Prologue needs a something New

[SkylineObsession]

A lot of work still needs to be done to GT5 to make me happy.

One thing is that they need to get rid of the unrealistic 'hopping' of the cars over sand traps/grass as its seriously annoying when you make a mistake in the heat of battle on the final few laps and slide off the track then have to hobble your way back onto the track midfield (or last place in past GT games) where apon the game stops restricting your accelleration ability and you can go flat tat again.

Honest to god, that annoys me so much its not even funny - its NOT REALISTIC AT ALL POLYPHONY! There are other ways to stop cheaters, and restricting power for a few seconds or making the car hop along the grass aren't the best ones. Just copy Forza for crying out loud!

 

[Obli]

A lot of work still needs to be done to GT5 to make me happy.

One thing is that they need to get rid of the unrealistic 'hopping' of the cars over sand traps/grass as its seriously annoying when you make a mistake in the heat of battle on the final few laps and slide off the track then have to hobble your way back onto the track midfield (or last place in past GT games) where apon the game stops restricting your accelleration ability and you can go flat tat again.

Honest to god, that annoys me so much its not even funny - its NOT REALISTIC AT ALL POLYPHONY! There are other ways to stop cheaters, and restricting power for a few seconds or making the car hop along the grass aren't the best ones. Just copy Forza for crying out loud!

I agree. At least on professional or expert, have this disabled. The strange thing is I heard the Japanese demo doesn't restrict throttle when you're in the sand / on the grass.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

I don't get why they didn't include some of the cars from the HD Concept demo...

i.e. the R32 GT-R and the Celica Rally car...(I'm more concerned about the Skyline)...

Hoping they'll include the classic Nissans in the final, such as:

- S13 hatch/coupe with popups/silvia front ends, with CA's and SR's
- S14 JDM version and N/A KA version
- S15
- R32 and R33 all models
- all models of R34

It would be awesome if you could do engine swapping, such as putting an RB26DETT into an S13/S14, or a CA in an S14, etc.

I'm in the same boat as you. I would love the the silvia's to be added, especially the S13 so i can drive my own car in the game . I just wonder if they did bring in engine/drive-train swaps how that would affect the physics. Those cars with the swaps are out there, would just add a lot more time and re-search if they wanted to get those handling capabilities better or closer to the real thing. 💡

And i want this out A.S.A.P. but as long as it's proper and ready to be released.

 

[white2abbit]

I'm in the same boat as you. I would love the the silvia's to be added, especially the S13 so i can drive my own car in the game . I just wonder if they did bring in engine/drive-train swaps how that would affect the physics. Those cars with the swaps are out there, would just add a lot more time and re-search if they wanted to get those handling capabilities better or closer to the real thing. 💡

And i want this out A.S.A.P. but as long as it's proper and ready to be released.

Ya me too. I used to have a 180sx with an '97 blacktop SR...now I have a '97 240sx with the KA lol

 

[Jay]

How did you have a 180sx and now a 240sx? You move countries?

 

[white2abbit]

Nope, I'm in Canada and we have some JDM cars (over 15 years old)...quite a few actually, and more and more everyday. I had to sell the car for insurance reasons, and it wasn't very practical for driving every day.

A cpl pics:

 

[Ghost_drift]

That is a very Tidy Sil-Eighty conversion on the top picture. In the UK they are all called 200sx's all the way through. s13,s14,15. We dont have 180's or 240's.

 

[white2abbit]

That is a very Tidy Sil-Eighty conversion on the top picture. In the UK they are all called 200sx's all the way through. s13,s14,15. We dont have 180's or 240's.

Lucky. No S15's in North America. Or R34's.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

Ya me too. I used to have a 180sx with an '97 blacktop SR...now I have a '97 240sx with the KA lol

Wow that was a clean 180sx, mine is a 240sx (1992) currently with a 97 s13 black-top sr20det. Mine is white (with black hood/bumper, gold front bumper). I swapped shells last august as my original 1990 240sx frame rails were rusting through. I am actually getting it painted in 2 weeks. Body will be White and the roof a-b pillars are going to be Black.

The 97 is very clean. Thats one of my favorite silvia/240 chassis love the kouki front end, very aggressive. As for practical daily driving, i did the swap about 3-4yrs ago daily driving it all over the place (it's my only car). Mostly stock SR with the usual bolt-ons at 10-11psi. it's a fun car last year on the dyno it did 207whp and 206wtq. Not a lot but enough to have fun and get it sliding around turns. After paint and roll-cage i plan to buy a spare block and build it up. Future plans are gt3071r. I wanted to get the twin-scroll manifold and turbo set-up but thats BIG bucks. The KA in the Kouki can be fun, but i'm a boost/turbo person at heart. Must have been weird in the down-grade in power, but the s14 is supposed to be a bit better balanced chassis.

You guys are lucky in North America you need to MAKE your own silvia, unless you have big bucks to import and legalize the RHD JDM versions. There are a few around though.

This is a very Short Vid of a drift practice back in April before i swapped Chassis/parts/suspension/lsd etc. 👍

-Robert

sorry hope this isn't going too off topic.

 

[white2abbit]

Wow that was a clean 180sx, mine is a 240sx (1992) currently with a 97 s13 black-top sr20det. Mine is white (with black hood/bumper, gold front bumper). I swapped shells last august as my original 1990 240sx frame rails were rusting through. I am actually getting it painted in 2 weeks. Body will be White and the roof a-b pillars are going to be Black.

The 97 is very clean. Thats one of my favorite silvia/240 chassis love the kouki front end, very aggressive. As for practical daily driving, i did the swap about 3-4yrs ago daily driving it all over the place (it's my only car). Mostly stock SR with the usual bolt-ons at 10-11psi. it's a fun car last year on the dyno it did 207whp and 206wtq. Not a lot but enough to have fun and get it sliding around turns. After paint and roll-cage i plan to buy a spare block and build it up. Future plans are gt3071r. I wanted to get the twin-scroll manifold and turbo set-up but thats BIG bucks. The KA in the Kouki can be fun, but i'm a boost/turbo person at heart. Must have been weird in the down-grade in power, but the s14 is supposed to be a bit better balanced chassis.

You guys are lucky in North America you need to MAKE your own silvia, unless you have big bucks to import and legalize the RHD JDM versions. There are a few around though.

This is a very Short Vid of a drift practice back in April before i swapped Chassis/parts/suspension/lsd etc. 👍

-Robert

sorry hope this isn't going too off topic.

It's going off topic in a good way

Ya, the downgrade in power sucked...for now I'm going to do some light mods (short ram intake, maybe cams and a few other things)...then in a few years I'll SR it. It only has 120,000 km so I may as well give the KA a run for its money.

Nice car!

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

It's going off topic in a good way

Ya, the downgrade in power sucked...for now I'm going to do some light mods (short ram intake, maybe cams and a few other things)...then in a few years I'll SR it. It only has 120,000 km so I may as well give the KA a run for its money.

Nice car!

Thanks, it's crappy quality, but that car was pretty beat up. Hard to tell, but the paint was fading, scrathc's all over. When i bought it i did the motor first, suspension and little things. Then got the Tomei LSD. I wanted to make it "functional" before it looked good. then when i found out about the rust, i didn't want to put money into a car that had cancer/rust. So i swapped shells. My new one doens't "look" much better, but the frame and under-body was striaght and clean. Once it's painted in a few weeks it will finally look as good as it drives. 👍

I really wanted a 97 when i first started looking for 240's but finding a clean Manual one here was impossible, and way too expensive. Hold onto that Gem and treat her well. The KA will take care of you, it's a stout engine. But an SR will bring her back to what she "should" have been. I really hate the USA as far as automobiles go, we always get the watered down versions of cars

You need to get the Lip for that kouki front bumper to finish it off!

-Robert 👍

 

[white2abbit]

Thanks, it's crappy quality, but that car was pretty beat up. Hard to tell, but the paint was fading, scrathc's all over. When i bought it i did the motor first, suspension and little things. Then got the Tomei LSD. I wanted to make it "functional" before it looked good. then when i found out about the rust, i didn't want to put money into a car that had cancer/rust. So i swapped shells. My new one doens't "look" much better, but the frame and under-body was striaght and clean. Once it's painted in a few weeks it will finally look as good as it drives. 👍

I really wanted a 97 when i first started looking for 240's but finding a clean Manual one here was impossible, and way too expensive. Hold onto that Gem and treat her well. The KA will take care of you, it's a stout engine. But an SR will bring her back to what she "should" have been. I really hate the USA as far as automobiles go, we always get the watered down versions of cars

-Robert 👍

Ya I mean really, wtf is up with that?

What's the Tomei LSD do? How much did it cost?

Where are you getting it painted, and how much is it costing? Post pics when it's done

 

[Ghost_drift]

Lucky. No S15's in North America. Or R34's.

Isnt there some dodgy rule that the R34 is actualy banned from a few states. I know they arnt alowed in california or something. I remember seing some guy had converted an integra to look like an R34. was absolutly crazy. I will try and fined it on the internet and post a link. In UK we dont actualy have official S15's, but we have a massive import structure so you see them alot nowdays.

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

Ya I mean really, wtf is up with that?

What's the Tomei LSD do? How much did it cost?

Where are you getting it painted, and how much is it costing? Post pics when it's done

The tomei T-trax lsd is a 2-way clutch type differential. When applying a lot of load to the drive-train, it locks both rear-wheels EVENLY. so both wheels spin and PUSH the car at the same time. Ideal for drifting, it helps get the car side-ways and makes the rear-end predictable and easier to control. My brother is a mechanic and one of his co-workers builds/paints Race-cars/muscle cars. We will have to do the prep-work (sanding and little bondo work here/there). so I'm getting a crazy deal at $550.00 USD(exterior only). I will definately send you a PM once it gets done being painted.

-Robert 👍

 

[vr6wantsr20det]

Isnt there some dodgy rule that the R34 is actualy banned from a few states. I know they arnt alowed in california or something. I remember seing some guy had converted an integra to look like an R34. was absolutly crazy. I will try and fined it on the internet and post a link. In UK we dont actualy have official S15's, but we have a massive import structure so you see them alot nowdays.

In the USA there are strict "Department of Transportation" (DOT) and emissions laws (not in all states). It costs a lot of money to Legally register an R34. At one point some people were registering them as 240sx

 

[white2abbit]

The tomei T-trax lsd is a 2-way clutch type differential. When applying a lot of load to the drive-train, it locks both rear-wheels EVENLY. so both wheels spin and PUSH the car at the same time. Ideal for drifting, it helps get the car side-ways and makes the rear-end predictable and easier to control. My brother is a mechanic and one of his co-workers builds/paints Race-cars/muscle cars. We will have to do the prep-work (sanding and little bondo work here/there). so I'm getting a crazy deal at $550.00 USD(exterior only). I will definately send you a PM once it gets done being painted.

-Robert 👍

Cool, please do!

I'm a PURE noob when it comes to mechanics...although I'm a pretty good driver (how does one say that anyways without coming off as bragging or a VTECH-yo 16 year old?)...anyways, thnx for the info., might look into that when my car progresses (or when I pickup another track beast).

 

[mk2escort]

Theres a load of Silvias/SXs over here. Never sold over here so most are imports and modified. Everything really, S13s with S15 fronts and RB25s,even seen an S15 with an S13 Front.

As for GT5P, I've not bought it cos I don't have a PS2,but I played it once. I can see how it would bore quickly. But I can't see whats wrong with PD just getting GT5 out! the games fine all it needs is more tracks & cars & of course an arcade mode where you don't have to own the cars.

I think we & PD overestimated GT5 and now they are just trying everything they can to make this game THE ultimate but they haven't really figured anything out.

 

[Ghost_drift]

Theres a load of Silvias/SXs over here. Never sold over here so most are imports and modified. Everything really, S13s with S15 fronts and RB25s,even seen an S15 with an S13 Front.

As for GT5P, I've not bought it cos I don't have a PS2,but I played it once. I can see how it would bore quickly. But I can't see whats wrong with PD just getting GT5 out! the games fine all it needs is more tracks & cars & of course an arcade mode where you don't have to own the cars.

I think we & PD overestimated GT5 and now they are just trying everything they can to make this game THE ultimate but they haven't really figured anything out.

Totaly disagree. If you have only played it once then I dont think you are realy "qualified" to talk down GT5P. For most of us we have played this game for hours and hours. and no other game has given me the hours of enjoyment I have gotten from GT5P. and the game only cost me £10. Emagine what the full game will bring. we all except the fact the prolouge is not a game it is a demo for all intensive perposes. and an amazing one at that. PD has never let us down on any GT titles. And they wont disapoint on GT5. I dont think any one has overestimated GT at all. I dont want anything for prolouge. I would rather PD get on and get GT5 finished rather than desighning concept cars for Shhhh1treon.

 

[Biggles]

Totaly disagree. If you have only played it once then I dont think you are realy "qualified" to talk down GT5P. For most of us we have played this game for hours and hours.

FC is £9.99 new in the UK at the moment. No one wants it. Including me.

You really should take your own advice.

 

[Ghost_drift]

You really should take your own advice.

I did had the game for a mounth. Kept trying to play it but I just couldnt get into it. Total waste of my money.

 

[Biggles]

I did had the game for a mounth. Kept trying to play it but I just couldnt get into it. Total waste of my money.

I'm sorry you weren't able to "get into it". I have played both GT5P & FC for hundreds of hours. They are both good games with their own pros & cons, but on balance, I think FC has given me more enjoyment. I don't think you are doing yourself, or anyone else a service by dissing FC & then telling someone else not to "talk down" GT5P...

 

[Jay]

and it wasn't very practical for driving every day.

Why not? I drove a 1993 180sx (SR20DET redtop) everyday for quite a while and do did my friends.

In the UK they are all called 200sx's all the way through. s13,s14,15. We dont have 180's or 240's.

UK never got S15's, but Australia did

(Also sold as 200sx's)

 

[Ghost_drift]

I'm sorry you weren't able to "get into it". I have played both GT5P & FC for hundreds of hours. They are both good games with their own pros & cons, but on balance, I think FC has given me more enjoyment. I don't think you are doing yourself, or anyone else a service by dissing FC & then telling someone else not to "talk down" GT5P...

Hence why I said a total waste of "MY" money. But if it has given you alot of enjoyment then fair enough. I tried to like it but I just didnt. And it wasnt like I had one go on it then came on here and moaned. I played it loads. but like I said, couldnt get into it and it didnt apeal to me what so ever. So yes it was a waste of my money. And I think arfter trying to play it for as long as i did I have every right to an opinion on it. but someone playing it once round a friends and dissing it would be wrong. So come down off of your high horse and chill out. we all have opinions of games, and they all differ. If I had said I played the game once round my mates and I thought it was rubbish I would understand why you are so up your self on it. But I actualy did try and play it. and my opinion stands.

 

[Biggles]

we all have opinions of games

FC is £9.99 new in the UK at the moment. No one wants it. Including me.

Fair enough if you don't like the game. Saying "no one wants it" is another matter, especially when you then criticise someone else for "talking down" GT5P.

With regard to the OP: yes, Prologue desperately needs something new. That's why I play & enjoy FC (& F1CE) while waiting for that "something new".

 

[white2abbit]

Why not? I drove a 1993 180sx (SR20DET redtop) everyday for quite a while and do did my friends.

Coilovers, Blitz full racing exhaust with no cat, racing cams...to name a few

 

[dasgtr]

Don't even need new content, just some news about GT5's release is plenty in this game's agonizing gestation period.