[POLL] United States Presidential Elections 2016

The party nominees are named. Now who do you support?


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That's why I don't understand why electors just vote what their state won.
Great question.

I think much has been written about this, but I think it boils down to the deep ambivalence of our founders to the concept of democracy. So they gave us a republic which insulated itself from direct democracy. The electors are another layer of that insulation.
 
Way off topic but... I wonder if an Atheist could ever become President? These "Christians" ain't doing much to help America, and they don't act very Christian either.

When our English teacher - i was around 18, a long time ago then - told us that the tradition in US during the Oath of Office of the President, is that he swears on a Bible, it raises a bit of confusion in the classroom. It has been the first cracking in my naive belief that all democracies were secularist, at least in their institutions. I know today it is just a tradition, but it still looks incongruous to me, as that woman publicly asking Hilary Clinton to answer about her faith during a TV show. Incongruous and indecent in regards to what is at stake. But that what makes cultures interesting, in a way.

To get back to your question - not that off topic - Mike Pence is a creationist, which means he can't grasp one of the most established scientific theory (along with the gravity one). Apparently, using a private email server to handle sensitive messages is more problematic than denying 95% of the human knowledge in biology. So, to try an answer: there is a long and hard way to go.

Ironically, the fact that you felt the need to write "way off topic" says a lot about the existing cultural barriers about the subject in US. ;)
 
@BobK, here is the article I promised
By DEVLIN BARRETT
Updated Oct. 30, 2016 7:59 p.m. ET
The surprise disclosure that agents from the Federal Bureau of Investigation are taking a new look at Hillary Clinton’s email use lays bare, just days before the election, tensions inside the bureau and the Justice Department over how to investigate the Democratic presidential nominee.

Investigators found 650,000 emails on a laptop they believe was used by Rep Anthony Weiner and his estranged wife Huma Abedin, a close Clinton aide

(Missing paragraphs here)

Those emails stretched back years, these people said, and were on a laptop that hadn’t previously come up in the Clinton email probe. Ms. Abedin said in late August that the couple were separating.

The FBI had searched the computer while looking for child pornography, people familiar with the matter said, but the warrant they used didn’t give them authority to search for matters related to Mrs. Clinton’s email arrangement at the State Department. Mr. Weiner has denied sending explicit or indecent messages to the minor.

In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

At a meeting early last week of senior Justice Department and FBI officials, a member of the department’s senior national-security staff asked for an update on the Weiner laptop, the people familiar with the matter said. At that point, officials realized that no one had acted to obtain a warrant, these people said.

Mr. McCabe then instructed the email investigators to talk to the Weiner investigators and see whether the laptop’s contents could be relevant to the Clinton email probe, these people said. After the investigators spoke, the agents agreed it was potentially relevant.

Mr. Comey was given an update, decided to go forward with the case and notified Congress on Friday, with explosive results. Senior Justice Department officials had warned the FBI that telling Congress would violate policies against overt actions that could affect an election, and some within the FBI have been unhappy at Mr. Comey’s repeated public statements on the probe, going back to his press conference on the subject in July.

The back-and-forth reflects how the bureau is probing several matters related, directly or indirectly, to Mrs. Clinton and her inner circle.

New details show that senior law-enforcement officials repeatedly voiced skepticism of the strength of the evidence in a bureau investigation of the Clinton Foundation, sought to condense what was at times a sprawling cross-country effort, and, according to some people familiar with the matter, told agents to limit their pursuit of the case. The probe of the foundation began more than a year ago to determine whether financial crimes or influence peddling occurred related to the charity.
Some investigators grew frustrated, viewing FBI leadership as uninterested in probing the charity, these people said. Others involved disagreed sharply, defending FBI bosses and saying Mr. McCabe in particular was caught between an increasingly acrimonious fight for control between the Justice Department and FBI agents pursuing the Clinton Foundation case.

It isn’t unusual for field agents to favor a more aggressive approach than supervisors and prosecutors think is merited. But the internal debates about the Clinton Foundationshow the high stakes when such disagreements occur surrounding someone who is running for president.

The Wall Street Journal reported last weekthat Mr. McCabe’s wife, Jill McCabe, received $467,500 in campaign funds in late 2015 from the political-action committee of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of the Clintons and, until he was elected governor in November 2013, a Clinton Foundation board member.

Mr. McAuliffe had supported Dr. McCabe in the hopes she and a handful of other Democrats might help win a majority in the state Senate. Dr. McCabe lost her race last November, and Democrats failed to win their majority.

A spokesman for the governor has said that “any insinuation that his support was tied to anything other than his desire to elect candidates who would help pass his agenda is ridiculous.”

Dr. McCabe told the Journal, “Once I decided to run, my husband had no formal role in my campaign other than to be” supportive.

In February of this year, Mr. McCabe ascended from the No. 3 position at the FBI to the deputy director post. When he assumed that role, officials say, he started overseeing the probe into Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server for government work when she was secretary of state.

FBI officials have said Mr. McCabe had no role in the Clinton email probe until he became deputy director, and by then his wife’s campaign was over.

But other Clinton-related investigations were under way within the FBI, and they have been the subject of internal debate for months, according to people familiar with the matter.

Early this year, four FBI field offices—New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Little Rock, Ark.—were collecting information about the Clinton Foundation to see if there was evidence of financial crimes or influence-peddling, according to people familiar with the matter.

Los Angeles agents had picked up information about the Clinton Foundation from an unrelated public-corruption case and had issued some subpoenas for bank records related to the foundation, these people said.

The Washington field office was probing financial relationships involving Mr. McAuliffe before he became a Clinton Foundation board member, these people said. Mr. McAuliffe has denied any wrongdoing, and his lawyer has said the probe is focused on whether he failed to register as an agent of a foreign entity.

Clinton Foundation officials have long denied any wrongdoing, saying it is a well-run charity that has done immense good.

The FBI field office in New York had done the most work on the Clinton Foundation case and received help from the FBI field office in Little Rock, the people familiar with the matter said.

In February, FBI officials made a presentation to the Justice Department, according to these people. By all accounts, the meeting didn’t go well.

Some said that is because the FBI didn’t present compelling evidence to justify more aggressive pursuit of the Clinton Foundation, and that the career anticorruption prosecutors in the room simply believed it wasn’t a very strong case. Others said that from the start, the Justice Department officials were stern, icy and dismissive of the case.

“That was one of the weirdest meetings I’ve ever been to,” one participant told others afterward, according to people familiar with the matter.

Anticorruption prosecutors at the Justice Department told the FBI at the meeting they wouldn’t authorize more aggressive investigative techniques, such as subpoenas, formal witness interviews, or grand-jury activity. But the FBI officials believed they were well within their authority to pursue the leads and methods already under way, these people said.

About a week after Mr. Comey’s July announcement that he was recommending against any prosecution in the Clinton email case, the FBI sought to refocus the Clinton Foundation probe, with Mr. McCabe deciding the FBI’s New York office would take the lead, with assistance from Little Rock.

The Washington field office, FBI officials decided, would focus on a separate matter involving Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. McCabe had decided earlier in the spring that he would continue to recuse himself from that probe, given the governor’s contributions to his wife’s former political campaign.

Within the FBI, the decision was viewed with skepticism by some, who felt the probe would be stronger if the foundation and McAuliffe matters were combined. Others, particularly Justice Department anticorruption prosecutors, felt that both probes were weak, based largely on publicly available information, and had found little that would merit expanded investigative authority.

According to a person familiar with the probes, on Aug. 12, a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals.

The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant. Others said the Justice Department was simply trying to make sure FBI agents were following longstanding policy not to make overt investigative moves that could be seen as trying to influence an election. Those rules discourage investigators from making any such moves before a primary or general election, and, at a minimum, checking with anticorruption prosecutors before doing so.

“Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?” Mr. McCabe asked, according to people familiar with the conversation. After a pause, the official replied, “Of course not,” these people said.

For Mr. McCabe’s defenders, the exchange showed how he was stuck between an FBI office eager to pour more resources into a case and Justice Department prosecutors who didn’t think much of the case, one person said. Those people said that following the call, Mr. McCabe reiterated past instructions to FBI agents that they were to keep pursuing the work within the authority they had.
Others further down the FBI chain of command, however, said agents were given a much starker instruction on the case: “Stand down.” When agents questioned why they weren’t allowed to take more aggressive steps, they said they were told the order had come from the deputy director—Mr. McCabe.

Others familiar with the matter deny Mr. McCabe or any other senior FBI official gave such a stand-down instruction.

For agents who already felt uneasy about FBI leadership’s handling of the Clinton Foundation case, the moment only deepened their concerns, these people said. For those who felt the probe hadn’t yet found significant evidence of criminal conduct, the leadership’s approach was the right response.

In September, agents on the foundation case asked to see the emails contained on nongovernment laptops that had been searched as part of the Clinton email case, but that request was rejected by prosecutors at the Eastern District of New York, in Brooklyn. Those emails were given to the FBI based on grants of partial immunity and limited-use agreements, meaning agents could only use them for the purpose of investigating possible mishandling of classified information.

Some FBI agents were dissatisfied with that answer, and asked for permission to make a similar request to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, according to people familiar with the matter. Mr. McCabe, these people said, told them no and added that they couldn’t “go prosecutor-shopping.”

Not long after that discussion, FBI agents informed the bureau’s leaders about the Weiner laptop, prompting Mr. Comey’s disclosure to Congress and setting off the furor that promises to consume the final days of a tumultuous campaign.
Officials had to await a court order to begin reviewing the emails—which they received over the weekend, according to a person familiar with the matter—because they were uncovered in an unrelated probe of Mr. Weiner.

The new investigative effort, disclosed by FBI Director James Comey on Friday, shows a bureau at times in sharp internal disagreement over matters related to the Clintons, and how to handle those matters fairly and carefully in the middle of a national election campaign. Even as the probe of Mrs. Clinton’s email use wound down in July, internal disagreements within the bureau and the Justice Department surrounding the Clintons’ family philanthropy heated up, according to people familiar with the matter.

The latest development began in early October when New York-based FBI officials notified Andrew McCabe, the bureau’s second-in-command, that while investigating Mr. Weiner for possibly sending sexually charged messages to a teenage minor, they had recovered a laptop. Many of the 650,000 emails on the computer, they said, were from the accounts of Ms. Abedin, according to people familiar with the matter.

Those emails stretched back years, these people said, and were on a laptop that hadn’t previously come up in the Clinton email probe. Ms. Abedin said in late August that the couple were separating.

The FBI had searched the computer while looking for child pornography, people familiar with the matter said, but the warrant they used didn’t give them authority to search for matters related to Mrs. Clinton’s email arrangement at the State Department. Mr. Weiner has denied sending explicit or indecent messages to the minor.

In their initial review of the laptop, the metadata showed many messages, apparently in the thousands, that were either sent to or from the private email server at Mrs. Clinton’s home that had been the focus of so much investigative effort for the FBI. Senior FBI officials decided to let the Weiner investigators proceed with a closer examination of the metadata on the computer, and report back to them.

At a meeting early last week of senior Justice Department and FBI officials, a member of the department’s senior national-security staff asked for an update on the Weiner laptop, the people familiar with the matter said. At that point, officials realized that no one had acted to obtain a warrant, these people said.

Mr. McCabe then instructed the email investigators to talk to the Weiner investigators and see whether the laptop’s contents could be relevant to the Clinton email probe, these people said. After the investigators spoke, the agents agreed it was potentially relevant.

Mr. Comey was given an update, decided to go forward with the case and notified Congress on Friday, with explosive results. Senior Justice Department officials had warned the FBI that telling Congress would violate policies against overt actions that could affect an election, and some within the FBI have been unhappy at Mr. Comey’s repeated public statements on the probe, going back to his press conference on the subject in July.

The back-and-forth reflects how the bureau is probing several matters related, directly or indirectly, to Mrs. Clinton and her inner circle.

New details show that senior law-enforcement officials repeatedly voiced skepticism of the strength of the evidence in a bureau investigation of the Clinton Foundation, sought to condense what was at times a sprawling cross-country effort, and, according to some people familiar with the matter, told agents to limit their pursuit of the case. The probe of the foundation began more than a year ago to determine whether financial crimes or influence peddling occurred related to the charity.

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New York mayoral candidate Anthony Weiner and his wife, Huma Abedin, attended a news conference in New York in 2013. Mr. Weiner had attempted to revive his career with a bid for New York City mayor, but that effort was doomed after a website published lewd photos that he had evidently sent to another woman. PHOTO: ERIC THAYER/REUTERS
Some investigators grew frustrated, viewing FBI leadership as uninterested in probing the charity, these people said. Others involved disagreed sharply, defending FBI bosses and saying Mr. McCabe in particular was caught between an increasingly acrimonious fight for control between the Justice Department and FBI agents pursuing the Clinton Foundation case.

It isn’t unusual for field agents to favor a more aggressive approach than supervisors and prosecutors think is merited. But the internal debates about the Clinton Foundationshow the high stakes when such disagreements occur surrounding someone who is running for president.

The Wall Street Journal reported last weekthat Mr. McCabe’s wife, Jill McCabe, received $467,500 in campaign funds in late 2015 from the political-action committee of Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, a longtime ally of the Clintons and, until he was elected governor in November 2013, a Clinton Foundation board member.

Mr. McAuliffe had supported Dr. McCabe in the hopes she and a handful of other Democrats might help win a majority in the state Senate. Dr. McCabe lost her race last November, and Democrats failed to win their majority.

A spokesman for the governor has said that “any insinuation that his support was tied to anything other than his desire to elect candidates who would help pass his agenda is ridiculous.”

Dr. McCabe told the Journal, “Once I decided to run, my husband had no formal role in my campaign other than to be” supportive.

In February of this year, Mr. McCabe ascended from the No. 3 position at the FBI to the deputy director post. When he assumed that role, officials say, he started overseeing the probe into Mrs. Clinton’s use of a private email server for government work when she was secretary of state.

FBI officials have said Mr. McCabe had no role in the Clinton email probe until he became deputy director, and by then his wife’s campaign was over.

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But other Clinton-related investigations were under way within the FBI, and they have been the subject of internal debate for months, according to people familiar with the matter.

Early this year, four FBI field offices—New York, Los Angeles, Washington and Little Rock, Ark.—were collecting information about the Clinton Foundation to see if there was evidence of financial crimes or influence-peddling, according to people familiar with the matter.

Los Angeles agents had picked up information about the Clinton Foundation from an unrelated public-corruption case and had issued some subpoenas for bank records related to the foundation, these people said.

The Washington field office was probing financial relationships involving Mr. McAuliffe before he became a Clinton Foundation board member, these people said. Mr. McAuliffe has denied any wrongdoing, and his lawyer has said the probe is focused on whether he failed to register as an agent of a foreign entity.

Clinton Foundation officials have long denied any wrongdoing, saying it is a well-run charity that has done immense good.

The FBI field office in New York had done the most work on the Clinton Foundation case and received help from the FBI field office in Little Rock, the people familiar with the matter said.

In February, FBI officials made a presentation to the Justice Department, according to these people. By all accounts, the meeting didn’t go well.

Some said that is because the FBI didn’t present compelling evidence to justify more aggressive pursuit of the Clinton Foundation, and that the career anticorruption prosecutors in the room simply believed it wasn’t a very strong case. Others said that from the start, the Justice Department officials were stern, icy and dismissive of the case.

“That was one of the weirdest meetings I’ve ever been to,” one participant told others afterward, according to people familiar with the matter.

Anticorruption prosecutors at the Justice Department told the FBI at the meeting they wouldn’t authorize more aggressive investigative techniques, such as subpoenas, formal witness interviews, or grand-jury activity. But the FBI officials believed they were well within their authority to pursue the leads and methods already under way, these people said.

About a week after Mr. Comey’s July announcement that he was recommending against any prosecution in the Clinton email case, the FBI sought to refocus the Clinton Foundation probe, with Mr. McCabe deciding the FBI’s New York office would take the lead, with assistance from Little Rock.

BN-QN452_FBIEMA_P_20161030133118.jpg
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Director James Comey testified before the House Judiciary Committee in September on a variety of subjects including the investigation into former U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton's email server. PHOTO: WIN MCNAMEE/GETTY IMAGES
The Washington field office, FBI officials decided, would focus on a separate matter involving Mr. McAuliffe. Mr. McCabe had decided earlier in the spring that he would continue to recuse himself from that probe, given the governor’s contributions to his wife’s former political campaign.

Within the FBI, the decision was viewed with skepticism by some, who felt the probe would be stronger if the foundation and McAuliffe matters were combined. Others, particularly Justice Department anticorruption prosecutors, felt that both probes were weak, based largely on publicly available information, and had found little that would merit expanded investigative authority.

According to a person familiar with the probes, on Aug. 12, a senior Justice Department official called Mr. McCabe to voice his displeasure at finding that New York FBI agents were still openly pursuing the Clinton Foundation probe during the election season. Mr. McCabe said agents still had the authority to pursue the issue as long as they didn’t use overt methods requiring Justice Department approvals.

The Justice Department official was “very pissed off,” according to one person close to Mr. McCabe, and pressed him to explain why the FBI was still chasing a matter the department considered dormant. Others said the Justice Department was simply trying to make sure FBI agents were following longstanding policy not to make overt investigative moves that could be seen as trying to influence an election. Those rules discourage investigators from making any such moves before a primary or general election, and, at a minimum, checking with anticorruption prosecutors before doing so.

“Are you telling me that I need to shut down a validly predicated investigation?” Mr. McCabe asked, according to people familiar with the conversation. After a pause, the official replied, “Of course not,” these people said.

For Mr. McCabe’s defenders, the exchange showed how he was stuck between an FBI office eager to pour more resources into a case and Justice Department prosecutors who didn’t think much of the case, one person said. Those people said that following the call, Mr. McCabe reiterated past instructions to FBI agents that they were to keep pursuing the work within the authority they had.

Others further down the FBI chain of command, however, said agents were given a much starker instruction on the case: “Stand down.” When agents questioned why they weren’t allowed to take more aggressive steps, they said they were told the order had come from the deputy director—Mr. McCabe.

Others familiar with the matter deny Mr. McCabe or any other senior FBI official gave such a stand-down instruction.

For agents who already felt uneasy about FBI leadership’s handling of the Clinton Foundation case, the moment only deepened their concerns, these people said. For those who felt the probe hadn’t yet found significant evidence of criminal conduct, the leadership’s approach was the right response.

In September, agents on the foundation case asked to see the emails contained on nongovernment laptops that had been searched as part of the Clinton email case, but that request was rejected by prosecutors at the Eastern District of New York, in Brooklyn. Those emails were given to the FBI based on grants of partial immunity and limited-use agreements, meaning agents could only use them for the purpose of investigating possible mishandling of classified information.

Some FBI agents were dissatisfied with that answer, and asked for permission to make a similar request to federal prosecutors in Manhattan, according to people familiar with the matter. Mr. McCabe, these people said, told them no and added that they couldn’t “go prosecutor-shopping.”

Not long after that discussion, FBI agents informed the bureau’s leaders about the Weiner laptop, prompting Mr. Comey’s disclosure to Congress and setting off the furor that promises to consume the final days of a tumultuous campaign.

Write to Devlin Barrett at devlin.barrett@wsj.com
 
That's why I don't understand why electors just vote what their state won. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me, unless there are state laws regarding this as well.
They usually do rely on the state's popular vote, since it is winner take all. However, in Nebraska and Maine, it is distributed by popular vote in a congressional district.
 
Michael Reagan, interviewed on FNN, has vouchsafed the news that Weiner yielded up the devices on his own accord, without a warrant from the FBI. This hints he has struck some kind of immunity deal.
 
Way off topic but... I wonder if an Atheist could ever become President? These "Christians" ain't doing much to help America, and they don't act very Christian either.
An openly-admitting Atheist? Probably not. If part of the public wasn't approving, it would eventually be used to smear the candidate.

Similarly, there is a video from Rebel Media that takes a look into 1 side of the polls & another side (it ends in 1 side says Hillary has a commanding lead, the other says Trump is ahead barely to save you the watch). But, the reporter shares an interesting statistic that might answer your question. He says, "In almost every Presidential election since 1960, the person that wins the most votes amongst the Catholics wins the Presidency". The video sources IBD/TIPP for Catholics at Trump 46%, Hillary 41%.
Exactly. The whole "interfering with the election" thing is just a smokescreen and scare tactic, attempting to bring Comey into line. That ship has sailed, unfortunately. Ironic how some of the top Dems were praising Comey during and after the earlier investigation into Clinton and have now reversed course completely.
I believe it may have been Podesta who asked Comey to release everything. As some have pointed out though, they were asking Clinton to do the same long ago. Right now, when asked why don't they, Robby Mook said they don't know what exact e-mails Comey has and it would be premature.
Can she actually Pardon herself?
The train of thought going for some far right-wingers is that Obama will pardon her, or that she will pardon Obama if she wins and anything is found against him.
 
An openly-admitting Atheist? Probably not. If part of the public wasn't approving, it would eventually be used to smear the candidate.

You're right. It's incredible in 2016 though... a large portion of voters wouldn't trust the nuclear codes and the State of the Nation to somebody who didn't believe in bible stories. There's no reason a christer shouldn't be President, of course, it's just terrifying that it seems mandatory.

Still, that's probably not the most terrifying thing about the 2016 election, I guess :D
 
You're right. It's incredible in 2016 though... a large portion of voters wouldn't trust the nuclear codes and the State of the Nation to somebody who didn't believe in bible stories. There's no reason a christer shouldn't be President, of course, it's just terrifying that it seems mandatory.

Still, that's probably not the most terrifying thing about the 2016 election, I guess :D
Keep in mind there are several States where they ban athiests from holding office (even though it wouldn't stand federally).
 
Donna Brazile removed from CNN after learning she sent campaign questions. CNN denies any involvement, but "completely uncomfortable" with her actions.
Her departure was announced Monday amid fresh revelations that she sent questions to Hillary Clinton's campaign in advance of a CNN debate and a CNN-TV One town hall.

In a statement, CNN said it was "completely uncomfortable with what we have learned about her interactions with the Clinton campaign while she was a CNN contributor."

CNN said it "never gave Brazile access to any questions, prep material, attendee list, background information or meetings in advance of a town hall or debate."
http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/31/media/donna-brazile-cnn-resignation/index.html

And President Obama stating he does not believe Comey is trying to influence the election.
“The President doesn’t believe that Director Comey is intentionally trying to influence the outcome of an election,” Earnest said. “The President doesn’t believe that he’s secretly strategizing to benefit one candidate or one political party. He’s in a tough spot and he’s the one who will be in a position to defend his actions in the face of significant criticism”
http://time.com/4551972/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-barack-obama-james-comey/?xid=homepage

CNN & Obama have been repeatedly called strong Hillary supporters, so some have taken this as a sign of easing away from her campaign & taking a more neutral stance after the re-opening.
 
Donna Brazile removed from CNN after learning she sent campaign questions. CNN denies any involvement, but "completely uncomfortable" with her actions.

http://money.cnn.com/2016/10/31/media/donna-brazile-cnn-resignation/index.html

And President Obama stating he does not believe Comey is trying to influence the election.

http://time.com/4551972/hillary-clinton-emails-fbi-barack-obama-james-comey/?xid=homepage

CNN & Obama have been repeatedly called strong Hillary supporters, so some have taken this as a sign of easing away from her campaign & taking a more neutral stance after the re-opening.
The whole Donna Brazile thing only serves to help confirm Trump's assertion along with Bernie Sander's suggestion, that they aren't playing on a level playing field.
 
They're damned if they do, and damned if they don't. They can come forward and be seen as trying to manipulate the outcome of the election, or they can wait until after the election and be accused of being in Clinton's pocket.
Comey and McCabe may be seeking to avoid being taken down in the undertow of scandal. They must play the game very carefully to preserve their careers and the reputation of their proud agency. Obama has some influence in this situation, and his press secretary seems to be going light on Comey today. Has Obama canceled his scheduled campaign appearances with Clinton? Is he distancing himself from her? Is the Clinton ship taking water and sinking?
 
Yeh, it's more exciting than F1 at the moment - there's just a 4 point gap between the two contenders with just two weeks of the season left. Hillary has had a couple of mechanical failures but Donald has had several spectacular failures including a DNF in Mexico. Once they were actually good friends, but now they are fierce rivals - even though it appears that they are in fact on the same team.
So... Hamilton's fault?
 
Comey and McCabe may be seeking to avoid being taken down in the undertow of scandal. They must play the game very carefully to preserve their careers and the reputation of their proud agency. Obama has some influence in this situation, and his press secretary seems to be going light on Comey today. Has Obama canceled his scheduled campaign appearances with Clinton? Is he distancing himself from her? Is the Clinton ship taking water and sinking?
Maybe Obama is letting his minions do the talking for him while maintaining the appearance of neutrality. Eric Holder has a piece in the Washington Post already deciding that Comey's statement has allowed, "misinformation to be spread by partisans with less pure intentions"
 
Comey and McCabe may be seeking to avoid being taken down in the undertow of scandal. They must play the game very carefully to preserve their careers and the reputation of their proud agency
That seems to be their rationale, though it was strange that Comey had concerns about discussing Russian involvement so close to the election, but had no such reservations this time around.
 
Maybe Obama is letting his minions do the talking for him while maintaining the appearance of neutrality
As a man, he is obviously not neutral, but that doesn't mean that, as a president, he can't act with the level of integrity that he proved over the years, and that few leaders across the planet had, have and will ever have.
 
As a man, he is obviously not neutral, but that doesn't mean that, as a president, he can't act with the level of integrity that he proved over the years, and that few leaders across the planet had, have and will ever have.
Who is this "he" you're talking about? Surely not Mr. "If you like your plan you can keep it" "it's not a tax" (etc) Obama!

I'll concede he has more integrity than HRC, but that's not saying much since she has none.
 
I've always been quite fascinated with the electoral college system. The fact that faithless electors are not only possible, but in a lot of states not prohibited, is bizarre.

In an odd kind of way it makes votes seem like a currency exchange. I'm aware that it is based on a representation of the total population of the United States per state but it comes across to me that an EC vote in one state could be considered 'worth more' than in another state.

You can prove anything with statistics and the EC system makes for some interesting reading. The 2000 election between Bush and Gore showed that Bush lost the popular vote by just half a percent (47.9% to Gore's 48.4%) yet won 271 EC votes (30 states) to Gore's 266 (20 states + DC).

Another interesting election which has a claim to being the closest election in US history is that of 1876. Rutherford Hayes beat Samuel Tilden "by just one vote" in controversial circumstances; the results stood at 184 to Tilden and 165 to Hayes with 20 EC votes left in dispute. The commission to arbitrate these 20 votes itself was composed 8-7 in favour of Hayes' party and he controversially but unsurprisingly was awarded the 20 votes to win 185-184. Tilden not only beat Hayes in the popular vote but also secured a majority of the popular vote (50.9% to Hayes' 47.9%) and still lost the election.

An openly-admitting Atheist? Probably not. If part of the public wasn't approving, it would eventually be used to smear the candidate.

You're right. It's incredible in 2016 though... a large portion of voters wouldn't trust the nuclear codes and the State of the Nation to somebody who didn't believe in bible stories. There's no reason a christer shouldn't be President, of course, it's just terrifying that it seems mandatory.

As an aside, in Slovakia the Prime Minister Robert Fico (head of the executive) refuses to speak to one Slovak medium after it harrassed him non-stop about his supposed atheism in the second most-recent elections. Slovakia is one of those very Catholic European countries where being a Catholic is still pre-requisite part of the traditional establishment.

He was continuously pressed about his religious beliefs due to his former membership of the Communist Party of Czechoslovakia where he confirmed his atheism on his registration form but these days he woos voters with how his Catholicism has played a large part in his life. So in order to fit in with the political atmosphere of the 1980s he had to play up to his atheism and to fit in with the political atmosphere of the 2010s he now has to play up to his supposed Catholicism.

Make no mistake, he is a deeply unpopular politician for very good reasons but I feel sorry for him in this one regard. It just shouldn't matter whether he or any politician believes in god or not.

So... Hamilton's fault?

Yes
 
It just shouldn't matter whether he or any politician believes in god or not.
And yet, it does. Even in Australia, where religion probably isn't as prominent as in other countries - Julia Gillard was a self-confessed atheist, and deeply unpopular for it (and also because of the way she took power, and also because she was a woman); following her dismissal from office, a lot of people thought that she was untrustworthy because of her atheism.

That said, one of her successors - Tony Abbott - kept trying to invoke Christian values (he once said "Jesus would have been anti-immigration"), and he was even more unpopular.
 
Ok, that's a bit beyond reality. Ms. Clinton, how often do you and Bill have sex? Mr. Trump, exactly how long is your penis (and let's get hand size while we're at it just to settle the argument)?

Bahahaha!

Okay, you got me there.

In my defense, though, is it not Anthony Weiner's wiener that has brought us to round two of Clinton's email scandal?
 
Abedin will probably commit suicide by a couple of bullets in the back of her head.
..from a passing car.
At which point investigators determined that she had gotten back up, walked down the block and into the foyer of the Trump Tower where she prised open the elevator doors before falling down the shaft and landing on six more bullets.
 
I've got to say Trumps got my vote. I'm loving everything about his campaign so far. This is what we need.
For sure, the logical conclusion to the first two sentences is that you actually need a well deserved Trump.
Don't forget to vote.
 
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