POLL: Do econo-cars and small cars (think Lifan) have a place in gt6?

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Small cars in GT6?

  • YEs, they are always fun

    Votes: 245 80.9%
  • Yes, if there is a drive mode

    Votes: 19 6.3%
  • Not if there isn't a drive mode

    Votes: 6 2.0%
  • NO, no matter what

    Votes: 33 10.9%

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Well? I think they are fun, but would be more fun if there was a free drive mode.
Thats what I think, what do YOU think?
 
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Some people argue they are an essential component of GT and they're very fun and etc. but I couldn't care less for those cars. If I wanted to drive a crappy econo/eco hatch, I have mom's car in the driveway. I seriously don't look towards driving Demios, Priuses, Leafs, Swifts, generic K-cars etc. I understand the like some people have for the Capuccino, for instance, but it actually is a quite peppy, lightweight, turbocharged, rear-wheel driven, maniac so I think it has earned it's place in GT even though I don't like it. But cars like the Prius and etc. are a different story. How boring would you have to be to actually desire to simulate driving something that sounds like a vaccum cleaner and goes like one???

Consider driving a car in a sim is much less exciting than doing it in real life. Driving a race car in a sim is a blast because driving a real race car is nothing short of mindblowing. But given that an ecomo crapbox is boring in real life, why would you want something EVEN more boring?
 
I voted Yes for always. I think they're a key part of the GT culture and were essentially the idea that created Gran Turismo in the first place. After all Yamauchi-san pitched the idea by saying "I want to drive my car on the television" way back in the '90's.

I just wish we could see more "plebian" automobiles from America and Europe. Keep them performance-oriented (Camry SE, Sonata Turbo instead of Camry LE, Sonata GDI) but let me do things with those cars that you can't or wouldn't do with them in real life.

If I wanted to play a game that had only supercars or other performance oriented cars, I'd go pick up Need for Speed or Test Drive Unlimited.
 
What kind of a question is this?

When you are a real car enthusiast, you'll get the same possitive feeling from a VW Kubelwagen or a Lamborghini Aventador.

Having all types of cars is the essence of Gran Turismo.
 
Yes, but ONLY if we get this
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Some people argue they are an essential component of GT and they're very fun and etc. but I couldn't care less for those cars. If I wanted to drive a crappy econo/eco hatch, I have mom's car in the driveway. I seriously don't look towards driving Demios, Priuses, Leafs, Swifts, generic K-cars etc. I understand the like some people have for the Capuccino, for instance, but it actually is a quite peppy, lightweight, turbocharged, rear-wheel driven, maniac so I think it has earned it's place in GT even though I don't like it. But cars like the Prius and etc. are a different story. How boring would you have to be to actually desire to simulate driving something that sounds like a vaccum cleaner and goes like one???

Consider driving a car in a sim is much less exciting than doing it in real life. Driving a race car in a sim is a blast because driving a real race car is nothing short of mindblowing. But given that an ecomo crapbox is boring in real life, why would you want something EVEN more boring?

+1, I couldn't agree more, I really couldn't be bothered with a Prius or any other econo car, they're just mind numbingly boring.
 
I really dislike all the econoboxes that have plagued the GT series for years and I wish they would just all go away.

However...that doesn't mean that I don't like slow cars (by today's standards). I love VW Beetles, Fiat 500s, '66 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duettos, '74 Triumph Spitfire 1500s, 62' Lotus Elan S1s, etc.

Iconic classic cars should have a place in the series. They can act as the cars that the user starts out with, effectively rendering the econoboxes useless.
 
I really dislike all the econoboxes that have plagued the GT series for years and I wish they would just all go away.

However...that doesn't mean that I don't like slow cars (by today's standards). I love VW Beetles, Fiat 500s, '66 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duettos, '74 Triumph Spitfire 1500s, 62' Lotus Elan S1s, etc.

Iconic classic cars should have a place in the series. They can act as the cars that the user starts out with, effectively rendering the econoboxes useless.

I don't know who would put amateurs behind some of the best classic cars ever.
 
In "The Real Driving Simulator" I would expect to start with a cheap, affordable car. Not a classic beauty which is no longer in production.

I guess we'll agree to disagree on this subject then. I don't personally think it matters since it's just a video game, but to each is own.
 
I really dislike all the econoboxes that have plagued the GT series for years and I wish they would just all go away.

However...that doesn't mean that I don't like slow cars (by today's standards). I love VW Beetles, Fiat 500s, '66 Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duettos, '74 Triumph Spitfire 1500s, 62' Lotus Elan S1s, etc.

Iconic classic cars should have a place in the series. They can act as the cars that the user starts out with, effectively rendering the econoboxes useless.
Except those aren't good beginner cars...

In my opinion, you shouldn't start in something slow persay. Older "slow" cars are tricky to drive and cars that are historic (and in good shape) usually have decent value. Nobody starts out a track career with a 1966 Alfa Spider. It is far more realistic to start out in something like a Demio, Vitz, Panda or Pug 208. They're realistic starters because they are inexpensive, but also small, light and peppy. They've been part of the GT DNA since the start, no need to change something that isn't broken, even if a minority don't like them.
 
the problem with economic cars, especially K cars, is that there aren't enough budget races you can be competitive in.

You always end up needing engine mods just to keep up and even then, those low-potential engines require the big bucks for any reasonable increase in performance.
 
Motorsports, to me at least, isn't just about having the fastest car ever built. So why should Gran Turismo be full of exotic supercars that do 1 billion miles per hour? The Kei-cars, econoboxes and people-movers are a nice palate-clenser of sorts and offer a lot of fun, especially online against 15 others.
 
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Some yes, some no. Something like a little entry level Fiesta or 500 i'll drive and are good for upgrading but I don't care for those little Japanese boxes with 60bhp. No desire to drive any of them.
 
After all Yamauchi-san pitched the idea by saying "I want to drive my car on the television" way back in the '90's.

Not only that but also for the sake of contrast (nevermind variety), they're the perfect antidote to supercars/racecars, after driving some of these low-powered (admittedly most of them I've fully tuned) econo-boxes or Kei cars for a while, I'm often impressed again with the speed and performance offered by supercars and racecars, which if I only drove those all the time would become the norm and it would get boring.

Having said that, these cars themselves can offer a lot of fun and sometimes I feel more inclined to take my Autozam to the Ring than an F40, or am surprised how good a properly sorted Suzuki Cervo drives for example.
I even enjoyed tinkering and experimenting with a Prius which seems to mostly cause Tourette syndrome when mentioned here.
And even if we don't have a proper Premium SUV/big offroader, I do enjoy driving the Kubel/Schwimmwagen offroad and the little Fiat 500 is tons of fun (Gordon Murray actually thinks it qualifies as a sportscar) on any short twisty track.

What's more, racing low-powered cars is a completely different kind of race than with anything above 500PP, sometimes (if not most times) a lot more fun too.
 
If PD were on the ball they would be tracking all of the standard cars use in GT5 and prioritize the premium versions by those used. So some of the econoboxes that are very very rarely used might not get the premium treatment until GT7 or beyond while the most popular standards get done first.
 
I often have more fun throwing a Suzuki Cap or Fiat 500 around rather than just fighting a 800 horsepower supercar.
 
I often have more fun throwing a Suzuki Cap or Fiat 500 around rather than just fighting a 800 horsepower supercar.

Yeah but how often have you used the Daihatsu MOVE CX '95 or a Suzuki Kei WORKS '02? I think there certainly are some fun slow cars but others are just dull and undesirable.
 
Yeah but how often have you used the Daihatsu MOVE CX '95 or a Suzuki Kei WORKS '02? I think there certainly are some fun slow cars but others are just dull and undesirable.

That's probably because you raced it against better cars and henseforth it felt dull. Race a Move against some more Move's and it would be close racing and because of how small the cars are you'll be going 3, 4, 5 wide round corners.
 
No it's still dull. I think it might be better in real life but because the sense of speed isn't great in GT5 it feels like you're going in slow motion. I'm happy racing Mini's or Fiat 500s but those things are just a step too far for me. Not to mention they're awful to look at, at least a Mini, 500 or even Cappucino are decent to look at.
 
I voted no

Driving cars like this is only fun or useful for about 5 minutes, and you never drive them again because A. they're super slow and B. they usually have awful handling

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