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Not the chop top.

It's a race car, the reason the roof was cut of was to save weight and allow for a most robust roll cage. I mean the headlights have even been removed, it's pretty clear the owner is out to build a pretty serious racer.
 
Hei
I'm all for function over form, but it loooooks bad.

Race cars aren't supposed to look pretty, they're supposed to be fast. My race car is bright green with mismatched everything and is pretty much down right hideous, but it's quick as long as the person driving knows what they're doing (ie not me).

I've always wondered how much weight that actually saves when you do it on something that was already a convertible.

Per this thread on S2000.com, the whole thing weighs about 95lbs.
 
Though the weight to add more structural rigidity you removed might offset that weight loss. Wouldn't just replacing the glass with lighter materials work as well? You can remove the top and all that, would still allow the rollcage.
 
Having a top and a roll cage weighs more than just a roll cage with the top removed. And that car doesn't have any glass in it at all, so there's nothing to replace.
 
I never said keeping the top. Just the keep the front bit and replace the glass. Done. and remove the top, its architecture and the side glass. done.
 
Hei
I never said keeping the top. Just the keep the front bit and replace the glass. Done. and remove the top, its architecture and the side glass. done.

Still not having something is significantly lighter than having something, which is obviously the point of the car.
 
See, by removing that little top brace you sacrifice structural rigidity. There is a point as too light. I know the rollcage makes a lot of it back up. Though I bet the sides are reinforced too. That adds a lot of the weight back.
 
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See, by removing that little top brace you sacrifice structural rigidity. There is a point as too light. I know the rollcage makes a lot of it back up. Though I bet the sides are reinforced too. That adds a lot of the weight back.

A soft top is just a heavy duty piece of canvas with some metal brackets and doesn't really provide much, if any, rigidity.

But it's in the XP class, which is for fairly serious autocrossers. Also the car is owned by Jason Collett, who's also an SCCA National Champion, so I'm going to guess he knows what he's doing. Reading up on the car, it's pretty awesome.
 
Like I said removing the soft top and everything. All I am trying to say is he should have kept the a pillar.
 
If you "box" in the rollcage at the top of the firewall with a transversal bar, where the dashboard would usually be, you don't need the a-pillar and windshield frame. They're there on the stock car to replicate that effect, no need to be redundant and have both of them. Not to mention bracing the car closer to its center of gravity instead of up high where there's little to no weight will improve its dynamics.

Plus, it's an auto-x car, which means it doesn't need to go 150 mph and rarely exceeds 100mph, which makes the sole purpose of a windshield (to shield wind!) slightly useless. You don't really need mirrors, either, since you're all alone on the track.

It's a bit like a modern barchetta, which were popular in the 50s and 60s. See Jaguar D-Type, for instance. Except that could go 170+mph, so a small windshield needed to be installed so the driver's head would not rip off due to wind buffering.
 
I have a fixed feelings about this .......
A Nissan NX with RX-7 FC front
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I hate to say it, but that's actually a marked improvement when compared to how it originally looked. Large panel gap and all.

It also reminds me that nothing on UK roads makes me more queasy than seeing a bone stock yellow 100NX. Ugh.
 
The original NX looked like a Geo Storm that someone beat with a particularly barb-wired stick, so that's actually quite a bit better looking.
 
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