Project CARS - Hardware recommendation on PC
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- 2,330
- Michigan
- FuriousDemon
Won't get 60 with rain at the race start with AI, unless you turn off AAGiven my personal experience, I can vouch for the 780 Ti so far, given I've thrown a few games released late last year (AC Unity, Shadow of Mordor, Far Cry 4, Dragon Age Inquisition), all with Ultra settings and all have run at 1080p/60fps minimum, with Shadow of Mordor being the only one dropping bellow 60fps at some point in its benchmark (54fps to be exact)...
That being said, I'm pretty confident I'll be able to run pCARS at Ultra in 1080p/60fps with my current build.:tup:
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- Upstate SC, USA
- GTP_crowhop
Then the problem is not with the GPU. The problem is with the game. If the game is overload for mid-range GPU's which aren't all that old, then I dread to see what pCARS 2 might be like. Basically what you're saying is the only way to run it at Ultra is with a GTX 980 or greater.
- 2,330
- Michigan
- FuriousDemon
Well, I didn't say there is a problem with the GPU. 780ti is only beaten by 980 and Titan X, so I wouldn't call it mid-range. Anyway, ultra settings give you very little graphical improvement for a lot of GPU "cost", so running most things on high is preferable. The setting is there if you really want it, but by no means it's required. The problem with race starts is that you have all cars close to you (and the closer they are the more cars at 60k polygons you have) in addition to all the track buildings, stands, crowd and lights. So this is your absolute worst case scenario. If you have a 5 lap race your total time for that scenario is maybe 2%. The rest of the time 780ti can manage close to 60 or mostly above that. What I'm trying to say is that the game is very flexible graphically, but the looks won't get affected that much when you turn settings down. High vs ultra is almost indistinguishable in real use cases (actual racing instead of sitting at stop looking around). Medium and low take a bit of a graphical hit, but still look good and can run on low-end systems.
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dear all, after reading and educating myself, all the topics/ threads here, i would like to ask those who know how to build computers, where should i purchase mine? should i build it by parts? myself? (beginner PC know-how myself) or other online store? (i have looked at alienware and origin and some others but find them so expensive)
budget is: 2000-2500$ USD
any help would be appreciated. looking for a setup for various racing sim games released already and to be released. thank u all!
budget is: 2000-2500$ USD
any help would be appreciated. looking for a setup for various racing sim games released already and to be released. thank u all!
- 2,621
- Upstate SC, USA
- GTP_crowhop
Build it!! You will save a ton of money by doing it yourself.
First thing, sign up for Newegg Premier. I did the three month $19.99 option. It saved me probably $50 in shipping charges.
Then buy THIS Case and go from there. (on sale today, best price it has been that I have seen, it is an awesome case, it is the case I used as the foundation of mine)
Now is the time to build, my friend. If you have an ounce of skill in putting things together (not unlike assembling a desk from IKEA) you can do it.
Almost every day there is a component on sale you will need. At the least, every week.
Of course, if this doesn't work for you, just buy mine. Your budget is almost exactly like mine. My parts list is in a previous post just up from here. It is (mostly) freshly completed. The only thing I lack is the video card, which I am waiting to purchase until the absolute last minute. It is beautiful. Cannot wait to get that video card to be able to actually use it for gaming and not just home computing.
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- 1,778
- Florida, USA
My advice is more general, I’ve been building my own computers for the last thirty years, I would build or buy a system that allows for future growth, a problem with some of the cheaper off the shelf systems would be no or limited expandability to improving the systems performance, So start with the right system board and build up from there, if your building a gaming system or 3D/Cad work you can never overbuild, but can easily under build. Make sure the board has plenty of slots to add additional cards, make sure the board has the capacity to add up the 32gb or whatever maximum at the time. Consider cooling, make sure the case is vented properly.
Even if at the moment your not planning to build a powerful system, build a system that you can grow into a your budget allows
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
For that kind of budget you should be able to build a kickass gaming pc. In my case, I was toying with the idea of building a pc myself but I made some enquiries to friends that have had pc's built and found a local shop that would put it all together for me for not much more than the cost of the parts. I went in over a few weeks, asked a lot of questions and finally pulled the trigger last fall and I've been happy with it ever since. I'd suggest looking into finding a local guy to build it for you and see what that looks like in terms of price. For someone who knows what they are doing and has a bench to work with it shouldn't be more than a couple of hours work so paying $100-200 for someone to build it is not unreasonable.
For me the key requirements were quality parts, a large enough case to be able to easily expand, the ability to simply plug in a second videocard if I wanted to and the same with more ram. Extra cooling on the CPU is cheap and worthwhile. A K series chip for overclocking is usually only a few dollars and good insurance. Extra power in the power supply is also a good investment and a gold series PS is a little more efficient. At your price range an SSD drive will speed up load times and is a worthwhile luxury. A minimum of a GTX970 would be a must for your price range IMO.
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thank you all for your valuable and great input!!! was looking at setting up below, what do you think, what am I missing or what do you think I should get/ change and etc?
1) CASE - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139029
2) POWER - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034
3) MAINBOARD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132505
4) MEMORY - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233708
5) CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117403
6) COOLER - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103189
7) ODD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247
8) OS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416776
9) CR-ALL IN ONE - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ2MV8961
10) VGA - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121908
11) SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K2KJ0775
12) HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178448
i know I will need wires? or does it all come with wires and cables i need to setup and install everything?
thanks again for your wonderful help!
1) CASE - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139029
2) POWER - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139034
3) MAINBOARD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132505
4) MEMORY - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233708
5) CPU - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819117403
6) COOLER - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103189
7) ODD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135247
8) OS - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832416776
9) CR-ALL IN ONE - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA0AJ2MV8961
10) VGA - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121908
11) SSD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA12K2KJ0775
12) HDD - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178448
i know I will need wires? or does it all come with wires and cables i need to setup and install everything?
thanks again for your wonderful help!
- 2,621
- Upstate SC, USA
- GTP_crowhop
Whoa! Going with the 5930k!!
That's a complete step up from mine. I am an Asus fan (deal with them a lot in my work), so I appreciate the Asus and Corsair-centric build.
You could be using this system for 7+ years, no problems there. I do think it is overkill, but I appreciate the quality. Just know that unless you are really tech savvy you'll not tap into the potential of the MBO or CPU for another couple of years and by that time, your GPU will be a bit dated. The GPU is the bottleneck with this build, if that is even possible to say. If you're going this route, I'd upgrade the GPU to the next level as well. The Poseidon GTX980 is that next level with Asus. Or the Titan, if you can find it. The Poseidon has water-cooling ports to really make your build show out, so that could be a thought. But I'm sure there are even higher level cards you could pick.
That RAM is killer. The price of DDR4 is insane compared to DDR3. That is a huge expense in going with that MBO.
Seems like a triple 4k tv setup is what you're going for here. With these components, anything less would be just a waste of money.
As for connections, the MOB and PSU come with all the connectors you'll need as far as that goes. The cooling aspect is above my knowledge level to speak into. I'm looking forward to following this one to see how it plays out.
TL/DR: This is way, way over the top. You could build two excellent GTX 970 rigs for this money.
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- 172
- Wales
- Schumi-01
Bit of advice please, i wouldn't know where to start to build a PC, i currently have a PS4, all i really want is a plug and play piece of kit, i know some of you will say, get one built, but i have been looking at the Alienware Alpha I quite like it as it is quite small, i really couldn't have a big box in my room, all i really want it for is just to play racing sims on it, if i did go down this route would it run PC and most sims Ok ?
thanks
thanks
- 1,001
- Germany
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
If youre in the UK, you might want to look at these: http://www.alternate.co.uk/html/sea...t=true&ignoreForCache=userInput&userInput=pcg
All very silent, only retail, high end components, selected and configured by the editors of the german magazine PC Games Hardware.
All very silent, only retail, high end components, selected and configured by the editors of the german magazine PC Games Hardware.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
NASA called. They want their computer back:tup:👍👍
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- Wheaton/IL/USA
- Flooderqb19
hey guys,
i'm looking at building a new desktop (have only had laptops since the last desktop i built died in 2008) and newegg has a great pi day sale today. Will a GTX 960 gpu allow me to run pCARS on ultra (whenever the game releases)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14487091-S0E
i'm looking at building a new desktop (have only had laptops since the last desktop i built died in 2008) and newegg has a great pi day sale today. Will a GTX 960 gpu allow me to run pCARS on ultra (whenever the game releases)?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14487091-S0E
- 1,001
- Germany
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
No, at least not @60 fps
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- Wheaton/IL/USA
- Flooderqb19
ok, how about this one?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14121899-S0D
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5-Index-_-DesktopGraphicsCards-_-14121899-S0D
- 1,001
- Germany
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
Together with a meaty CPU that would work.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
From what I gather, the 970 is kind of the go to card to begin to look at using a large number of settings on ultra and maintaining 60fps most of the time. You have to remember too, that the biggest framerate hits are at the start, in the rain, or in the dry with lots of smoke etc. So even with a 960, if you can accept a temporary frame rate drop at the beginning of those races, framerates will rise as the field spreads out. It all depends on your personal preferences. Having said that, the extra $130ish dollars spent on the 970 is by far the biggest bang for the buck you'll find, assuming the rest of your system is up to snuff.
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- West Mids, UK
- ElBasque
Any news on how well "legacy" cards will cope?
I'm rocking an old ASUS GTX670 at the moment with an overclocked 4770k @ 4.5ghz and 16gb RAM. I've found a few showcasing videos using them, but the builds were ancient from early 2013 or so.
Planning to buy it for my PS4 anyway (initially) so its no big deal - but in was just curious considering the higher field numbers on PC.
I'm rocking an old ASUS GTX670 at the moment with an overclocked 4770k @ 4.5ghz and 16gb RAM. I've found a few showcasing videos using them, but the builds were ancient from early 2013 or so.
Planning to buy it for my PS4 anyway (initially) so its no big deal - but in was just curious considering the higher field numbers on PC.
- 28,470
- Windsor, Ontario, Canada
- Johnnypenso
- 151
- West Mids, UK
- ElBasque
I know I didn't, I just was tinkering with my system. It was the first computer I'd built and I was just wondering what they meant by "OC" on every forum. I got the tweaking bug.
The 4770 seemed to be a no-brainer upgrade this side of 5ghz so i decided to play with that over the GPU clocks. It also left me open to a scenario like now where I can upgrade the weak link without running into another bottleneck straightaway. I hope.
- 2,286
- Marinha Grande
- Yeratel84
I too have tinkered with my CPU (i5-4690k), but only using auto-tuning option on my MOBO... I have it running @4.3GHz from default 3.5 with no issues at all so might just leave it like that.
As for my GPU, I'll wait until pCARS to see if I need to add to the factory OC (mine's a Matrix Platinum 780Ti)
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- 114
- Melbourne
Swap out the i7 processer for an i5. i5 is more than enough for gaming, i7's are more for video processing and CAD work.
http://m.newegg.com/Product/index?itemnumber=19-116-899
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will the i5 be compatible with the mainboard i picked? thx ocat1979! or will i have to pick nother mainboArd?
- 1,116
- Gassolini
^ You would need another mainboard with socket 1150. You could get away with halving your mainboard and CPU budget and never notice the difference. A socket 1150 system also runs cooler and quieter while saving more than $500 even with an i7. Like ocat1979 says, you could also get away with an i5 for gaming right now - however, unless the budget is strained, or if you do indeed want to run other software that could be taxing, I'd go with the i7 just to secure the future a bit. It looks like you have a fairly generous budget though.
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What would your opinion be on the following specs:
16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
Intel Core i7 4770K CPU at 3.5GHz
ASUS NVIDIA GTX 980 4GB GDDR5
Good enough for ultra?
16 GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 1600Mhz RAM
Intel Core i7 4770K CPU at 3.5GHz
ASUS NVIDIA GTX 980 4GB GDDR5
Good enough for ultra?
- 1,001
- Germany
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
- bLoWfIsHrUlEz
Sure
