[PRC] PTCC Parity Touring Car Championship • Amarynceos is Champion!Finished 

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So before each race it's chosen a target time all drivers must not go under. But while racing it is possible to be faster than planned like using draft. How do you deal with such issues?

You have a cap at how much faster one can be? i.e. not faster than 0.2secs than fastest time? If you driver is in a very fast lap should he lift off to avoid going too much under? There's penalties in case he does? How do you deal with faster laps due to fuel weight lifting?
 
Not yet, I'm waiting to have around 8-10 signed drivers ideally. We are 4 at the time, maybe 5 with a friend of mine from another forum, and maybe 6 with you :)
Well, I like the pressure... so sign me up.. most likely the Civic R.. #99... Im on east coast.. so 6:00 pm for me???
 
So before each race it's chosen a target time all drivers must not go under. But while racing it is possible to be faster than planned like using draft. How do you deal with such issues?

After each race I'll look at the fastest lap times. If a driver is faster than the target time on a lap, I'll take a look at it and judge if he used draft or not. If it turns out that he did, there will not be penalties. Obviously that implies an arbitrary judgment from myself (or the race stewards if we have need race stewards one day).

You have a cap at how much faster one can be? i.e. not faster than 0.2secs than fastest time? If you driver is in a very fast lap should he lift off to avoid going too much under? There's penalties in case he does? How do you deal with faster laps due to fuel weight lifting?

There will not be margin, even if you are faster by 0.001s than the target time, there will be penalties. However, the penalties will be proportional to the difference between your time and the target time. The formula will be:

(your time - target time) x 10​

So if you are faster by 0.001s on the lap, your penalty will be 0.001 x 10 = 0.01s.
If you are faster by 2s, your penalty will be 2 x 10 = 20s.

So you can be faster on a "magic lap", you won't have much penalties, thus you'll be "forgiven" for this little mistake... Except if you achieve 20 magic laps in the race, that will mean that your setup wasn't so good. ;)

About the fuel weight lifting causing faster laps, I confess I did not think about that. There are two solutions:
1. The drivers must take the fuel depletion when tuning their cars, thus testing with mid-fuel tanks for example
2. I will turn tyre/fuel depletion off

EDIT: I think I'll go with solution 1, meaning the drivers will need to test their lap times with low fuel level. However, the tire wear should balance the fuel weight lifting.

Well, I like the pressure... so sign me up.. most likely the Civic R.. #99... Im on east coast.. so 6:00 pm for me???

Great, welcome! :cheers: You're right it will be 6:00pm for you.
 
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Here is a video:


Lol, that's the old club I used to race in with Brandon, good times

I can definitely vouch that the parity system works, the purpose of the set (capped) time for those still questioning it, is to keep the field close and competitive and therefore fun.

If you find yourself in a room or club where you are at best average or less, the chances are you will not stick around for many events, and this does nothing for the strength or success of the club. If however you have a real chance of winning, it's a different story!

Not only is there more motivation but also you will find yourself amongst more exciting competition and many battles for position, winning becomes secondary to the actual competition. It will also allow you as a driver, to hone your race craft and driving skills, allow you to play around with tuning or just keep it simple and run stock(ish) cars amongst tuned variations!

The real thing here though is honesty, you must work to be close enough, but not exceed the cap time, so that there is a balance to the field.
If you sandbag, and try to save a second or two for the race, firstly you will be called out and secondly it will take away from the event.

There is only reward in winning if you earn it!

If you have 16mins to spare, watch this race I captured.
The field is small as this was one of the last races we had in the Parity Club (@BrandonW77's), but it was always close and challenging, the odd bump or two does happen, but again honesty and fair play is earned and respected amongst the club, so others know when you up to no good or make a genuine mistake.

In the vid, you will see that Brandon's car has more power and faster down the straights, but mine is setup for fast and stable cornering and braking. Which makes for some interesting racing ;)

Enjoy




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About the fuel weight lifting causing faster laps, I confess I did not think about that. There are two solutions:
1. The drivers must take the fuel depletion when tuning their cars, thus testing with mid-fuel tanks for example
2. I will turn tyre/fuel depletion off

EDIT: I think I'll go with solution 1, meaning the drivers will need to test their lap times with low fuel level. However, the tire wear should balance the fuel weight lifting.

I don't think this ever really caused any issues in the rooms I used to race in, fuel load would probably be offset by tyre wear!
I would only expect to see improved times if you only had 1/3 tank of fuel or less and fresh rubber.

Testing will help identify these points, but I think option 1 is the right answer too.

If we are all clear that "any" time under the Cap incur's a penalty as stated, then there is no argument really.
As long as the host is consistent in the regulations, they are the same for everyone and thus fair.

I reinforce my earlier point that honesty (and testing!) will pay off. We will all go under the Cap time I'm sure at some point or another. It happens, but there is a mechanism in place to accommodate it and discourage it for future events. 👍
 
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FYI for anyone that's around, I have a 30mins or so, so am running some test laps in the club lobby.
Drop in if your free, but I'm only testing due to limited time. 👍
 
does anyone mind if I copy this idea and host one that is more avaliable to australians?

You're free to organize your events mate ;) Just don't "copy" this championship, make yours as you whish, with your rules, your cars, your tracks... Also please make sure that your series is not on Friday night between 10pm and 11pm GMT.
 
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I'm looking to return to GT6, color me interested, and you have the perfect time for me! lol


Slap me in a #91. Car TBD.
 
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Do we have an updated driver list??? How many people signed up??? Enough to start racing???

Yup you can see the registered drivers on the 3rd post of this thread, right here :)

We have 6 drivers for now, hopefully a friend of mine will join too... I'm gonna wait one more week so more people can sign up, and I'll most likely schedule the pre-season race on next Friday.
 
Yup you can see the registered drivers on the 3rd post of this thread, right here :)

We have 6 drivers for now, hopefully a friend of mine will join too... I'm gonna wait one more week so more people can sign up, and I'll most likely schedule the pre-season race on next Friday.
Cool.. I'll be looking forward to that..
 
Ok, all going to plan I shall be there...

Have you given any thought to the time for this track?
I've been doing some testing on this track with RH tyres, so can give you my thoughts if you like?

As for my car, I think I'll go with the Scirroco. Its quite a beast, ;) otherwise I would be In the GT86, but trying to keep some variety on track.
 
Ok, all going to plan I shall be there...

Have you given any thought to the time for this track?
I've been doing some testing on this track with RH tyres, so can give you my thoughts if you like?

As for my car, I think I'll go with the Scirroco. Its quite a beast, ;) otherwise I would be In the GT86, but trying to keep some variety on track.

Damn I've been hesitating and I was about to choose the Scirocco too, but I may change depending on the other cars on track.
 
The target time for the two races at Cape Ring South will be:

1'18.000

I remind you that you must not be faster than this lap time otherwise penalties will be applied to your total time.

The event is up in the community club, so you can join and check the race settings if you want to practice. Remember, tyres/fuel depletion is set to 'normal', that can affect your lap time!
 
Car, wheels, Paint Scheme and Number Picked

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A little tuning required to be on target, but looking forward to Friday.

Thanks to @Tijee for organising, see you all on track 👍
 
:lol: Doh, I was thinking yours was the Orange with black wheels on the cars on page 1.

This is my new scheme for 2015, maybe if the grid gets big enough we could be team mates and this would be the Team colour :cheers:
Let's hope...

Night:gtpflag:
 
:lol: Doh, I was thinking yours was the Orange with black wheels on the cars on page 1.

This is my new scheme for 2015, maybe if the grid gets big enough we could be team mates and this would be the Team colour :cheers:
Let's hope...

Night:gtpflag:

Nope that was supposed to be a 'neutral' color scheme. I don't really have one, it often depends on the car I choose. I may change for the Focus, I like it too and it has a terrific sound! I'll try a green paint with black rims, another combo I like a lot! 👍
 
Target looks good, I was in the 1:18s off the bat whilst taking a few of the cars out for a spin on default settings on RH, so should be no problem meeting it. Now I just need to practice to gain some consistency, as I don't know that circuit well at all!

Looking forward to racing with you again @hobbsy , it's been a while.

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Oh, forgot to ask this one earlier: when you say all aero parts, @Tijee , does that include flat floors? Two of the cars can't be fitted with them, alas -- which is too bad, since more downforce is better for running with Racing tyres, IMO.
 
Oh, forgot to ask this one earlier: when you say all aero parts, @Tijee , does that include flat floors? Two of the cars can't be fitted with them, alas -- which is too bad, since more downforce is better for running with Racing tyres, IMO.

Yes that includes flat floor, if it's available for the car. If not... Well, too bad ;)

Remember that you are free to use RH / RM / RS.
 
Looking forward to racing with you again @hobbsy , it's been a while...

Likewise, and yes it has been quite a dry spell for me.;)

See you on track soon :cheers:

For anyone that is around tonight, I will probably be running some testing laps for a an hour or so. I'll set up a room from the club lobby, so all you need to do is look out for the club room in the online area, or go to the club lobby itself.

I would expect to be on around 9pm (BST).

Laters
 
For anyone that is around tonight, I will probably be running some testing laps for a an hour or so. I'll set up a room from the club lobby, so all you need to do is look out for the club room in the online area, or go to the club lobby itself.

I would expect to be on around 9pm (BST).

Not sure I can join but I'll try to if I'm available! :)👍
 
PTCC Official Announcement

The spokeperson of the Parity Racing Club held a press conference earlier today, announcing two major news about this first season of the PTCC:

It appears that the official test drivers recently reported an issue with the BoP, resulting in the PRC committee deciding to apply some changes to the regulations of the series. As might be expected, this provoked an outcry from the teams and manufacturers when they were told the news, and particularly from the two manufacturers most affected by these new regulations, BMW and Toyota. They stated in a press release that these last-minute changes were unacceptable, implying too much additional costs just a few days before the season start, and that the unsuccessful negotiations with the PRC left them no choice but withdraw from the PTCC. Unfortunately the representative of the PRC confirmed the information just a few hours ago: BMW and Toyota will not be part of this PTCC season.

However, he also announced that in the meantime two other manufacturers had signed contracts to enter the championship, confirming the last weeks rumors about new cars. First, Alfa Romeo will be making a comeback with the well-known 147. Second, Peugeot will build an RCZ with the hope of better results than with the old 406. The schedule is not certain for these newcomers, but these two cars may appear this Friday at the pre-season race.

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Alfa Romeo 147 TI 2.0 TWIN SPARK '06

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Peugeot RCZ '10
 
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