Prologue needs a something New

[DaddyVDUB]

PD won't turn GT5P into GT5 over time like that. They want money!!! If they did that they would only have less than 1/2 of the money they would get.

There you go, why should they update GT5P until it turns into GT5? Thats not the way buisness works.

Its the old wait for it ... wait for it...ok now there about ready to buy a game ,release the game.

 

[Darkpitiless]

I can't play it anymore. The game is lacking and im playing the same cars same tracks with a lot of lack of features.

BTW i'v been playing the demo simultaneously since it's first japanese release then i sold it and i bought the US version when it came out last Feb08. like i'v been playing a demo for more than a year. PD isn't showing any info for further updates/ GT5 info and release date so im shutting my mouth up and im gonna give G25 some rest until something magicly happens.

 

[Lain]

What Prologue needs the most is a new track. If they just gave us one new track as a final update, that would be great.

 

[Peter]

I can't play it anymore. The game is lacking and im playing the same cars same tracks with a lot of lack of features.

BTW i'v been playing the demo simultaneously since it's first japanese release then i sold it and i bought the US version when it came out last Feb08. like i'v been playing a demo for more than a year. PD isn't showing any info for further updates/ GT5 info and release date so im shutting my mouth up and im gonna give G25 some rest until something magicly happens.

Play SOCOM and COD in the mean time. Guns is all i need to make me happy.(in a game of course)

 

[Peter]

[/QUOTE]Play SOCOM and COD in the mean time. Guns is all i need to make me happy(in a game of course)[/QUOTE]

 

[Peter]

Oops i screwed up my posting. Sorry bout the repost. It was an accident.

 

[Vaxen]

Please use the edit function to fix your posts (button located in the lower right hand of your post), rather than double or triple posting.

 

[Peter]

Ok vax thanks for reminding me.

 

[Lernatix]

There's a bit of talk around the forum about running
arcade tracks in reverse for something different.
Couldn't PD run some online tracks in reverse for variety?

I would love another (any) track though.

 

[Paulie]

GT5 doesn't necessarily need something new, but we do at LEAST need some new info on the full game, you know, car list, track list, feature list....ANYTHING!

 

[BMfan]

GT5 doesn't necessarily need something new, but we do at LEAST need some new info on the full game, you know, car list, track list, feature list....ANYTHING!

I have to agree,atleast some sort of news would be great and an official date.

 

[vipersan]

We need new tracks. That is a must. Not just one.

I was also hoping with the introduction of an online options for Gran Turismo that we would get REGULAR updates. I expected that would include physics and other game modes to improve and at least one new car and one new track every month or so. That IMHO could be considered as a regular update. I don't like PD's idea of a regular update, that only the online events change regularly. OK, we got some physics updates and three new cars. But that is obviously not enough.

As far as the GT5 info goes - we don't need anything else to know now but the release date. Or at least an accurate estimate. We got promised a lot of cars and a lot of tracks, so that I think is OK. We just need a deadline for release. For example, till end of 2009 or something similar. That would be very appreciated.

 

[TiZzla]

Im happy with my gt5 prologue

Im not bored of it at all.

I havent even driven all of the cars, i havent REALLY driven many of them at all.

This game is amazing, i have been playing this game almost non-stop since i got my ps3 (after i got over gta4) and if i havent even fully explored this tiny preview of GT5, i cant even imagine how brilliant the final product will be

 

[Obli]

Has anyone forgotten this?

http://blog.us.playstation.com/2008...ludes-new-cars/comment-page-2/#comment-114180

"There WILL be more gameplay updates" (to Prologue)... sounds almost certain to me.

I do agree that GT5 needs to be saved for the main course, but I think adding something like private rooms, qualifying, tyre wear or something small like one of those wouldn't harm sales of GT5. I'm not asking for it all. A taster feature would help rejuvinate Prologue.

 

[Ardius]

We need new tracks. That is a must. Not just one.

I was also hoping with the introduction of an online options for Gran Turismo that we would get REGULAR updates. I expected that would include physics and other game modes to improve and at least one new car and one new track every month or so. That IMHO could be considered as a regular update. I don't like PD's idea of a regular update, that only the online events change regularly. OK, we got some physics updates and three new cars. But that is obviously not enough.

You were hoping too much for something like Prologue....I realise Polyphony/Kaz mentioned a couple of times that they "might" regularly update the game and it would "possibly" become the full GT5 but no where did they confirm it would. They did say they would do regular updates, but didn't specify to what, as it turns out it was just online events and the odd GT-TV programme.
Quite a few people seem to have expected way too much from Prologue and are losing faith in Polyphony for no good reason other than their own disappointment - which wasn't PD's fault. Perhaps next time PD do another "Prologue" game, they should call it:
"Gran Turismo 6: Prologue - NOT THE FINISHED GT6".

I sometimes wonder how many of us expected the game to be an improved GT4 Prologue?

 

[machscnel]

The way I see it, Gran Turismo is in a very unique position. Their game, although a demo is the closest thing to a racing sim on a console and there for the best(Forza is outdated, Ferrari Challenge is very good but unpolished and don't even mention GRID or PGR). On top of that, it is the really the only recently made car game out.

Now I'd bet money that Forza 3 will come out before GT5. But it is not all bad. Polyphony has Prologue out, but the problem is people are losing interest. They need to use Prologue to
1. Take some Forza fans(and hopefully move some PS3's)
2.Get people hooked on Gran Turismo so much that they forget about Forza.

Put it this way, if GT5P stays much the same through out 2009, when Forza comes out I'll be very tempted to buy it, because it's a full game and in all honesty, I believe everyting bar Graphics, Forza will be on par with GT5, so why wait for a similar game?

 

[G.T.Ace]

GT5 doesn't necessarily need something new, but we do at LEAST need some new info on the full game, you know, car list, track list, feature list....ANYTHING!

Correct.
I mean, even that stupid La Sarthe video which reveales NOTHING hyped me a bit. I dont give a damn anymore about updates (even if it would be nice), i dont give a damn about an online lobby in Prologue anymore and so on.

Just show us something, tell us about new features, give us confirmation that for example a photomode will be back, confirm us some tracks, just some stupid little infos.

 

[Ardius]

On top of that, it is the really the only recently made car game out.

Wait, so Ferrari Challenge, which was released several months after GT5 is not considered a "recent car game"? And even though GRiD is not a sim, its a "car game" and that came out after GT5 as well.

Now I'd bet money that Forza 3 will come out before GT5. But it is not all bad. Polyphony has Prologue out, but the problem is people are losing interest. They need to use Prologue to
1. Take some Forza fans(and hopefully move some PS3's)
2.Get people hooked on Gran Turismo so much that they forget about Forza.

Put it this way, if GT5P stays much the same through out 2009, when Forza comes out I'll be very tempted to buy it, because it's a full game and in all honesty, I believe everyting bar Graphics, Forza will be on par with GT5, so why wait for a similar game?

The Forza and GT releases have always overlapped each other, it won't change. People with any sense will buy (or at least try) both games, remember, competition isn't a bad thing - monopolies are.
There are many reasons why you would choose Forza over GT, both have their strengths and weaknesses, as do all driving games ever made, they all are never perfect and they all have different strengths to them. Its why its a relatively easy market to break into if you manage to get a few key compenents right in your game.

In other words, the reasons for buying either game are slightly different and because they don't normally release close to each other, they don't have to worry too much about what the other side is doing. Though I will say that GT is ever so slightly winning the battle overall, though it lacks certain features, its overall experience is better, but even so, I wouldn't expect fans of either series to jump to the rival series regardless how good GT5 is.
Not that I'm saying GT5 should be rushed and Polyphony should ignore the competition completely, just that its not true that Forza is immediately inferior to GT or that the fans need "winning" over.

 

[machscnel]

Wait, so Ferrari Challenge, which was released several months after GT5 is not considered a "recent car game"? And even though GRiD is not a sim, its a "car game" and that came out after GT5 as well.



The Forza and GT releases have always overlapped each other, it won't change. People with any sense will buy (or at least try) both games, remember, competition isn't a bad thing - monopolies are.
There are many reasons why you would choose Forza over GT, both have their strengths and weaknesses, as do all driving games ever made, they all are never perfect and they all have different strengths to them. Its why its a relatively easy market to break into if you manage to get a few key compenents right in your game.

In other words, the reasons for buying either game are slightly different and because they don't normally release close to each other, they don't have to worry too much about what the other side is doing. Though I will say that GT is ever so slightly winning the battle overall, though it lacks certain features, its overall experience is better, but even so, I wouldn't expect fans of either series to jump to the rival series regardless how good GT5 is.
Not that I'm saying GT5 should be rushed and Polyphony should ignore the competition completely, just that its not true that Forza is immediately inferior to GT or that the fans need "winning" over.

I was speaking from a marketing point of view, not my own. Sony just doesn't seem to advertise/market their products well, that was my point. For example, Killzone 2, maybe the biggest release for the PS3 yet is about to come put, yet here in Australia, unless you went looking on the net or asked a saleperson, you would have no idea it even existed. Now compare that with when Halo released, it was a totally different story.

My post was basically me thinking out loud. Sonys' way of doing things often confuses me.

And by the way, I love Ferrari Challenge, I play it more than Prologue(I prefer Race cars), but it is more of a hidden gem, no one seems to play it, which is unfortunate. Hopefully Eutechnyxs' new game(Supercar Challenge) will be more popular.

 

[TunerFocus]

No!!! It's not a "demo", demos are free & offer less than 3 cars, 2 tracks, & minimal options, if any. The best way to describe Prologue is in this analogy: a demo is like a free sample of ice cream, & Prologue is like an appitizer. Sure the free sample of ice cream tasted good, but that's all you get & like a demo its fun for a little bit, but if you want more, you're gonna have to pay. Prologue is most like an appitizer, they're not free, but for good reason, there is so much more to prologue than any demo has to offer, shoot...Prologue has more cars than some of the other PS3 racing games out now. An appitizer is supposed to tide you over till the main course comes out. Anyone, want to argue this theory, feel free to challenge me.

 

[arvin charles]

Prologue is most like an appitizer, they're not free, but for good reason, there is so much more to prologue than any demo has to offer, shoot...Prologue has more cars than some of the other PS3 racing games out now. An appitizer is supposed to tide you over till the main course comes out.

Sure, it was more than a free ice cream, but now the patrons are starving and are banging on the tables with their spoons and forks for more food. It's not good for a restaurant to make their clients wait a long time for the main course.

At least give some more bread (news or info) while we're waiting...

 

[craste]

Sure, it was more than a free ice cream, but now the patrons are starving and are banging on the tables with their spoons and forks for more food. It's not good for a restaurant to make their clients wait a long time for the main course.

At least give some more bread (news or info) while we're waiting...

Well put.

God I'm starving now I've read that.

Waiter! Oh yes hi i'd like to order Pukka pie and chips twice please.

 

[Jack]

Sure, it was more than a free ice cream, but now the patrons are starving and are banging on the tables with their spoons and forks for more food. It's not good for a restaurant to make their clients wait a long time for the main course.

At least give some more bread (news or info) while we're waiting...

But in going to the restaurant most of us know to expect a long wait for the food and very little service from the waiter

 

[white2abbit]

I thought I had seen a digital (GT5P) version of the Nurburgring BRIEEEEFLY in one of the videos on Gran Turismo TV (I forget which one)...

If they only added the Ring, I'd have HOURS and HOURS of fun driving each of the current cars on it...

 

[arvin charles]

But in going to the restaurant most of us know to expect a long wait for the food and very little service from the waiter

Sounds like someone's not getting a good tip! Haha! I'm guessing a majority of the general public does not go to restaurants to practice their fasting methods for several hours.

Anyway, we haven't even had a really nice smelling dish pass by to drool over!!! (I'm referring to screen shots and other tidbits). Nothing's coming out of PD's kitchen!!

PS-I apologize to Craste and anyone else I've made hungry by making food/restau analogies. Though keep in mind, I didn't start the analogy.

 

[Watevaman]

I agree that Prologue needs at least a track or two more, but I don't want too much stuff. I just play MotoGP 08, Ferrari Challenge, or F1CE now that GT5P has lost its fun to me. A track or so would probably be enough for me to at least go back and race a few times.

 

[DTM]

I feel GT5P has done more than enough already, far surpassed its predecessor, GT4 Prologue by miles.
I would rather they just get GT5 finished now rather than getting stuck in an endless loop of updates and never being able to finish the game properly because theyre attention is stuck on keeping Prologue updated.
If I asked 5 years ago if people would have rather seen Valve make Half Life 3 than bring out only 2-3 "episodes" for HL2, I can imagine the answer would be pretty easy.
Same applies here.

If they keep adding stuff to GT5P, whats left for GT5 to do to impress us? If they gave us damage and weather, etc, whats left for GT5 to do? It would become rather redundant other than to provide some new cars and tracks. Let them get on with GT5 please, Prologue is fine as it is now and has done its job of giving us a "taste" of what to expect.

I don't think Prologue was even meant to last this long to be honest, I think even Polyphony have been surprised by how long this game has remained popular.

I’m with you for a big part of what you saying , but:

The stuff they put in an up-date for Prologue is stuff that they all ready have finished for the full version. So they don’t spend too much time on Prologue without working on the full version. IMO.

I think there will be plenty of stuff left for the full version to surprise us.

What we really need is private rooms for our events. Because a drifter ruined mine race. Fortunately for me it was my opponent that suffered the most from the drifter and cost him the race. I heard they all ready have private rooms in Japan. But I don’t know if that’s true.

And let them add one decent track (I know it won’t be The Ring, I’m willing to wait for that one till the full version)

 

[Japspecvr6]

Prologue just needs a two more big tracks and some old cars 95 - and down. Im pretty sure they are busting ass to release something this holiday because it was konami's turn with metal gear last year, So basically I know Sony is putting the pressure on them. They just need to make up there mind and fix all bugs with alitte taste.

 

[white2abbit]

I don't get why they didn't include some of the cars from the HD Concept demo...

i.e. the R32 GT-R and the Celica Rally car...(I'm more concerned about the Skyline)...

Hoping they'll include the classic Nissans in the final, such as:

- S13 hatch/coupe with popups/silvia front ends, with CA's and SR's
- S14 JDM version and N/A KA version
- S15
- R32 and R33 all models
- all models of R34

It would be awesome if you could do engine swapping, such as putting an RB26DETT into an S13/S14, or a CA in an S14, etc.

 

[Horde_R35]

To me the best thing would be a SPEC4, till the full version comes out! With some new toys to race and possibly a new track... if they were nice guys they would manage that for all of us, but...