Permanent Borrow Glitch Trading Thread
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Give me a little bit, I'm working on this.👍
EDIT: I'm just about finished.
I retyped up the instructions to go into a little more detail to prevent more questions from coming up.
I also retyped up the FAQ so all you have to do is copy and paste or link to my post.
The only thing I ask is please give me a little credit to this extensive guide I've got going here.
I'm also going to apologize ahead of time for the double post.
EDIT 2: As you can see it is posted below this, if I forgot anything please let me know.
I'm pretty sure I nailed everything and added a couple other things I found out that weren't mentioned before.
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Make sure you read EVERY step of the instructions and EVERY question in the FAQ before you post or attempt to do this.
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- Gran Turismo 5 "Sponge" Glitch Instructions -
First off, always backup your current save file before attempting anything like this.
Before doing this, I backed up a copy of my gamesave to my PC and external HDD.
1. Back up current save file to a second [or third] location. [I.E. PC, USB flash device, or external HDD.]
2. Start up Gran Turismo 5 and borrow a car from someone on your friends list.
3. Save your game. [You don't have to due to auto save, but I always manually save.]
4. Quit the game to the XMB.
5. Delete the GAME DATA, NOT THE GAME SAVE. [It will take about 5 minutes if it's the first time, it will delete quicker after this first time. The Game DATA is located in the top folder on the 'game' tab in the XMB.]
6. Start up Gran Turismo 5.
7. Refuse to download patches. [Press CIRCLE when the message comes up.]
8. Refuse to install the game to HDD.
9. When the game loads, go in to 'GT Mode.'
10. You will see you own the borrowed car [letters not red, no key next to it], but make sure you change to a different car from your garage. [Do NOT buy one from the NCD or OCD.]
11. Save your game. [Again, you don't have to due to auto save, but I always manually save.]
12. Quit the game to XMB.
13. Start up Gran Turismo 5.
14. Download the game patches/updates.
15. Refuse to install game to HDD, unless you won't sponge again.
16. Go into 'GT Mode,' go to your garage, check out and enjoy your new car.
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- Gran Turismo 5 Sponge Glitch FAQ -
Q. Why is this called the Gran Turismo 5 Sponge Glitch?
A. Ther persons username on GTP that found this is 'theotherspongey.' The community decided to give that person credit and named the glitch after them.
Q. Can anybody do this?
A. Anybody who has a save file that is smaller than 4165KB.
Q. Why does the game save have to be smaller than 4165KB?
A. If your save file is larger than that, when you start the game up after sponging and downloading the patches you will have no cars or tickets in your garage.
Q. Will my friend lose the car that I sponge?
A. No, that's the great thing. You get a copy and your friend keeps the original.
Q. Where is the game data at?
A. It is located in the top folder on the 'game' tab in the XMB.
Q. Does deleting the game data affect my game progress?
A. No, your game progess is held in your game save.
Q. What does the game data contain then?
A. DLC, created tracks, photo's, and replay's
Q. Wait, so you're telling me I will lost my DLC cars if I do this?!
A. No, all you have to do is re-download them when you are done.
Q. How do I re-download them?
A. Yes. Sign in to PSN. 'Go to Account Management.' Then 'Transactions Management.' Then 'Download List.' Just search through that list and re-download them. If you did a game share from someone elses account, well you can't get them back, unless you have access to that account again.
Q. What about the Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Special)?
A. That car was not DLC, it was given away via ticket form to people who competed in the GT Academy.
Q. Does this mean I can finally get the Chrome Line and Stealth cars?
A. No, any DLC car cannot be borrowed. This includes all Chrome Line cars, Stealth cars, Camaro SS Edge Special, and the Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Special).
Q. Wait a second. You just said it works with any car, so why can't I get the GT-R Academy Car?
A. You are thinking of the Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Version) '09 not the Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Special). The Nissan GT-R SpecV (GT Academy Special) was gifted to people who competed in the GT Academy.
Q. Can I get 0/0 cars this way?
A. No, any car that you do this to will end up with 1 switch.
Q. How long will it take me to delete the game data?
A. Deleting the game data for the first time takes about 5 minutes, it will go faster after the first time.
Q. How long will it take me to download the patches?
A. That all depends on your internet connection. It can take anywhere from 30 minutes to 2+ hours. It's also highly recommended that you hardwire your PS3 and don't use WiFi as that will help speed up the process.
Q. Should I reinstall the game to the HDD after I'm done downloading the patches?
A. No, it adds more time to the glitch than needed. Only do it if you plan on never sponging again.
Q. Is there a limit to the value of cars I can do this to?
A. No, so go out there and get your X2010's and all untradeable cars!
Q. How many times can I do this?
A. As many times as you want.
Q. Can I speed up the process by borrowing more than one car at once?
A. No, you can only borrow one car at a time.
Q. Can I speed up the process by borrowing cars over and over without downloading the patches?
A. No, you have to install the patches everytime. You will be unable to sign into PSN until the patches are downloaded again.
Q. I successfully completed my first sponge, but why did some of my car thumbnails disappear or are the wrong color?
A. It happens. There is a fix, but it is time consuming. Just highlight the car with the wrong thumbnail. Press TRIANGLE. Then click 'Create Thumbnail.' Wait a couple seconds and it's fixed. It is highly recommended that you wait until you are done sponging to perform this, otherwise you are just wasting your time. The thumbnail will also restore when you set a car to share online, but that takes longer.
Q. You mean I have to do that with every car?
A. Yes, and in all 3 different garage views. It's a small price to pay to perform this glitch.
Q. I successfully completed my first sponge but my game log shows that I got all of my trophies again. Why?
A. I'm not sure, my guess is that the data that holds the information about your trophies earned is located within the game data. So after you delete it and load the game up again, it thinks you earned your trophies again.
Q. Every time I sponge I keep getting the Mercededs-Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91. Why?
A. If you had all of the Mercedes-Benz AMG Academy Intermediate silvered before you performed the sponge then you will keep getting the Mercededs-Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91 after every sponge.
Q. Every time I sponge I keep getting the Mercededs-Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91 and the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM Race Car '98. Why?
A. If you had all of the Mercedes-Benz AMG Academy Intermediate golded before you performed the sponge then you will keep getting the and the Mercededs-Benz 190 E 2.5 - 16 Evolution II '91 and the Mercedes-Benz CLK-LM Race Car '98 after every sponge.
Q. I have the Mercedes-Benz AMG Academy all silver or gold but it doesn't tell me that I am getting them when the game loads after I download the patches. Why?
A. Check in the car delivery truck, the tickets for the cars should be there.
Q. Why does that keep happening?
A. I'm not sure, just a side effect of this wonderful sponge glitch.
Q. You previously said all tracks, photos, and replays are in the game data. Will I lose them when I delete the game data?
A. Yes, you will lose them all. There is a couple steps you can take to prevent losing your photos and replays though.
Q. Well then tell me, how to I stop from losing my photos and replays?
A. Go to your replays and photos section in game. Press TRIANGLE on each one. Then press 'Export to Save Data' or 'Export to XMB Photo Menu.' Pictures you are able to do all at once, but replays you have to do one at a time.
Q. Can I get the photos and replays back in the game when I am done?
A. After you are completely done with sponging, you can get your replays back into the game, but not your photos. They will stay on the XMB photo menu. To get your replays back in the game. Go into the replay section. Down in the bottom left corner you will find an 'Import Replay' button. Press X on that and you can then import your replays back into the game.
Q. Will I lose my gear doing this?
A. No, you will not lose your gear. They will be in 2 different folders under 'items.' Just don't open the folders.
Q. What happens to the gear my driver is wearing and the gear my B-Spec drivers are wearing?
A. They will still be wearing the gear. It does not go back to the default white gear set.
Q. What happens to my drivers that I have shared online and their prize money?
A. Nothing, they will be safe and nothing will be lost.
Q. If I have cars set up to being shared online can I still do this?
A. Yes, the cars you have shared will be fine and nothing will happen to them.
Q. You previously mentioned not to buy any cars from the UCD or NCD. Why can't I?
A. After you you update the game to the current version, you are unable to switch or sell the car that you bought after you deleted the game data.
When you try to, the screen goes black and resets you back to the GT Mode screen. If you do this, the next time you start the game after deleting the game data, you can sell/delete the glitched car.
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Thank you all who have helped, tested, and contributed to this.
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I thought I had put that in the faq but apparently I forgot about that one.
There have been reports that if you buy a car from the UCD or NCD when you load up the game after deleting the game data, that after you update again your game or car will glitch.
I can't remember exactly what happened and don't have the time right now to go back through all the pages to find it.
I myself haven't tested it out yet.
Wow, I haven't been here in months. Moved on to other games and RL things. Still love this game, especially the glitches. Glad you guys finally found this one before they patched it. Now all of you that didn't get your X2010 Protos can get them without the ridiculous trophy requirements. I found this one back in January, along with another dupe method that still hasn't been mentioned. After this one is patched, hopefully someone else finds and posts that one. I don't post cheat methods myself, but as a programmer love finding glitches in any game I play. Congrats to spongey.
im finally done with my 36hr 3 day work weekend. so now its time for gt5
I changed my cars around to something a little different
I put a few 69 SS Camaros and some different colored cudas. i stilll have sassy grass green cuda thats not up but it wil be soon.
amo82- Thank you for the ticket. I really appreciate it.
shepski- Im going to be sending you a ticket as soon as I get off the forum
I changed my cars around to something a little different
I put a few 69 SS Camaros and some different colored cudas. i stilll have sassy grass green cuda thats not up but it wil be soon.
amo82- Thank you for the ticket. I really appreciate it.
shepski- Im going to be sending you a ticket as soon as I get off the forum
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if u buy or collect a car ticket without the patches installed. when you install patches and try to switch/sell the car the screen goes black and just resets the the GTMode screen. easily solved by waiting till next time you glitch and sell/delete the car once you've deleted teh gamne data again
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That's exactly what I was getting at.
Update 1.06 was the one that implemented the car share/borrow function.
I just didn't put that detail in because I wanted to see what he'd fire back with.
Thank you for the detailed information as well about the buying a car prepatch.
Will edit that into the FAQ shortly.👍
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Don't have any mate, I was just hoping to bung some cars online for whoever puts the McLaren up for me tbh.
Fellow circle member, would you like to share the wealth with that at some point.
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Just to let everyone know, my overtime at work is finally done...for now.
I finally have the time to put up the last 3 colors of the Audi R8 LMS '09 as well as the Team Playstation R8 LMS, and one other user request!
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That's exactly what I was getting at.
Update 1.06 was the one that implemented the car share/borrow function.
I just didn't put that detail in because I wanted to see what he'd fire back with.
Thank you for the detailed information as well about the buying a car prepatch.
Will edit that into the FAQ shortly.👍
it was more like 1.08 that brought car borrowing in. 1.06 was one that introduced save file backup and started the duping trend. It wasnt up until one of the recent patches that changed trades to one per console. then patch after i think reduced it to 1mill ban and then patch after introduced car loans as well as b-spec remote racing
actually just checked n your right was 1.06 i'd got revision numbers mixed up lol
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