PITS 2-[Project International Touring Series 2]PS4 

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What's happening tonight? 8:17pm EST now and not seeing nobody on for tonight's race.

EDIT: 8:25pm. No sign of Alex or Hazard.
 
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Does anyone have replay of race 2


There was only 7 after you got the DISCO. It stopped raining after about 15 mins or so, but the track never really got completely dry... Was def a bit of work to run through the 3 (or 4) puddles, that were ACROSS the track, on slicks without going off. I learned I pretty much suck at this game except in perfect weather conditions. :lol::lol:
 
From racing on a video game, to racing my toy cars.... [my wife is the best - I literally don't know how she puts up with it]

New F1 and New 1/12th scale to try out tonight. And yes, I race toy cars, if I have to explain why you'll never understand. :lol:

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And yes, that is some SPARKLE you see in the baby blue. And I'm gonna rock it tonight, looking for 3 wins on the bounce. ;)
 
There was only 7 after you got the DISCO. It stopped raining after about 15 mins or so, but the track never really got completely dry... Was def a bit of work to run through the 3 (or 4) puddles, that were ACROSS the track, on slicks without going off. I learned I pretty much suck at this game except in perfect weather conditions. :lol::lol:
Thanks man. Needless to say I had to have a long Talk with my roommate after last night. Boardeline almost punched him in the face..

@HazardLvL4 thanks I wanna see how that raced played out
 
Great racing last night guys, really enjoyed it - well, all but the wet track part. . . :rolleyes: :lol:
Ditto to that. Quite enjoyed the racing except for the rain/wet track myself. At least thank God the rain came towards the last 12-15 mins or so. Didn't help much when I pitted to change tyres to wet for the rain the pit crew didn't put wet tyres but soft. That was my bad though as for once I decided to try leaving on "Automatic by weather" thinking the appropriate change would have been made weather-wise.
.....and with that had was to tip-toe with no grip around the track to the next pit stop losing a couple positions well in the process... and that was the end of that. Woe is me.
 

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Another great video by Racers360, "Dealing with oversteer-what to do as a driver" I'm in @HazardLvL4 Corvette C7.R GTE at spa tomorrow and I'm dealing with this at the chicane 19/20 just before turn in.
 
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Another great video by Racers360, "Dealing with oversteer-what to do as a driver" I'm in @HazardLvL4 Corvette C7.R GTE at spa tomorrow and I'm dealing with this at the chicane 19/20 just before turn in.


Watched the video, and he is a very good source of information. Everything he stated is how I drive when dealing with a lively rear-end. Thus, he covered all the driving techniques, but I am going to cover the setup portion that affects corner entry oversteer.

*NOTE - The first change with the Corvette C7R GTE is to make sure the Longitudinal Weight Bias is all the way to the rear. This has nothing to do with your corner-entry oversteer issue, but this is a fundamental setup change for good overall balance in the Corvette C7R.

Rear Brake Lock-up on Corner Entry:
If the oversteer on corner-entry is occuring as you're braking, then this is typically due to the brake bias being too far to the rear causing lock-up or just unbalancing the car. In this situation you need to move brake bias a few percentage points back forward. Again the key give away for this is if it is happening under hard braking / lock up.

*Also if you are locking-up after you found the brake bias that feels the most stable, then begin reducing brake pressure till lock-up is eliminated or at least where you as a driver can mitigate it with your foot.

Too Soft of Rear Sway Bar:
If your rear sway bar is too soft then the rear will oversteer / feel unstable during corner-entry. You will need to stiffen the rear sway bar up one "click" at a time till you have stability in the rear during corner entry. The dead give away that you have gone to stiff is the car will then be oversteer happy on throttle on corner-exit. The thing to remember about the balance the rear sway bar provides in slow speed corners is:

Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Understeer
Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer

Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer
Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Exit Understeer

*Remember the rear sway bar is working in coordination with your front sway bar. Thus, if your front sway bar is really stiff and the rear is really soft, then the front end of the car has a ton of grip and "pulling" the rear around the corners. If this relationship to too front biased then the rear will just snap or feel very unstable during corner entry.

Too Much Engine Braking:
Having too much engine braking can cause corner-entry oversteer as well. The reason is as the engine braking begins, usually about the time you have stopped braking to begin making the turn, the engine braking will be causing understeer, and you will be fighting that with you steering input to turn in. This imbalance can cause corner-entry oversteer. The simple fix for this scenario is to reduce the engine braking to a point where this no longer occurs.

Deceleration Ramp for Clutch Differential:
The Deceleration Ramp on the clutch differential can cause corner entry oversteer if it is too open. The fix for this is really simple just decrease the deceleration ramp one-click at a time till the rear-end is no longer oversteering or feels more stable to your liking. The relationship for Deceleration Ramp on Clutch Diff's is:

Increasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Oversteer
Decreasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Understeer

Tire Pressure Imbalance:
This is something that should always be on your mind. for the GT cars the tire pressures at all 4x corners should be 1.80 bar when the tires are up to temp. I usually have mine settle during a race around 1.84-1.87. If the rear tire pressure at hot temp. is higher than the front tire pressure you will begin to feel twitchy in the rear-end everywhere. This is why it is important in GT cars to keep all 4x corners at the same tire pressure at a delta of 0.01-0.02 bar.

Car Ride Height (Rake):
He covered this in his video and I don't need to re-hash it. However, one more key thing to remember when you begin adjusting the ride height to lower the rear to decrease rake, you will also be impacting the downforce efficiency of the car in the high speed corners. There needs to be a certain level of rake that way the rear is pressed by downforce to the point the car has 0 rake going down a long straight. This can easily be observed at Spa's main straight just after Eau Rouge / Raidillon. The car wants to be flat at maximum downforce to maximize the downforce generated by the floor. This applies to cars with diffusers like GT and Prototypes.

LASTLY, ONLY WORK ON ONE OF THESE AREAS AT A TIME. DO NOT TRY AND CHANGE MULTIPLE SETUP OPTIONS WHILE DIAGNOSING A PROBLEM!!!

I hope this is clear as mud, and if you are around before your race today I can share my Corvette setup or help you tune yours. Just let me know.

-Haz
 
Watched the video, and he is a very good source of information. Everything he stated is how I drive when dealing with a lively rear-end. Thus, he covered all the driving techniques, but I am going to cover the setup portion that affects corner entry oversteer.

*NOTE - The first change with the Corvette C7R GTE is to make sure the Longitudinal Weight Bias is all the way to the rear. This has nothing to do with your corner-entry oversteer issue, but this is a fundamental setup change for good overall balance in the Corvette C7R.

Rear Brake Lock-up on Corner Entry:
If the oversteer on corner-entry is occuring as you're braking, then this is typically due to the brake bias being too far to the rear causing lock-up or just unbalancing the car. In this situation you need to move brake bias a few percentage points back forward. Again the key give away for this is if it is happening under hard braking / lock up.

*Also if you are locking-up after you found the brake bias that feels the most stable, then begin reducing brake pressure till lock-up is eliminated or at least where you as a driver can mitigate it with your foot.

Too Soft of Rear Sway Bar:
If your rear sway bar is too soft then the rear will oversteer / feel unstable during corner-entry. You will need to stiffen the rear sway bar up one "click" at a time till you have stability in the rear during corner entry. The dead give away that you have gone to stiff is the car will then be oversteer happy on throttle on corner-exit. The thing to remember about the balance the rear sway bar provides in slow speed corners is:

Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Understeer
Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer

Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer
Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Exit Understeer

*Remember the rear sway bar is working in coordination with your front sway bar. Thus, if your front sway bar is really stiff and the rear is really soft, then the front end of the car has a ton of grip and "pulling" the rear around the corners. If this relationship to too front biased then the rear will just snap or feel very unstable during corner entry.

Too Much Engine Braking:
Having too much engine braking can cause corner-entry oversteer as well. The reason is as the engine braking begins, usually about the time you have stopped braking to begin making the turn, the engine braking will be causing understeer, and you will be fighting that with you steering input to turn in. This imbalance can cause corner-entry oversteer. The simple fix for this scenario is to reduce the engine braking to a point where this no longer occurs.

Deceleration Ramp for Clutch Differential:
The Deceleration Ramp on the clutch differential can cause corner entry oversteer if it is too open. The fix for this is really simple just decrease the deceleration ramp one-click at a time till the rear-end is no longer oversteering or feels more stable to your liking. The relationship for Deceleration Ramp on Clutch Diff's is:

Increasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Oversteer
Decreasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Understeer

Tire Pressure Imbalance:
This is something that should always be on your mind. for the GT cars the tire pressures at all 4x corners should be 1.80 bar when the tires are up to temp. I usually have mine settle during a race around 1.84-1.87. If the rear tire pressure at hot temp. is higher than the front tire pressure you will begin to feel twitchy in the rear-end everywhere. This is why it is important in GT cars to keep all 4x corners at the same tire pressure at a delta of 0.01-0.02 bar.

Car Ride Height (Rake):
He covered this in his video and I don't need to re-hash it. However, one more key thing to remember when you begin adjusting the ride height to lower the rear to decrease rake, you will also be impacting the downforce efficiency of the car in the high speed corners. There needs to be a certain level of rake that way the rear is pressed by downforce to the point the car has 0 rake going down a long straight. This can easily be observed at Spa's main straight just after Eau Rouge / Raidillon. The car wants to be flat at maximum downforce to maximize the downforce generated by the floor. This applies to cars with diffusers like GT and Prototypes.

LASTLY, ONLY WORK ON ONE OF THESE AREAS AT A TIME. DO NOT TRY AND CHANGE MULTIPLE SETUP OPTIONS WHILE DIAGNOSING A PROBLEM!!!

I hope this is clear as mud, and if you are around before your race today I can share my Corvette setup or help you tune yours. Just let me know.

-Haz
Thanks man! Great read!! I was kidding with the set-up as I think I have a good one.
 
Watched the video, and he is a very good source of information. Everything he stated is how I drive when dealing with a lively rear-end. Thus, he covered all the driving techniques, but I am going to cover the setup portion that affects corner entry oversteer.

*NOTE - The first change with the Corvette C7R GTE is to make sure the Longitudinal Weight Bias is all the way to the rear. This has nothing to do with your corner-entry oversteer issue, but this is a fundamental setup change for good overall balance in the Corvette C7R.

Rear Brake Lock-up on Corner Entry:
If the oversteer on corner-entry is occuring as you're braking, then this is typically due to the brake bias being too far to the rear causing lock-up or just unbalancing the car. In this situation you need to move brake bias a few percentage points back forward. Again the key give away for this is if it is happening under hard braking / lock up.

*Also if you are locking-up after you found the brake bias that feels the most stable, then begin reducing brake pressure till lock-up is eliminated or at least where you as a driver can mitigate it with your foot.

Too Soft of Rear Sway Bar:
If your rear sway bar is too soft then the rear will oversteer / feel unstable during corner-entry. You will need to stiffen the rear sway bar up one "click" at a time till you have stability in the rear during corner entry. The dead give away that you have gone to stiff is the car will then be oversteer happy on throttle on corner-exit. The thing to remember about the balance the rear sway bar provides in slow speed corners is:

Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Understeer
Stiffening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer

Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Entry Oversteer
Softening Rear Sway Bar = Corner Exit Understeer

*Remember the rear sway bar is working in coordination with your front sway bar. Thus, if your front sway bar is really stiff and the rear is really soft, then the front end of the car has a ton of grip and "pulling" the rear around the corners. If this relationship to too front biased then the rear will just snap or feel very unstable during corner entry.

Too Much Engine Braking:
Having too much engine braking can cause corner-entry oversteer as well. The reason is as the engine braking begins, usually about the time you have stopped braking to begin making the turn, the engine braking will be causing understeer, and you will be fighting that with you steering input to turn in. This imbalance can cause corner-entry oversteer. The simple fix for this scenario is to reduce the engine braking to a point where this no longer occurs.

Deceleration Ramp for Clutch Differential:
The Deceleration Ramp on the clutch differential can cause corner entry oversteer if it is too open. The fix for this is really simple just decrease the deceleration ramp one-click at a time till the rear-end is no longer oversteering or feels more stable to your liking. The relationship for Deceleration Ramp on Clutch Diff's is:

Increasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Oversteer
Decreasing the Deceleration Ramp = Corner Entry Understeer

Tire Pressure Imbalance:
This is something that should always be on your mind. for the GT cars the tire pressures at all 4x corners should be 1.80 bar when the tires are up to temp. I usually have mine settle during a race around 1.84-1.87. If the rear tire pressure at hot temp. is higher than the front tire pressure you will begin to feel twitchy in the rear-end everywhere. This is why it is important in GT cars to keep all 4x corners at the same tire pressure at a delta of 0.01-0.02 bar.

Car Ride Height (Rake):
He covered this in his video and I don't need to re-hash it. However, one more key thing to remember when you begin adjusting the ride height to lower the rear to decrease rake, you will also be impacting the downforce efficiency of the car in the high speed corners. There needs to be a certain level of rake that way the rear is pressed by downforce to the point the car has 0 rake going down a long straight. This can easily be observed at Spa's main straight just after Eau Rouge / Raidillon. The car wants to be flat at maximum downforce to maximize the downforce generated by the floor. This applies to cars with diffusers like GT and Prototypes.

LASTLY, ONLY WORK ON ONE OF THESE AREAS AT A TIME. DO NOT TRY AND CHANGE MULTIPLE SETUP OPTIONS WHILE DIAGNOSING A PROBLEM!!!

I hope this is clear as mud, and if you are around before your race today I can share my Corvette setup or help you tune yours. Just let me know.

-Haz


Thanks for posting that, especially the clutch diff part... I'll work on that for next race (probably completely muck it up... but something to try).
 
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