Project Motor Racing (formerly GTR Revival/GTRevival) from Ian Bell & original GTR2/SimBin crew

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Ooooohhh! A logo!

I guess that makes every previous blunder by Ian Bell irrelevant, right? 😂🤪🙄
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The logo IS a blunder 😆. It's a stock image from Photoshop. I know it's early days and it's probably quite a common thing but still.
 
So he's going to create a new gaming studio, have no publisher backing, and create a AAA game over two years? Obvious question is surely who is paying for it...
 
Samus
So he's going to create a new gaming studio, have no publisher backing, and create a AAA game over two years? Obvious question is surely who is paying for it...
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and what he is consuming too much or way too less 💊 🚬
 
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danardif1
Ian is probably quite wealthy after the Codies/EA purchases... There's probably some element of self-funding before taking the game to a publisher?
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He may have some money but that's a bit different to actually investing in a triple A title. Never mind actually publishing it.
 
GTR3 has been in development hell.

Seriously I got no hope for this one unfortunately.
 
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Probably planning to go back to crowdfunding again, though that isn't anywhere near the free money fountain it used to be back in the PCARS1 era thanks to tightened regulations and people just being more wary abut throwing money at a promise and a screenshot.
 
SestoScudo
GTR3 has been in development hell.

Seriously I got no hope for this one unfortunately.
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GTR3 is dead and not happening. The studio making it (Simbin UK) disbanded and all of its staff went to PlayBoss Interactive. There is nobody left developing it.
05XR8
That’s why I asked this at the start
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He's going to need a lot of it. Running a large studio in 2022 is not going to be cheap, certainly not as cheap as when they started WMD in 2015.
 
cjsrt4
I don't know the full story behind PC3, but is it really Ian's fault for the game being so bad?
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People don't blame Ian for making PC3; they blame him for claiming PC3 would be a superior successor to PC2, knowing very well that it was not.

PC3 is actually a decent racing game, but it's really a less serious/less deep spin-off. E.g. had it been called 'Project CARS Horizon' or something like that and had Ian & co marketed it like that, it would have been received quite differently.

There's also some other history like the PC4 announcement, MadBox, his crypto-game shenenigans, etc., so people are like "Yeah sure, Ian". :lol:
 
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NLxAROSA
People don't blame Ian for making PC3; they blame him for claiming PC3 would be a superior successor to PC2, knowing very well that it was not.

PC3 is actually a decent racing game, but it's really a less serious/less deep spin-off. E.g. had it been called 'Project CARS Horizon' or something like that and had Ian & co marketed it like that, it would have been received quite differently.

There's also some other history like the PC4 announcement, MadBox, his crypto-game shenenigans, etc., so people are like "Yeah sure, Ian". :lol:
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People rightly blame Ian Bell for basically taking the best all round console racing game and leaving it unfinished and crippled, then wasting four years on a laundry list of ventures that anyone with half a brain knew were a waste of time and money. Time and money that, if put into a PC2 successor that built on its strengths and fixed the odd thing would have given GT7 a serious challenge.

I wonder what sort of financial report the investors in the Madbox or the Fast and Furious game are giving his new endeavor?
 
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I wonder what sort of financial report the investors in the Madbox or the Fast and Furious game are giving his new endeavor?
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Found it:
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I wonder what sort of financial report the investors in the Madbox or the Fast and Furious game are giving his new endeavor?
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"Past performance is not an indicator or guarantee of future results". The nebulous statement given to all investors which basically means "if this flops, it's your own damn fault for buying into it".

Also, investors tend to look at diversity more closely than success. What we saw as a crappy movie tie-in game and vaporware console, the moneylenders may see as an addition to a very successful movie franchise and garnered experience in the notoriously hard to enter console hardware market. It's all in how you spin the details, really.
 
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People rightly blame Ian Bell for basically taking the best all round console racing game and leaving it unfinished and crippled, then wasting four years on a laundry list of ventures that anyone with half a brain knew were a waste of time and money. Time and money that, if put into a PC2 successor that built on its strengths and fixed the odd thing would have given GT7 a serious challenge.

I wonder what sort of financial report the investors in the Madbox or the Fast and Furious game are giving his new endeavor?
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He could have made a great PC4 on current gen, theres not much that needs doing to PC2 to make it a truly great game.
 
Got suckered into pre-ordering Project CARS for PS4, was bitterly disappointed when what I actually got was Project BUGS, and that pretty much singlehandedly killed sim racing for me at the time.

Fool me once...
 
All I want is a GTR2 game where we get some cool racing machines from different eras.

If GTR2 is a game where it focuses just on GT1 Im more than happy. Then again I prefer variety.

90s era and the 2000s along with the FIA GT1 championship would be so cool to replicate with todays technology.
 
NekoPufferPPP
Um, this is huge, right?
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Collins was onboard with SMS in the Project CARS series in pretty much the same capacity. Also did the voice for the driving assistant for that series. They also did a collab with Nicolas Hamilton back then.

Just keep in mind that being really good at marketing, sales and exposure doesn't necessarily say anything about the quality of a product/service.
 
I'll say this: despite all previous and subsequent failings, I have to thank Ian Bell and SMS for making me interested in racing games again with PCars2. A stellar game that I still play, many years after release.

I didn't buy PCars3, as I didn't buy GT7, but I'm not going to say Kaz is unable to do a game I might enjoy in the future. And won't say the same thing about Ian.

I just think we should keep our minds open and the bar set to "high". If GT8 draws the same general awe that GT3 (heck, even GT5) did, I'll buy. If whatever game this new team with Ian Bell releases proves to be again a gem as PCars2 is, I'll buy. If not, they'll get the same treatment (from me) as GT7 and PCars3 did.
 
NLxAROSA
Collins was onboard with SMS in the Project CARS series in pretty much the same capacity. Also did the voice for the driving assistant for that series. They also did a collab with Nicolas Hamilton back then.

Just keep in mind that being really good at marketing, sales and exposure doesn't necessarily say anything about the quality of a product/service.
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I remember Codemasters saying Kris Meeke and Petter Solberg consulted with them on the handling of Dirt 4. Needn't have bothered.
 

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