on the side. Then I will finish highschool and wallpaer my bedroom with old magazine ads.

I am humbled.

 

[MazKid]

Ohh so he takes the smartass approach. Hmm...

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by MazKid
Ohh so he takes the smartass approach. Hmm...

It's actually a mix. Here, since you don't appear to be able to pick out sarcasm, I'll help you out.

They have a slogan?!: sarcastic

They offer a reliable, quality product at an affordable price and stand behind it: not sarcastic

I didn't see any stupid posts by Honda fans: might be sarcastic

Really? For me?: sarcastic

Good for you. My dad was a printer before he retired. So If some damsel in distress needed a couple million catalogs or newspaper inserts he could step up. You see, some people have to pay to have their cars repaired, although I haven't since I got a Hyundai: not sarcastic

Of course it would: might be sarcastic

No it's not. You've really showed me the error in my ways. I am going to buy a Mazda with a rotary engine and the slogan painted on the side. Then I will finish highschool and wallpaer my bedroom with old magazine ads.

I am humbled : sarcastic

So really only three out of my seven comments were "smartass". Hmm...

 

[Zrow]

Back on topic, I have a 2001 Hyundai Tiburon. I was in the market for much cheaper cars, so when my parents found this and offered to help me pay for it (it had a salvage title, so I got it much less than normal) it was hard to say no. In any case, I like it a lot. Theres a few things I need to do, mostly because the kind of did a half-assed job when repairing it after an accident that occured before I bought it, but its in good shape. I know it's not the best quality and doesn't contain so many options (although quite a bit), but it's good for me. I think that Hyundai is defintely getting there stuff together, and from the looks at how many people actually own Hyundais, aren't that crappy anymore.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Zrow
Back on topic,

I like this topic!

I think that Hyundai is defintely getting there stuff together, and from the looks at how many people actually own Hyundais, aren't that crappy anymore.

It doesn't matter what you think to the die-hard Hyundai haters - don't worry, though, they'll come around - the product is just getting better and better. Even Consumer Reports, the single most biased source of journalism (more biased than the Aryan Nation's member newsletter) named the Elantra one of the best in the small sedan class.

Granted, I still can't see why people buy the Santa Fe when a comparably equipped Escape is $2k-$3k less. I would use this opportunity to knock the owners of XG350s, but I haven't seen an XG350 for several months. Definitely a good used buy, but not if you can find a '96 Acura RL for under $20k. Still, both are severely competent.

They have a slogan?!

Haven't you seen the 'zoom-zoom' ads? Jeeze, turn on your TV.

So really only three out of my seven comments were "smartass".

That's still something like 45%, my man. I would excuse two of seven, but three is borderline inexcusable.

 

[vat_man]

Originally posted by M5Power
How long is the warranty on them in Australia? I know in the UK the maximum was just set at five years, and I think 50,000 miles - US it's ten years, 100,000 miles.

5 years, 130,000km.

I think our average annual mileage is higher than yours, and the country's notably harder on cars (our inner city councils are too cheap to fix the roads properly).

 

[mayorbill11]

Neons are ok but J bodies are much more pleasing to the eye, the coupes at least.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by mayorbill11
Neons are ok but J bodies are much more pleasing to the eye, the coupes at least.

I don't believe you continue to defend the worst car ever made. The coupes are the ugliest car on American roads, including the Pontiac Aztek. Please look at the front fascia on this picture:

Pleasing to the eye? Hardly. 'Least it's not as bad as the rear "bumper lights" which jut out from the bumper about three inches:

That picture doesn't begin to describe how indescribably ugly this car is. Remember, this is just the exterior of the Pontiac. There's still an entirely DIFFERENT GM product (plus interiors!) not re-designed in nine years which is still, sadly, being made, as an insult to the US and Canadian car-buying public.

The vehicles are simply horrible loads of crap which should've been removed from the street with the end of the Jimmy Carter years, since they clearly borrow all their dynamics from that period.

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Originally posted by SaleenASL
But a 10 year Warranty means the company doesn't have confidence in their product, right?

Hey, I think I heard another Apex Seal blow.

All things aside, I'm a fan of the new 6s and I'm more than a little curious about the new RX-7.

Here, let me put this into something more simple for you to understand, you might get it .

When a car is under warrenty, anything that goes wrong (part that fails, something doesnt work, oil changes, etc) that is the manufacturer's fault while the warrenty is still good, the manufacturer pays for it. Not many Manufacturing companies, especially car manufacturer's, like to pay for thing's out-of-pocket. If you look at the number of cars a manufacturer sells and the amount of problems that happen to those cars, it adds up quite a bit. So if they dont have much faith in their product, they might put a short (or somewhat short) warrenty on a car, so the warrenty will hopefully run-out before something goes wrong on their product, keeping more money in their pockets. However, if I put a 10 year warrenty on a car, Im very faithful in my product, and it is most likely reliable. 10 years is a pretty fricken long time to have a car **. You know how many problems that could happen within that time? I dont think a manufacturer would give an un-reliable car such a long warrenty, to where they would have to pay for each faulty item that is their fault.

**The average yearly milage on a car in the US is about 20,000 miles (it might have been 30K, dont remember that well). Think of all the tune ups, oil changes, and so on within that time if you drive more than that.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Frustrated Palm

When a car is under warrenty, anything that goes wrong (part that fails, something doesnt work, oil changes, etc) that is the manufacturer's fault while the warrenty is still good, the manufacturer pays for it. Not many Manufacturing companies, especially car manufacturer's, like to pay for thing's out-of-pocket. If you look at the number of cars a manufacturer sells and the amount of wrecks that happen to those cars, it adds up quite a bit. So if they dont have much faith in their product, they might put a short (or somewhat short) warrenty on a car, so the warrenty will hopefully run-out before something goes wrong on their product, keeping more money in their pockets. However, if I put a 10 year warrenty on a car, Im very faithful in my product, and it is most likely reliable. 10 years is a pretty fricken long time to have a car. You know how many problems that could happen within that time? I dont think a manufacturer would give an un-reliable car such a long warrenty, to where they would have to pay for each faulty item that is their fault.

Keep a few things in mind:
- "anything goes wrong" warranties are called bumper-to-bumper warranties, and go for much shorter periods of time. Kia's current bumper-to-bumper is 5 years/60,000 miles.
- The only ten year warranty Kia puts out is the extended powetrain (engine) warranty, which goes for 100,000 miles or ten years.
- Other Kia warranties are in keeping with the US warranty norms, excepting their also exceptional roadside assistance warranty

I do agree Kia stands behind their cars, but trust me - ten years from now, if stuff starts to fall off your car's interior, they won't be around to give a damn. Neither will any other manufacturer, so it's your call as to which you which you want to put long-term stock in by purchasing a car. This is where reliability truly comes in, and where most people are split on Hyundai/Kia. I personally believe most Hyundais will stand up past ten years, but a lot of people don't, and you can't blame them - Hyundai simply not manufacture a good car in the US before 2000 (remember the Excel, or the previous Sonatas, or that plastic-looking Accent?).

 

[Frustrated Palm]

Originally posted by M5Power
Keep a few things in mind:
- "anything goes wrong" warranties are called bumper-to-bumper warranties, and go for much shorter periods of time. Kia's current bumper-to-bumper is 5 years/60,000 miles.
- The only ten year warranty Kia puts out is the extended powetrain (engine) warranty, which goes for 100,000 miles or ten years.
- Other Kia warranties are in keeping with the US warranty norms, excepting their also exceptional roadside assistance warranty

I do agree Kia stands behind their cars, but trust me - ten years from now, if stuff starts to fall off your car's interior, they won't be around to give a damn. Neither will any other manufacturer, so it's your call as to which you which you want to put long-term stock in by purchasing a car. This is where reliability truly comes in, and where most people are split on Hyundai/Kia. I personally believe most Hyundais will stand up past ten years, but a lot of people don't, and you can't blame them - Hyundai simply not manufacture a good car in the US before 2000 (remember the Excel, or the previous Sonatas, or that plastic-looking Accent?).

I was just explaining the little little basics for him. Thanks for correcting some of my errors though. I dont like posting things with errors in them...

 

[ving]

wtf?
a fugly fleet of elantras!
weird ppl out there!