R.I.P - Brayton Baker

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Suicide is a selfish, cowardly act i have no sympathy for that kid, only for his friends and family who are the ones suffering through this time.
 
I've experienced terrible fights between my parents and I'll admit, I sometimes felt that I would rather jump in front of the train rather than go home from school again because it went on many days in a row. Fights where things were thrown against the walls or each other and I didn't feel like do anything but cry myself (I was a second grader). So, I understand why he did it, but you must think of the good things in life and, more importantly, how others would feel about it.

Feeling sorry for his parents and friends because they have to live with the feeling that they caused it.
 
CaliRaized9
Suicide is a selfish, cowardly act i have no sympathy for that kid, only for his friends and family who are the ones suffering through this time.

People like you genuinely make me sick.
 
Guys, don't feed the trolls! It's one thing to voice your opinion, and a whole other to tell another person to kill him/herself. Maybe one day, they'll find out what it's like when you are driven to the point of actually considering suicide.

Once again, quite a shame it had to reach the point of him taking his own life. His parents will particularly be greivious, since they'll have to live with the feeling that they might've been the contributing cause to his death. I'm pretty sure there is a much deeper story into this, as I don't believe he would just kill himself like that. Just sad.

My advice to everyone is to voice your opinion with a bit more respect. Remember that we're dealing with someone's death here.
 
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Keep it civil. You've all already been told once before and someone is already on the receiving end of an infraction, so I'll echo what TM said earlier:

OK guys, enough.

It is OK to have a differing opinion, and to express it.

It is not OK to make threats or to make provoking statements.

If you disagree with another guy's opinion, take my strong advice and let it go.

With that said, it is indeed a tragedy. Wish he had run away or something instead, there isn't enough reason to ever commit suicide.
 
With that said, it is indeed a tragedy. Wish he had run away or something instead, there isn't enough reason to ever commit suicide.

But can't some people grieve and share their sorrow with others without people being such ignorant and stone-hearted jerks? Sure, it's okay to have opinions, but people should have enough common sense to know what's acceptable to do in say in such situations.
 
But can't some people grieve and share their sorrow with others without people being such ignorant and stone-hearted jerks? Sure, it's okay to have opinions, but people should have enough common sense to know what's acceptable to do in say in such situations.

I agree with that statement. I'm getting sick of people being so cold hearted and it's very aggravating to see these punks. I know if i continue i'm going to get in trouble. so i'm done
 
sorry i missed you xxkingjosh but thanks for sticking up for my grandson. You people really dont know how tragic and painful this is until it happens to your family. Thank you to all who are compasionate and send their condolances, you are truly feeling human beings
 
sorry i missed you xxkingjosh but thanks for sticking up for my grandson. You people really dont know how tragic and painful this is until it happens to your family. Thank you to all who are compasionate and send their condolances, you are truly feeling human beings

your welcome sir.
 
alien dave
sorry i missed you xxkingjosh but thanks for sticking up for my grandson. You people really dont know how tragic and painful this is until it happens to your family. Thank you to all who are compasionate and send their condolances, you are truly feeling human beings

I'm sorry you have to go through this.
 
You're the childish, selfish and lame one. Saying that about someone who just died? That's low, man. That's really low. I agree with the fact that sometimes suicide can be a bit selfish, because you're just leaving everyone behind, but still - no need to call him childish and lame. :/

Died? Sure, from his own hands, and for what? A meaningless fight with his parents.

I'm willing to stop the comments, but if Touring Mars and the rest of the mods don't mind, I'd like to finish with one last statement...

My Wednesday was spent standing in a funeral home, shaking hands and hugging family beside my Uncle's dead body. Being smoke free for 23 years did nothing for him when lung cancer decided to poke its head around for the second time in 4 years, finally taking his life after a 5 month battle. His funeral was on Thursday, he left a wife, 3 daughters and 5 grand children.

Tonight I spent the day in a funeral home, shaking hands and hugging family beside the dead body of my girlfriends aunt. What she thought was the flu around Christmas, which lead her to stay home for the holidays so she wouldn't infect everybody, turned out to be a variety of cancer that had spread through her body. She fought a brief battle, but in the end, it was decided that there was nothing left for anyone to do but wait till it finally ate the last bit of energy left in her body. Her funeral is tomorrow, she left a son and a daughter.

This all comes after losing my Grandfather to cancer back in October. After watching him fight and win against prostate cancer, only to be diagnosed with skin, gland and bone cancer a few years later. He was able to fight it for almost 2 years before it finally became to much for him.

Thats 3 family members in 8 months that I've watched fight for their lives, only to lose it in the end. 3 family members that I watched wither away to frail beings. 3 family members gone forever.

Now you come here telling us about someone who took their own life, in perfect health and at a young age, because of a fight with his parents and you expect everyone to feel sorry for him? No thanks. Like I said, I feel sorry for the parents for having to bury their own son, nothing more.
 
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Thats 3 family members in 8 months that I've watched fight for their lives, only to lose it in the end. 3 family members that I watched wither away to frail beings. 3 family members gone forever.

Now you come here telling us about someone who took their own life, in perfect health and at a young age, because of a fight with his parents and you expect everyone to feel sorry for him? No thanks. Like I said, I feel sorry for the parents for having to bury their own son, nothing more.

Not that I'm trying to play poor pitiful me, and I'm sorry for your losses, but in October, 2011 l lost a great grandpa, November 21, 2011, l lost my great grandma, then December 1, my grandpa went, then January, goes one of my best friends grandparents, then March rolls around and I lose my favorite grandpa Jack.

And once again, l can't believe the way you talk about Brayton. I'm officially done with this, meet my other grandpa Tom, who died about 7 yars ago, in hell. :-)
 
And once again, l can't believe the way you talk about Brayton. I'm officially done with this, meet my other grandpa Tom, who died about 7 yars ago, in hell. :-)

Cute.

You have a lot to learn, kid. Out of respect to the mods I'm going to bite my tongue for now and put a bullet in the head of this conversation and end it.
 
Suicide is often a premeditated move, though the actual act can be spurred by a trivial event even unconnected by what must have been the core problem for this child. He gave up on being understood. There could have been a better outcome.

My sympathies to all who bear this grief - parents, friends, and classmates - all have a loss to bear - and there is no denying the trauma they feel. This is a sympathy thread; let's keep it that way.

The debate on Suicide is taking place in another thread.
 
sorry i missed you xxkingjosh but thanks for sticking up for my grandson. You people really dont know how tragic and painful this is until it happens to your family. Thank you to all who are compasionate and send their condolances, you are truly feeling human beings

Seems legit, one post :rolleyes:
 
Suicide is a selfish, cowardly act i have no sympathy for that kid, only for his friends and family who are the ones suffering through this time.

It's not that simple. Depression is a very, very strong state of mind. there is literally no telling what was going on in his life, or what drove him over the edge. I'm not saying suicide is the answer, but you can't have a real opinion on suicide unless your life has been so bad that you have thought about doing it.

I wouldn't call it cowardly. He could have had undiagnosed mental problems, or maybe he was on some kind of antidepressants or something that altered his mind in a very bad way. Saying you have "no sympathy for that kid" is just plain stupid, when you know absolutley nothing about him. He could have been living in hell, with parents that tortured him and beat him everytime he turned around. You have no idea what kind of life he was living, or what was going on when he did it. People can look very happy to everyone, but in their own mind they are in a living hell, where they believe death is a better alternative to life. There's no way that one fight with his parents made him commit suicide. I'm not saying that is right, but in some peoples minds it's how it is.
 
I hate to say it, devastating as it is to friends and family, and as a parent myself...but one has the right to take their own life. Endangering others or causing obvious harm to others is where it gets "selfish".

Cowardly...maybe. Short-sighted...generally. Pointless...usually. There's people with genuine pain and suffering for whom there might be no logical choice. But without a doubt, awful.

Either way, it's always sad and tragic when these things happen, especially when there's so much life for any young adult to have lived in this world.
 
BUT! Despite all this, a dead person is a dead person. (this goes for anyone) if your closest relative or family member takes his or her own life wouldn't you be devastated? The way a person dies does not dictate what feelings people should have towards them. What really matters is dealing with the loss. Some of you can be so heartless that you don't even deserve to have an account on this site.
 
masterrawad
BUT! Despite all this, a dead person is a dead person. (this goes for anyone) if your closest relative or family member takes his or her own life wouldn't you be devastated? The way a person dies does not dictate what feelings people should have towards them. What really matters is dealing with the loss. Some of you can be so heartless that you don't even deserve to have an account on this site.

Agreed. It makes you wonder how these people go on in life happy with the way they talk about this kid.
 
The way a person dies does not dictate what feelings people should have towards them. .

I disagree. I have had a friend and a mother die from drug overdoses, and it changed the way greatly I felt about their deaths, compared to those who have died from natural causes. I felt betrayed by their deaths and still do, while I felt sorrow for the deaths of other members of my family, and friends. Don't get me wrong, I miss them and wish they were still alive, but it's not the same as though that I feel were cheated out of life.
 
Some of you can be so heartless that you don't even deserve to have an account on this site.

Except this isn't a forum for bleeding hearts and sympathy, it's a gaming forum.

Agreed. It makes you wonder how these people go on in life happy with the way they talk about this kid.

You must be sad all day every day then considering the number of people who die everyday. Or do you only care when it happens around you, making you a hypocrite for going off on people that this doesn't affect. There are a lot worse atrocities in the world that deserve sympathy over a kid who made a conscious decision to end his own life. It's sad for his family and close friends, that's about it.
 
Icarus25
You must be sad all day every day then considering the number of people who die everyday. Or do you only care when it happens around you, making you a hypocrite for going off on people that this doesn't affect. There are a lot worse atrocities in the world that deserve sympathy over a kid who made a conscious decision to end his own life. It's sad for his family and close friends, that's about it.

Except l wasn't talking about all of the other people in the world. One person in Africa is no more important than Brayton, vice versa. And just because there are worse things happening doesn't mean that he should just be ignored.
 
And you thought a gaming forum with a bunch of strangers was a great place to bring it up? You're incredibly naive to think everyone is going to share your level of sympathy for someone they don't know.
 
I wasn't expecting anyone to do anything. I was being respectful. Just like when a famous person dies everyone says "R.I.P this famous person".

I'm done arguing with you ignorant, cold-hearted, 🤬.
 
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