Because the group your selected to be in is after all qualifying has taken place then it's arbitrary which group your allocated to so you haven't actually achieved pole for a group of drivers. Obviously having a good time helps you but I've seen myself being placed on pole and also 7th with the same time depending on the people who are on line at the time.
Pole position is just an illusion!
- Thread starter CliveH
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- 1,875
- United States
I cannot grasp how the selection process works for the lobby you are placed in.
I took the other day and placed a qualifying time that was intentionally slower than my pace possible on the track, I ran 5 races and was placed in grid position between 8th and 14th. Room Q times were between 3 seconds faster and 5 seconds slower than my time. In a couple of those races I gained 10 positions by race end.
Next I went and placed a new Q time 2 seconds a lap faster than my previous time. Same track, same race, same day. I then proceeded to race another 5 races. I was placed in grid position between 8th and 16th. Room Q times were between 3 seconds faster and 10 seconds slower.
It seems that I am always placed in a mid grid position and all of the races that I enter always have drivers from DR races from higher levels. I realize that they say it is determined by who is online at the time but in a 10 lap daily race on prime time I am sure that each daily race start time has multiple lobbies kicking off a race at the same time on the North American servers.
I have over 150 online races running in both the DR D and DR C class and all races have been in the SR S ranking and have been in 1 lobby where I was on pole and that was the first week of the games launch and only 4 or so races where I started in the top 5. I have had quite a few races when in DR D class that I would be the top or second fastest driver in my class but the race would have 8-10 drivers from the A-C classes.
I enjoy racing regardless but it would be nice to be placed in races where you actually have a chance to win once in a while. Maybe it is luck of the draw but in my cases even when I have been one of the fastest drivers in my class there is always racers from higher ranking classes taking the top starting spots.
I thought my test with Q times may shed some difference but it only placed me in lobbies with faster racers and the same time gap and class differences to the front spots.
Does anybody in the mid DR classes ever get races very often that just include their own classes? And it seems just through repetition and the number of races entered that top starting spots would happen a little more often.
I cannot figure it out.
I took the other day and placed a qualifying time that was intentionally slower than my pace possible on the track, I ran 5 races and was placed in grid position between 8th and 14th. Room Q times were between 3 seconds faster and 5 seconds slower than my time. In a couple of those races I gained 10 positions by race end.
Next I went and placed a new Q time 2 seconds a lap faster than my previous time. Same track, same race, same day. I then proceeded to race another 5 races. I was placed in grid position between 8th and 16th. Room Q times were between 3 seconds faster and 10 seconds slower.
It seems that I am always placed in a mid grid position and all of the races that I enter always have drivers from DR races from higher levels. I realize that they say it is determined by who is online at the time but in a 10 lap daily race on prime time I am sure that each daily race start time has multiple lobbies kicking off a race at the same time on the North American servers.
I have over 150 online races running in both the DR D and DR C class and all races have been in the SR S ranking and have been in 1 lobby where I was on pole and that was the first week of the games launch and only 4 or so races where I started in the top 5. I have had quite a few races when in DR D class that I would be the top or second fastest driver in my class but the race would have 8-10 drivers from the A-C classes.
I enjoy racing regardless but it would be nice to be placed in races where you actually have a chance to win once in a while. Maybe it is luck of the draw but in my cases even when I have been one of the fastest drivers in my class there is always racers from higher ranking classes taking the top starting spots.
I thought my test with Q times may shed some difference but it only placed me in lobbies with faster racers and the same time gap and class differences to the front spots.
Does anybody in the mid DR classes ever get races very often that just include their own classes? And it seems just through repetition and the number of races entered that top starting spots would happen a little more often.
I cannot figure it out.
- 23
- Canada
Its all over the place. A few races lately where dr d was 11 of 12 spots with a c mixed in. But the d's had a faster Q time. . i think if you had a lesser sr you would be matched with people that werent as quick givingnyou spots closer to the front. But puts you in serious harms way. All of my wins came before i got to sr s now im a dr d because i get matched up with aliens all the time and starting mid pack im in the danger zone where i get punted back to 10 or worse most races.
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- 654
- India
Set a time where you are slower than those Top 5 Super fast driver's by about 3-5 secs and you will start top 6 most times. Occasionally lower than that.
- 3,859
- London, Ontario
- voodoovaj
It all depends on who is available in the queue at the time the race is made. If 1000 A/S drivers are ready and waiting with times that are all pretty similar, they will end up in one room.
If there is 8 people in the queue, rating and times all over the map, they'll end up in the same race.
As for pole being an illusion, it is very much based on the luck of the draw.
If there is 8 people in the queue, rating and times all over the map, they'll end up in the same race.
As for pole being an illusion, it is very much based on the luck of the draw.
- 80
- United Kingdom
It depends on how they do the draw I guess. If they pick a group of drivers based on the driver rating number that sits behind the ratings and if you have got a faster qualifying lap than any of those other drivers with a similar rating then that is an achievement. And I think this is how it does work because if I do loads of practice laps until I can't find a way to get faster then I seem to be near the front of the grid. On the other hand if I just jump into a race after not really practicing then I'll usually be in the middle somewhere.
- 176
- Derby, UK
- danthespam
My theory is that behind the scenes there are actually several grades in each category that we cannot see. At times I appear to have been on the edge of a grade. Set a fast quali time and take pole and an easy victory, my dr goes up very slightly and next race I’m down in 10th place a second off the leader in a group of much much faster drivers. Do my best and finish top 10. Next race end up pole. I don’t think I’ve secured consecutive poles for a very long time despite them using the same time for 24 hour periods.
As I did a lot of rage quits lately, both my DR and SR varied a lot... what I realized is that the SR is a much stronger criteria to matchmaking... most of the races were with people from D to B DR (sometimes E-B) and the same SR (sometimes a gap of one level).
Maybe they should give more strenght to DR for matchmaking
Maybe they should give more strenght to DR for matchmaking
- 80
- United Kingdom
Yeah the FIA qualifying would be loads better if it was the same eight minutes or whatever but everyone wasn't on track together, I know it's supposed to be realistic but in reality it's just annoying.
