- 10,620
- gtp_jimprower
I keep on getting a red "X" for this oddly-winged car.
Questionable modifications: pictures inside!
- Thread starter -Fred-
- 38,887 comments
- 2,906,099 views
Maybe this will work for you.
The "oddly-winged" statement makes me think about the SB Email "Dragon"
TROGDOR! That is my new name for this car. Trogdor
The "oddly-winged" statement makes me think about the SB Email "Dragon"
TROGDOR! That is my new name for this car. Trogdor
- 10,620
- gtp_jimprower
HOLY FREAKIN'......
He could at least have made the stays a bit more stable-looking...
He could at least have made the stays a bit more stable-looking...
- 24,344
- Midlantic Area
- GTP_Duke
Actually, the downforce seems to be applied just forward of the back axle, right where you'd want it on that car. It would be highly effective on such a light car, even at autocross speeds - in fact, the reason it's so large is to gain surface area for the relatively low velocity of the slipstream air. And 4 bolts take it off for the trip home...
Odd looking, yes, but questionable, no.
Odd looking, yes, but questionable, no.
- 5,987
I would question its efficiency vs. a normal setup, like I said.
Apparently it creates downforce already at 40mph, and the COG portion is negligeable, considering the wing is adding a whole 2% of mass to the car.
Apparently it creates downforce already at 40mph, and the COG portion is negligeable, considering the wing is adding a whole 2% of mass to the car.
- 10,620
- gtp_jimprower
A moment of silence for a once-proud Camaro.
- 3,014
- 3,433
That screen will really protect the turbine in that environment. Appearantly .25" rocks are all you need to worry about.
- 6,447
A moment of silence for a once-proud Camaro.
Aren't those Lambo wheels?
- 476
A moment of silence for a once-proud Camaro.
Some one please remove this car's owner from the planet...
- 476
- 24,344
- Midlantic Area
- GTP_Duke
Do you mean raising the COG due to the mass of the wing? Because the brackets are mounted forward of the axle, in fact right near the vertical axis of the COG, meaning a portion of the downforce is being applied to the front wheels as well as the back.
On a car as delicately balanced as an Elise, I'd say a mounting setup like this is mandatory in order to avoid generating large amounts of understeer at speed.
- 3,547
- Melbourne
- GTPr01 (GT); TheGTAFather (GTA)
That (F&F Eclipse) Camaro is bad, but I've seen a car that has taken that role that is even worse...
Just picture a Hyundai Excel in the F&F Eclipse theme...
And it's only a few km away from my house...
I'll try get some pics of it, but I'd rather not go near it.
Just picture a Hyundai Excel in the F&F Eclipse theme...
And it's only a few km away from my house...
I'll try get some pics of it, but I'd rather not go near it.
...🤬...
- 10,620
- gtp_jimprower
Me neither.
- 5,987
I was dealing with the COG issue of the wing's mass being high on the car, so I imagine the car should roll a bit more on the transitions, but at 40 lbs, I don't thing it would change things significantly.
The speeds which understeer becomes a large problem aren't really in auto-x territory. Plus, this car has 300+truboHP, so lower speed understeer can be eradicated with some basic driving techniques.
The owner finally showed up in the discussion and cleared things up. He used some sort of aerodynamic program to calculate the efficiency, and it was feasible, so the wing was used. It produces 100lbs of downforce at 45mph. They finished 3rd and 5th with the car, but lost significant time because of ICE-mode braking, which is a fake-fade complication the ABS system is tricked into having.
- 531
Crazy.
- 24,344
- Midlantic Area
- GTP_Duke
Pulling the fuse on the ABS system usually helps with that problem.
- 189
v-6
- 10,620
- gtp_jimprower
Wouldn't be drums on the front...I'll bet they're dust protectors....
still...EWW.
still...EWW.
- 5,987
When you're performing turn-in braking, and say you hit a little bump or something, it will throw off the ABS system and you will pretty much not have any brakes at all. You have to completely pull your foot off the brake and then apply brake again, which means you're clear out of the turn.
Some early C5 Corvettes had this too, but GM fixed it quick.
If you want ABS normally, pulling the fuse wouldn't help, would it. Some Elise guys are looking at changing around some of the sensors.
- 5,178
- Worcester, MA
- skip0110
Ahh, thanks 👍
Similar threads
