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Nice one MAY Another tough competitor falls at your hands Anyways, good luck in the next round bro...may the force be with you 👍
Hello, had an interesting race with PASM this evening, I went into the race with 0 practice laps, elected to go with the Lancer IX tuned (a reccomendation from PASM himself) We commenced the race and I was well off the pace, dropped down to 3.5-4 secs behind PASM pretty quickly, lap 3 or 4 I couldn't pass an unknown successfully (well I did, but then he would dive into the following corner like a maniac in an attempt to regain the position, shunting me in the sand on 2 occasions) so when i finally passed him I was 7 seconds behind, with only 4 laps to go, feeling as If the race was over, I still drove solidly, gaining just under half a tenth lap 7 or 8, but It wasn't enough and on the start of lap 8 or 9, decided to stop racing. I then voiced my concerns to PASM via the text chat facility, stating that I felt that my race was destroyed by the unknowner, and that If it were just us 2, the race result would be unclear, at the time of the run in with the unkowner, I was only 3.5 seconds off, I calculated that I could have made up 2.5-3 secs from then on to catch PASM's slip stream before the end If there was no incident with the unknowner, he kindly agreed with me and we agreed to race another one.
The next race was absolutely neck and neck for the first 8 laps, I pitted on lap 8 and had a solid out lap, I was around 3.5 secs off when PASM pitted at the end of lap 9, I leap frogged PASM in the pits and when he regoined the race, he was just outside slip stream distance, that same distance/margine remained for the last lap and I won by around 1/1.5 seconds, I very satisfying victory. I then texted PASM and proposed that we race another race, essentially returning the favour to PASM for allowing a race 2.
Race 3 I was very quick and hassling PASM like a bad smell, at the end of lap 3 I decided to TRY and pit lol, the attempt failed spectacularly as I went head first into the pit entry wall, It was an absolutely incredible mistake which left me 7.5 seconds off the pace when I rejoined the race, I persisted and the gap was slowly decreasing as PASM pitted lap 5 or 6, gap now was 3.5 seconds, a further 2 laps later the gap was 2.4 seconds, and on lap 8 i pushed to hard on the first corner and went into the sand, instantly, switched off the PS3, probably 0.8 second reaction time from the moment i realised I had entered the sand to the moment my finger made contact with the off button on the PS3 console, haha. So i guess the result is a victory to PASM, but I might have to talk to him again to see If he wants another race, because theoretically, we had 2 clean unaffected races, and after those 2 races, the result is 1-1, so it is an interesting descision, no one has really won the race in my opinion, maybe I went down 1.5-1. Anyways, what do you think?
+1If you ask me, you basically gave up when you turned off your PS3, so Bart won.
hey everyone, i cant get a hold of BTH_szoag.
What should i do?
Chris
If you ask me, you basically gave up when you turned off your PS3, so Bart won.
@Dan: if you ask me..
if i want you to be on the next round? yes, i want it
who deserve to pass? PASM
heres my onpinion:
this wasnt the best of 3 but if it was... you lost the 1st(unfair but wasnt against the rules) (1-0 for PASM) PASM was a great guy an re-run it for you. you won the 2nd.. you should have take it! (1-1) but you're a great guy and an re-run it.. 3rd race you gave up.. i see (2-1) for PASM
about beeing a fair guy re-running.. 1-1 👍 fair enough
I then voiced my concerns to PASM via the text chat facility, stating that I felt that my race was destroyed by the unknowner ... he kindly agreed with me and we agreed to race another one.
The next race ... I won by around 1/1.5 seconds, I very satisfying victory. I then texted PASM and proposed that we race another race, essentially returning the favour to PASM for allowing a race 2.
Race 3 ... I went head first into the pit entry wall, It was an absolutely incredible mistake which left me 7.5 seconds off the pace when I rejoined the race ... probably 0.8 second reaction time from the moment i realised I had entered the sand to the moment my finger made contact with the off button on the PS3 console, haha. So i guess the result is a victory to PASM, but I might have to talk to him again to see If he wants another race. Anyways, what do you think?
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It does put a bit pressure on PASM, even if you don't mean it to. You are one of the fastest & respected driver in OLR and therefore he might feel even more pressure.
Theres no pressure, What a silly statement to make, I dont care anymore to be honest, I was just trying to use logic, obviously theres no place for logic here in this thread
Jack...These events have made me come to the conclusion of PASM progressing to the next round.
If either of you have an issue with this, PM me asap.
Hello, had an interesting race with PASM this evening, I went into the race with 0 practice laps, elected to go with the Lancer IX tuned (a reccomendation from PASM himself) We commenced the race and I was well off the pace, dropped down to 3.5-4 secs behind PASM pretty quickly, lap 3 or 4 I couldn't pass an unknown successfully (well I did, but then he would dive into the following corner like a maniac in an attempt to regain the position, shunting me in the sand on 2 occasions) so when i finally passed him I was 7 seconds behind, with only 4 laps to go, feeling as If the race was over, I still drove solidly, gaining just under half a tenth lap 7 or 8, but It wasn't enough and on the start of lap 8 or 9, decided to stop racing. I then voiced my concerns to PASM via the text chat facility, stating that I felt that my race was destroyed by the unknowner, and that If it were just us 2, the race result would be unclear, at the time of the run in with the unkowner, I was only 3.5 seconds off, I calculated that I could have made up 2.5-3 secs from then on to catch PASM's slip stream before the end If there was no incident with the unknowner, he kindly agreed with me and we agreed to race another one.
The next race was absolutely neck and neck for the first 8 laps, I pitted on lap 8 and had a solid out lap, I was around 3.5 secs off when PASM pitted at the end of lap 9, I leap frogged PASM in the pits and when he regoined the race, he was just outside slip stream distance, that same distance/margine remained for the last lap and I won by around 1/1.5 seconds, I very satisfying victory. I then texted PASM and proposed that we race another race, essentially returning the favour to PASM for allowing a race 2.
Race 3 I was very quick and hassling PASM like a bad smell, at the end of lap 3 I decided to TRY and pit lol, the attempt failed spectacularly as I went head first into the pit entry wall, It was an absolutely incredible mistake which left me 7.5 seconds off the pace when I rejoined the race, I persisted and the gap was slowly decreasing as PASM pitted lap 5 or 6, gap now was 3.5 seconds, a further 2 laps later the gap was 2.4 seconds, and on lap 8 i pushed to hard on the first corner and went into the sand, instantly, switched off the PS3, probably 0.8 second reaction time from the moment i realised I had entered the sand to the moment my finger made contact with the off button on the PS3 console, haha. So i guess the result is a victory to PASM, but I might have to talk to him again to see If he wants another race, because theoretically, we had 2 clean unaffected races, and after those 2 races, the result is 1-1, so it is an interesting descision, no one has really won the race in my opinion, maybe I went down 1.5-1. Anyways, what do you think?
I enjoyed it too, very much.Yes i know pasm probably deserves the win, but i asked because maybe he would like to race it again, to try and beat me officially, no grey areas, i switched off the ps3 because i resigned and gave up the race, the point i was getting at is all intensive purposes, logically, the margine is 1-1 between me and PASM. the main reason why i want to race again is because i had a great time, i really enjoyed the races and would like to run it again, properly
And:But the rules clearly state
Any interference by non participants (drivers taking part in the public race) during the race will sometimes be unavoidable and should therefore be considered as an unavoidable part of the game.
I really don't understand why Bart should offer a re-run when he has already won (twice at that) a race that was run well within the rules stipulated by the race manager. I can understand that Dan would want to run a deciding and clean race but that should be done outside of the competition. It's my very humble opinion that you are putting a bit of unfair public pressure on PASM to offer a re run of a race without just cause.
As I were having a hard time deciding what to do, I decided to consult Jack for his opinion. I was already in the Live chatroom and so was Jack. I told him what was going on. Then he also referred to the rule that Cohiba mentions here. But I didn't want to win like this. Even though giving up and that rule said me to decide otherwise.You were lucky to get race 2 IMHO.
And:Theres no pressure, What a silly statement to make, I dont care anymore to be honest, I was just trying to use logic, obviously theres no place for logic here in this thread
Dan, you offcourse may apply logic to this. It is your right to be critical about a situation like this. But I do agree with Timppaq. In lap 8, you turned off the console. I raced on, and waited 10 minutes after the race to see if you would come online again and send me a pm, or even a pm here on GTP. But that didn't happen. I didn't have the time to wait longer because I had somewhere to be. Race 1 already started 1 hour later than planned.I think that you should have agreed what to do the same way that you did with the earlier races. Privately, and immediately. Not to make it public by coming here like neither of you did with the earlier races either.
It does put a bit pressure on PASM, even if you don't mean it to. You are one of the fastest & respected driver in OLR and therefore he might feel even more pressure.
If you ask me, you basically gave up when you turned off your PS3, so Bart won.
Congratulations PASM!
It doesent matter how fast you are in TT's, real racing will show the true Champions
And this is the Race of Champions...
Thanks Stijn Tizzla and Maz, for the support.Well done Bart, incredible victory and fully deserved 👍
In my opinion, the result is 2-1. A re-run is not justified. On top of that, I haven't got any time to race again before the deadline of round 4.Yes i agree the winner is Bart IF Bart doesnt want to re run it, If Pasm would like to re rrun it then great, otherwise< i bow out off the tournament, and leave with mixed feelings
PMSL!Theres no pressure, What a silly statement to make, I dont care anymore to be honest, I was just trying to use logic, obviously theres no place for logic here in this thread
PMSL!
If you ask me, I reckon you assumed you'd breeze this round. To not practise the event at this stage, shows signs that you didn't care in the first place - until you were beaten.
if 4-4=0 & 5-5=0, i deduce that 4=5 am i right?
Dan: If you thought you won the 2nd race fair and square then why didn't you just end it there!? ...
If I ever beat Holl01, no matter the circumstances, Im calling it a victory and telling everyone, lol, jk.