Post-1.03 in-game Update
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I think it got rid of the January 1st date in the Red Bull challenge, it just says January 2014 now.
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1.03 fixed that
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No that message changed after 1.03 patch
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It's fixed the bug where you couldn't race x2012 Juniors online
edit; scratch that, maybe not... I was just told that by someone on here but I just tested it and the problem still exists
This isn't a bug. To race with the JR all you have to do is set the lobby to only X2014 Jr cars. The same goes to any variety of go karts in the game.
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I'm not sure if anyone's noticed this, but GTPlanet's primary function is as a resource, for people who know more about the game to help people who know less. Discussions can take place around this.
In a thread querying exactly what is contained within a small, in-game, post-update patch, the topic is questions, answers and discussions about the contents of that patch. Weighing in with little digs about your dissatisfaction with aspects of the game doesn't provide anyone with any answers and thus doesn't belong here. There are, of course, many threads where the topic is your dissatisfaction with aspects of the game and thus comments of this type are welcome there. Given that these threads exist and persist without censure, the notion that GTPlanet only permits positive comments on Gran Turismo is foolishly misguided (at best).
If you don't wish to help answer the topic, do not post in it. This isn't a complex concept.
In a thread querying exactly what is contained within a small, in-game, post-update patch, the topic is questions, answers and discussions about the contents of that patch. Weighing in with little digs about your dissatisfaction with aspects of the game doesn't provide anyone with any answers and thus doesn't belong here. There are, of course, many threads where the topic is your dissatisfaction with aspects of the game and thus comments of this type are welcome there. Given that these threads exist and persist without censure, the notion that GTPlanet only permits positive comments on Gran Turismo is foolishly misguided (at best).
If you don't wish to help answer the topic, do not post in it. This isn't a complex concept.
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Will not happen. "Behavior" like that is constantly dragging down the quality of discussion on GTPlanet for last 5 years.
I am not an sociologist or psychologist to make a professional-assesment about it, but in my opinion it has to do with overall change of approach in communication on the internet, especially on various boards that are not GTPlanet - and spill-over effect of aforementioned behavior that flooded the GTP in the times when GT5: Prologue released and when overall "online-related" contents became a reality.
In the past, we were all very aware of shortcomings of either GT4: Prologue or GT4, but we had dedicated threads to discuss those, while in the same time there was no flooding of various "rinse-repeat" subjects nor similar "flaming" behavior. We had dedicated threads to discuss problems and opinions about sounds, AI, incorrect specs, whishlists, whatever... and all members respected that, there was no creation of similar treads with similar subjects every 2 days and people were using both "search" functionality as well as actually going through board-pages to find the threads about the subjects they were interested to participate.
It all went to hell since GT5: P and it is going worse and worse with each year IMO. You simply can't start any normal, objective or positive discussion about anything without serious derailing with commentaries that only bring negativity or highlight some either subjective or objective problematic aspect of the game. Posters simply jump-in the tread and start their own negative campaign about some issue that is - in 99% of the examples - either already known, already discussed to death 10000 times or it is simply something that does not belong to particular discussion.
When such poster is challenged by other posters who does not want to see their thread derailed, the flamewar begins. He defends his position of "constructive criticism" or "free speech" or "purchaser entitlement", often arguing for pages and pages because he gets caught into quoting-fight and whole thread gets derailed to nowhere.
Just make a quick search about topic-title subject such as: sound (58 threads!), AI, bugs & glitches.. whatever keyword you choose there is at least 5 similar threads with span of less then one month discussing the same subject all over again.
Rinse and repeat.
I presume all GTP regulars are aware of examples for every aforementioned "behavior" so I do not want to waste time into finding examples of it, but I think all of us know what we're talking about. But ultimately, such behavior is deeply deconstructive, it creates vast chaos in readability of the forum and at the end it discourages any positive discussion. I do not know how many times have I read about something called "GT apologists", "Kaz private army", "GT defenders" or whatever aimed at people that simply tried to keep some discussion in boundaries of subject or were either giving explanations of some design-decisions that somebody personal didn't like or trying to say how "constructive criticism" discussion is going on in some other thread.
What is also most problematic IMO is how such behavior discourages discussions that would benefit the GT series in the long term, giving the proven fact how PD has specialized people that visit GTP regularly in search of comments, bug reports or simply feedback about something. Such "behavior" is ultimately killing the visibility need for such practice (for example, we have 5 different threads discussing "endurance" races glitch that came with 1.03 on first 2 pages of the OT)
Also, Phil_75, with above I do not accuse you personally for described "behavior" because I didn't check your post history ATM, I was simply writing in general way.
EDIT: Andrew, I didn't see your post above, I was typing this. You took away my context, damn
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Will not happen. "Behavior" like that is constantly dragging down the quality of discussion on GTPlanet for last 5 years.
I am not an sociologist or psychologist to make a professional-assesment about it, but in my opinion it has to do with overall change of approach in communication on the internet, especially on various boards that are not GTPlanet - and spill-over effect of aforementioned behavior that flooded the GTP in the times when GT5: Prologue released and when overall "online-related" contents became a reality.
In the past, we were all very aware of shortcomings of either GT4: Prologue or GT4, but we had dedicated threads to discuss those, while in the same time there was no flooding of various "rinse-repeat" subjects nor similar "flaming" behavior. We had dedicated threads to discuss problems and opinions about sounds, AI, incorrect specs, whishlists, whatever... and all members respected that, there was no creation of similar treads with similar subjects every 2 days and people were using both "search" functionality as well as actually going through board-pages to find the threads about the subjects they were interested to participate.
It all went to hell since GT5: P and it is going worse and worse with each year IMO. You simply can't start any normal, objective or positive discussion about anything without serious derailing with commentaries that only bring negativity or highlight some either subjective or objective problematic aspect of the game. Posters simply jump-in the tread and start their own negative campaign about some issue that is - in 99% of the examples - either already known, already discussed to death 10000 times or it is simply something that does not belong to particular discussion.
When such poster is challenged by other posters who does not want to see their thread derailed, the flamewar begins. He defends his position of "constructive criticism" or "free speech" or "purchaser entitlement", often arguing for pages and pages because he gets caught into quoting-fight and whole thread gets derailed to nowhere.
Just make a quick search about topic-title subject such as: sound (58 threads!), AI, bugs & glitches.. whatever keyword you choose there is at least 5 similar threads with span of less then one month discussing the same subject all over again.
Rinse and repeat.
I presume all GTP regulars are aware of examples for every aforementioned "behavior" so I do not want to waste time into finding examples of it, but I think all of us know what we're talking about. But ultimately, such behavior is deeply deconstructive, it creates vast chaos in readability of the forum and at the end it discourages any positive discussion. I do not know how many times have I read about something called "GT apologists", "Kaz private army", "GT defenders" or whatever aimed at people that simply tried to keep some discussion in boundaries of subject or were either giving explanations of some design-decisions that somebody personal didn't like or trying to say how "constructive criticism" discussion is going on in some other thread.
What is also most problematic IMO is how such behavior discourages discussions that would benefit the GT series in the long term, giving the proven fact how PD has specialized people that visit GTP regularly in search of comments, bug reports or simply feedback about something. Such "behavior" is ultimately killing the visibility need for such practice (for example, we have 5 different threads discussing "endurance" races glitch that came with 1.03 on first 2 pages of the OT)
Also, Phil_75, with above I do not accuse you personally for described "behavior" because I didn't check your post history ATM, I was simply writing in general way.
EDIT: Andrew, I didn't see your post above, I was typing this. You took away my context, damn
This post should be stickied. Nice one, as always @amar212 .
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You can't tell much by the size of the file other than if there are graphics in it. You'd be surprised what you can do with 1mb in terms of code or data especially when it is compressed as is probably the case. There are many things that could be corrected with a small file such as this, it is even possible that such a file could contain several fixes in it. So far the only thing I have saw that people have pointed out is the timed races thing but there could be others
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