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You don't have to boycott competely, just buy NFS The Run used.
Porsche Not in FM4 Confirmed (Originally Porsche may be in Forza 4. Check this out).
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You can do what I did, buy used at gamestop and see if the code in the box still works. If not go back to gamestop and go through the used boxes and use your cell phone to take pics of all the codes in the boxes and hopefully find one that works. I did that for NBA Live 09 back in the day. I think it depends on the area. Where I live I don't think many people go online with their games so alot of returns still have fresh codes.
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Thats called stealing.
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That's called "pot luck". Personally I don't think it's stealing at all. Gamestop should ask the guys returning if they've used the codes or not. When I purchase used I shouldn't have to "hope" that a code is good or not.
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Hey, I completely agree with you. But, there are still some folks here who will now "boycott" any EA title. Personally, I find it a tad bit silly to say, "I'm not going to buy Battlefield 3 or Mass Effect 3 because EA wouldn't let T10 have Porsche."
As if boycotting BioWare or any other subsidiary of EA is suddenly going to change EA's mind about letting a completely different developer use a license for another genre.
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I should , as any customer, expect to be able to get all the features listed on the back of the box no matter if I buy used or new OR their needs to be in CLEAR PLAIN ENGLISH (or native country's language) something telling me otherwise which isn't the case. Believe it or not very few people know of this. The majority of the people don't know this.
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Wait a second...misread something in your post.
Anyway, once the game leaves the companies hands, it's no longer their responsibility.
That's like buying an old used car, going to the dealer and demanding they replace the transmission because the guy you bought it from told you it worked.
If you buy the game from the company(<that being the important part), then they guarantee that it includes the features it says it does, and that it works properly.
I'm fairly sure there's a whole bunch of stuff in the EA TOS that mentions several times that they aren't responsible for missing content in used copies of the game.
And it tells you to read the TOS before you register to play the games.
Just because the person who you bought it from(In this case Gamestop) didn't give you everything the case said was there, doesn't mean you can justify stealing from EA, and the next person to come in and buy that game.
Anyway, once the game leaves the companies hands, it's no longer their responsibility.
That's like buying an old used car, going to the dealer and demanding they replace the transmission because the guy you bought it from told you it worked.
If you buy the game from the company(<that being the important part), then they guarantee that it includes the features it says it does, and that it works properly.
I'm fairly sure there's a whole bunch of stuff in the EA TOS that mentions several times that they aren't responsible for missing content in used copies of the game.
And it tells you to read the TOS before you register to play the games.
Just because the person who you bought it from(In this case Gamestop) didn't give you everything the case said was there, doesn't mean you can justify stealing from EA, and the next person to come in and buy that game.
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No that's like buying a 6-speed sports car and demanding they install the 4-6 gears you find out are missing after you get it on the road and only have 4.
The EA TOS is read AFTER you already have the game in the system. I have never seen a copy of the TOS sitting on the shelf next to any game I bought.
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Probally because its used and the previous owner took it out....
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No. It's not. Unless you buy the car used. In which case it'd the sellers responsibility, not the manufacturers.
If you bought a car new from the manufacturer and that happened, I'd see you're point, but we're talking used, not bran new.
If you go buy the game from EA, and you don't get access, then you'd have a case, but you're not buying it new directly from the company, you're buying it used from Gamestop, so it's their responsibility. So before you go stealing from EA, maybe you should talk to Gamestop.
Also, on the subject of the boycott, I'm probably not going with that. I doubt enough people are going to boycott their games to make even a slight dent in sales. And even that dent will be patched and then some by people who buy EA racers because they're the only ones with Porsche. That said, I probably won't buy EA racers because most of them are bad. All I'm buying from EA in the foreseeable future is ME3, and BF3.
I'd be willing to bet money that EA's lawyers saw this reaction coming, and figured us getting upset would spread the word for them. EA's advertisers have used peoples anger as an advertising tool for a very long time, and I don't see this as being any different.
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Once EA sells the game, according to you, what happens is no longer their problem. So a code in a used case shouldn't be their problem either. I can see if I'm going to Gamestop and breaking open new games trying to get codes but if I'm getting codes in used games, that supposedly EA has no more responsibility for then it's not their concern what happens then. If they want their codes to ONLY be used by the original purchasers then they need to have some self-destruct paper or something. "You've got 1 hour to enter this code or this paper will burst into flames".
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Did any EA/NFS (or any other devs) games ever feature Porsche and RUF? I remember reading there was one way back. I'm just wondering if RUF would have to be dropped like it's hot should the license ever come the way of the franchise again (applies to FM & GT I guess).
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I'd rather EA stop this nonsense with the codes thing. I agree with TO, if I buy the game, I should expect to get all the features listed on the box, used or new. That's how it's worked in the past, and I see no difference now. If XBOX players have to pay $60.00 for Xbox Live, and then $40.00 for a used game, they shouldn't have to pay another $10.00 to enjoy it.
I can't wait until EA get gone.
I can't wait until EA get gone.
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I agree. The cost new should factor-in and cover all the server costs. EA have gone too far with the online pass.
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^The cost new does factor that in, that's why the code is in the box when you buy it new.
We were talking about used though.
Anyway, you're accessing EA's online servers. And you only payed Gamestop. That's steeling from EA. And even though the game copy itself isn't EA's problem, people accessing their servers without paying is.
Again, just because Gamestop didn't include what it said on the box, doesn't mean you can just steal from EA.
Does EA need the money to keep it's servers running? Hell no. But does that mean you can just take it for free because they don't need it? Also no.
Just because you bought something without making sure everything was there doesn't mean you can just go taking things that other people had to pay for.
Is EA a bunch of greedy d:censored:s for doing this? Yes, but that doesn't automatically justify stealing things from them when Gamestop is the one selling the game without what was advertised.
And EA going away, I doubt that's going to happen any time soon unfortunately. They might be greedy, ruthless, and just an all around terrible company to deal with, but they're pulling in more money than they know what to do with because of that.
We were talking about used though.
Anyway, you're accessing EA's online servers. And you only payed Gamestop. That's steeling from EA. And even though the game copy itself isn't EA's problem, people accessing their servers without paying is.
Again, just because Gamestop didn't include what it said on the box, doesn't mean you can just steal from EA.
Does EA need the money to keep it's servers running? Hell no. But does that mean you can just take it for free because they don't need it? Also no.
Just because you bought something without making sure everything was there doesn't mean you can just go taking things that other people had to pay for.
Is EA a bunch of greedy d:censored:s for doing this? Yes, but that doesn't automatically justify stealing things from them when Gamestop is the one selling the game without what was advertised.
And EA going away, I doubt that's going to happen any time soon unfortunately. They might be greedy, ruthless, and just an all around terrible company to deal with, but they're pulling in more money than they know what to do with because of that.
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crispychicken49
Buy a used car that is satellite radio equipped. The original owner probably got a year free when they bought the car new, but as a second hand owner you are not entitled to the free perk.
The 60 for xbox live is irrelevant as it has nothing to do with ea.
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Thats correct. Buying a game new included the CODE. Buying used does NOT entitle you to the same perk. Sooo...yeah. Thats why there is a code...to give people an incentive to buy NEW.
Live has nothing to do with it. When you buy the game NEW you DO get everything with it. Buying it from Gamestop USED doesnt entitle you to everything. Its no longer from EA once its been "traded in" by a customer.
LOL. Then talk to Codemasters too. They have the same setup introduced with D3 I believe.
Exactally. 👍
What people FAIL to realize is that game companies dont make money off of used game sales. They count there sales by amounts sold to resellers, not end users (you). Game companies that do trade in make GREAT money off used games because they buy cheap, sell high, and dont have to purchase from the publisher anymore. Why do you think there are SOOO many perks to buy used?
Game companies started the online pass, VIP content, and other little deals to recoupe some of those lost dollars that Gamestop is taking away from them. If anyone should boycott anything it should be buying used games.
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Makes one wonder why developers are still giving pre-order bonuses through outlets that also deal in used games. The used market has obviously impacted devs.to the point they are doing access codes and even sony looks to be humping the wagon when resistance 3 is released.
Any who......... Porsche/forza......
We now return you back to the topic at hand.
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Makes one wonder why developers are still giving pre-order bonuses through outlets that also deal in used games. The used market has obviously impacted devs.to the point they are doing access codes and even sony looks to be humping the wagon when resistance 3 is released.
Any who......... Porsche/forza......
We now return you back to the topic at hand.
Its because Gamestop/EBGames has become too big an oulet to ignore. Sadly. Its a nessecery evil basically. Best Buy's are now doing trade ins. Actually doing it much better than Gamestop, for trade in value and in store creds.
The average person buying games doesnt know the impact used games have on the game development/publisher industry. Heck look at the posters above...they have no clue as to why online passes are becoming more popular. And dont tell me a soccer mom knows buying used hurts the dev's. They see a cheaper price and think cool.
Oh yeah, Forza, Porche, Evil EA, Boycotts, etc. etc...
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I'm sorry guys but you guys aren't making much sense. You sound as if I buy it used and get an unused code in the box off jump street I'm supposed to just throw it away. "Oh , can't used that even though it's a good code. EA may not want me to have that even though the Gamestop employer never told me and left the code in the case. EA has nothing written on the case saying 'In case of buying used please destroy any codes and buy from us'". Sorry man but for me that's not gonna happen.
This is rather stupid if you ask me. If my gamestop has a used case with a code in it I'm getting that code. Now I COULD keep returning the game and buying it until I get the case with the used good code which is stupid as hell or I could get all the codes and find one that works and toss the rest for the next man to find.
EDIT: And I'll take it one further. Oh the poor dev is hurting off used game sales. Here's a freaking hint, how about making a game people actually want to KEEP. Used game problem solved.
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True story.
I'll keep playing FM3 just as I still play MW2.
I'll keep playing FM3 just as I still play MW2.
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I'll still play it occasionally as my Porsche simulator. No other game offers Porsche married to decent driving physics and graphics. In my opinion of course.
I will really miss the Flying Lizard ALMS car.
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With games being connected online all the time, watch EA require Turn 10 to send out a patch that deletes our Porsches from FM3 if we are connected to the internet.
