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Proud owner of GT4 Japanese Version! *UPDATED* PIT CREWS, NOS, USED CAR, BACKFIRE
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It depends if they just started using the DFP or if they have gotten use to using the wheel. In the beggining you will be faster with a DS2 than you are with the DFP until you have gotten the proper feel and have accustomed yourself to using it properly.PjotrStroganov
The fact is that i'm not the only one that feels that way, 3 other people in the thread that I linked to agree with the belief that when they are using the DFP they are faster than they are with the DS2. I'm no slouch when it comes to using the DS2, I have verified world records to my name in GT3 with using the DS2 and I was on par laptime wise when using the DFP and DS2. I know when i'm giving it my all with the DS2 and that limit is fairly evident in the demo, when your on the verge of leaving the asphault surface on the exit of a turn in each turn going as fast as you can possibly go and you still cant get within 8 seconds of your DFP time then you know something is up. I'm not the only one who has said that, 3 different people agree with that. I'm fairly positive when everyone "US/NTSC, PAL and JAPAN/NTSC" have GT4 and the databases are in full swing I bet all of the top times will be done with a DFP.
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XPLOSV
The reason that I still use the DS2 is because I have to put the DFP back to the box after use everytime because my room is very small. It is very clumpsy indeed. Sometimes I'll just use the DS2 to go through some of the races.
I hadn't been driving (in real life) for quite a long while. With the DFP, it reminds me of my real driving experience (except no clutch and no H gear box), the steering feels so real. The brake is not tight enough and no feedback.
For ultimate experience, I want a clutch and brake with force feedback, and a H gear box.
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New Photomodes pictures : http://i-bbs.sijex.net/imageBoard.jsp?id=gt4&count=150
When i click on the picture for higher size, the picture does not work.
When i click on the picture for higher size, the picture does not work.
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yeh i had same problem
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- Tau88
. I have a couple of questions for the GT4 owners...
The first one might not be answerable at the moment:
We know that as you buy/win cars in GT Mode, they become "unlocked" in Arcade Mode (those that were previously locked, at any rate). But what about the cars you don't win or buy? As you progress through the game, with certain percentages complete, does it unlock other cars?
The reason I ask is that this game, as opposed to the other GT's, appears to have most, if not all, of the cars available in Arcade Mode. I'm hoping that later in the game, say around the 100% mark, that all cars will become available in Arcade, including those "worthless" used cars that no one ever buys. I'd like the option to drive any car I want in Arcade without having to buy it in GT first. I'm not sure if anyone's reached 100% yet, so this question might have to wait.
My second question is geared towards those using Pro Logic II audio on a 5.1 sound system:
How discreet and well-represented is the audio? Specifically, the sounds of the player car. Are the engine sounds where they're supposed to be? i.e. front-engine cars have the sound coming from the front speakers, while mid/rear-engined cars have it coming from the back? Is the backfire placed where it's supposed to go? i.e. back center for dual-exhaust cars, or right/left rear for single-exhaust, from only one side for the side-exhausts?
I know that PLII isn't quite as discrete as DD5.1, but it should still be possible to isolate specific sounds like that (those of you that have played properly-encoded PLII games know how immersive it can be). Just wondering if that's how they've got it... NFS:U2 kind of bugs me in that all the engine sounds come from the back speakers, even though all the cars are front-engined.
The first one might not be answerable at the moment:
We know that as you buy/win cars in GT Mode, they become "unlocked" in Arcade Mode (those that were previously locked, at any rate). But what about the cars you don't win or buy? As you progress through the game, with certain percentages complete, does it unlock other cars?
The reason I ask is that this game, as opposed to the other GT's, appears to have most, if not all, of the cars available in Arcade Mode. I'm hoping that later in the game, say around the 100% mark, that all cars will become available in Arcade, including those "worthless" used cars that no one ever buys. I'd like the option to drive any car I want in Arcade without having to buy it in GT first. I'm not sure if anyone's reached 100% yet, so this question might have to wait.
My second question is geared towards those using Pro Logic II audio on a 5.1 sound system:
How discreet and well-represented is the audio? Specifically, the sounds of the player car. Are the engine sounds where they're supposed to be? i.e. front-engine cars have the sound coming from the front speakers, while mid/rear-engined cars have it coming from the back? Is the backfire placed where it's supposed to go? i.e. back center for dual-exhaust cars, or right/left rear for single-exhaust, from only one side for the side-exhausts?
I know that PLII isn't quite as discrete as DD5.1, but it should still be possible to isolate specific sounds like that (those of you that have played properly-encoded PLII games know how immersive it can be). Just wondering if that's how they've got it... NFS:U2 kind of bugs me in that all the engine sounds come from the back speakers, even though all the cars are front-engined.
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how do you get around in http://i-bbs.sijex.net/imageBoard.jsp?id=gt4&count=150 ?
sorry I'm japanese language impared...
sorry I'm japanese language impared...
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Jedi2016
When you unlock cars in GT mode even if they were from the used car lot or cars that have to be unlocked they appear automatically in arcade mode in every color that is great because for example if you buy or win a white VW Polo you can choose all the Polo colors in arcade mode...
Concerning your sound question, i can only tell you that is great, its 100 % improved from any other Gt, you can clearly hear the cars from behind, you can hear your backfire or other cars backfire, you can also heare the turbos or superchargers doing their thing in your car or any other car in the competition, any engine sound even if its FR MR etc comes from the front speakers, i think exhaust too, it only changes when you have the replay in different camera angles...
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The DFP provides a very realistic feel if you want the realism of driving a '71 ford bronco on 35 by 15 inch tires with no power steering, and that has a noisy steering rack that goes "wirrr wirrrrrrrrrr wirrrrr"
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3rdgenracerX
I see your point, but isn't it possible that the you just can't cope that well with the DS2 in GT4? When I frequently played Live for Speed, I used a wheel. But there also where quite a few keyboard users. When looking at the hotlap times, many of the records times were driven by keyboard users. This was mainly because of the driving assist that they had. The devs of LiveforSpeed fixed this bij making the keyboard controls more difficult. I personaly think there is minimal difference when using the DFP and DS2. Okay there is more feedback when using the wheel, but it is also harder to react to unexpected circumstances. For instance, countersteering is much harder with the wheel because of the resistance of the gearing inside. In real life steering goes much smoother. The DS2 doesn't have this problem. This causes me to make much more constant laptimes than with a wheel, because I don't have to work as hard with the DS2 as with the wheel.
Actually, countersteer in GT isn't that hard. When you're in a situation where you have to countersteer, chances are the front wheels have lost their grip anyway. So the wheel actually turns quite freely.
The DFP does take some getting used to, but in the end I think it's well worth it. The extra control and finesse you get with the wheel is something the DS2 just can't touch.
And aside from smoother racing, I've also noticed an increase in the quality of replays. Since there's no more "tap-tap" steering corrections with the stick, the car's driving is noticably smoother.
The DFP does take some getting used to, but in the end I think it's well worth it. The extra control and finesse you get with the wheel is something the DS2 just can't touch.
And aside from smoother racing, I've also noticed an increase in the quality of replays. Since there's no more "tap-tap" steering corrections with the stick, the car's driving is noticably smoother.
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cudadude2
I can confirm that the SLR is available in color black as well.
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haha, thats great =D
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