PCARS2 and GTS are coming too...not much time left between now and those dates.
They need to skew it a bit more then because I'm rubbish at it.It's my understanding that the physics of GT is deliberately skewed in order to make drifting easier than it would be in reality
I have to say that something the super honourable Mr Collins mentioned in this interview has rung alarm bells for me. It's my understanding that the physics of GT is deliberately skewed in order to make drifting easier than it would be in reality, and it does seem that some people are able drive their motors very quickly in a manner that would have their tyres screaming 'enough' in real life within one lap. From what I have heard, this isn't so with PCars, I believe that the cars respond much better to a smooth style than they do to an aggressive one. However, it would appear that PCars2 will follow the GT lead. It's a bit like when Coke was 'improved', by effectively turning it into Pepsi.
Anyway, we shall see...
Cheers, Zo.
The biggest problem I find driving the cars is that when the tyres lose their grip, it happens in an instant, and in most cases just fires you off into the nearest object, with no chance of recovery because I don't feel or hear, the grip begin to go. I find that unrealistic. Some cars are worse than others, but all I have driven so far basically behave the same, and can be improved with a lot of tweaking, and, as you say Zo, smooth driving. Improving the tyre modelling has been one of the main things to be corrected/improved in PCars2, and I have listened to a lot of talk, and watched a lot of videos, looking for that improvement, and I'm convinced they have improved it a lot. I don't reckon they have did a "Pepsi" either, as I have come across the phrase, "not wanting to dumb down the game", several times.
The attached video has some interesting comments - 1:26 to skip chatter. I'll put a second vid up showing Brands Hatch in the snow, just because it looks so amazing, including the handling looking realistic, that it put a smile on my face, and may do the same for anyone else who views it. The weather develops with every lap!
Zo, re your 200: you'd better go on without me. My PS3 is caput. The last few months I've been struggling with my PS3 so I decided to clean my laser in the hope that I would come back from Kyoto and actually be able to get into my settings/get on the track in the same time it takes everyone else. Long story short, I can't and in the process have created additional problems. The picture quality and colour have changed (graininess and washed out colours), the sound is almost non existent, intermittent at best, and I still have trouble getting into my settings. Not sure if it's the disc or the PS3 but either way I won't be buying a new PS3 or GT6 disc. Just when I was getting back into your track too Zo. I even ran a 3:27 in the GT-R Black yesterday. Nothing I can do now. I'm off to Kyoto tomorrow so I hope you all have a great race on the 12th. If anyone wants to adopt my strategy here it is: stay on the hard stuff and I don't mean the whisky Tom! Anyway, it's been an interesting 2 years on GT6 with ya all, racing all kinds, at all PPs etc, often at ungodly hours, and thanks to you all I've learned tons. But for now and GT6, I guess that's it for me; makes me think of all the good times: the very first race of the madness series at Silverstone running in the Bluebird Hardtop against Colin in the BTR and blue in the Quattro. How that championship finished - won in the last race by a single point after Colin forced a final lap in the Stratos. Unbelievable. Blue's Wagon Championship which was a lot more fun than I imagined it would be. The Volvo race around Madrid in the 80s Blast...the list goes on. And I really wanted to finish with one proper last race - the 200 - but it seems like it's not to be. So, sorry Zo and all, drive like you stole those supercars, and someone make a video please!
It's been good on GT6, hopefully PS4 will bring just as much shenanigans.
Best to all - joe
Most of the untuned cars in the game are pretty much undriveable because of that. It pretty much requires tuning to be any good, which is annoying, but luckily there's lots of good sources for tips and setups. I feel like the fact GT doesn't even have modifiable tire pressures has a lot to do with it also. I figured you guys with your wheels would get some sort of feedback when the car is about to lose grip though? I've mostly just gotten it down to slow down, don't touch the curbs on entry, and avoid the invisible bumps.
There's very little transference in driving styles between GT and PCARS because GT is about aggression because the cars and physics are so tossable (though GT Sport is less so since the grip feels more realistic) and PC is like you guys said, all about being smooth. I still haven't figured out tire wear though, since I'm great at managing them in GT and always burn them off no matter what in PC.
I've solely been doing PCARS for a while now and I've massively improved just by playing it regularly, I was always at the back of the group I race with when I started and was spinning out every few laps and now I'm fairly regularly on the podium. It is annoyingly unpredictable at first but once you learn to predict the unpredictability it's pretty fun, just not as fun as GT. Also the fact that cars get glued together anytime you make any sort of tiny contact makes close racing really nerve-wracking. Hopefully PCARS2 is more accessible like they promise.
So Zo what we'll do on saturday?
4 sounds the best for close racing and fun throughout. 2 would be fun but it would get lonely. whatever we decide on I will be there unless my ps3 stops working. that will not happen. I hope.That's an excellent question Jammy. As far as I can see, we have seven people who have committed to being there, with Suts being a possible eighth, if he can. We also have a pretty broad spectrum of pace.
The realistic choices we have, as far as I can see are:
1/ Forget it. (boooooo)
2/ Do the 37 laps. (Could be a long, lonely haul for some, Jammy wouldn't have any competition.)
3/ Do a seven lap race, then adjust power settings (assuming no sand-bagging) to tighten things up for a thirty lapper.
4/ Do a series of nine lap races, adjusting the power settings between each race for maximum tightness of field.
I really don't want to do 1, and if there was a realistic chance of people battling throughout, I'd love to go for 2, but I think that's unrealistic. 3 or 4 would work fine for me.
So fellas, it's your meeting as much as it is mine, which option do you prefer?
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Cheers, Zo.
That's an excellent question Jammy. As far as I can see, we have seven people who have committed to being there, with Suts being a possible eighth, if he can. We also have a pretty broad spectrum of pace.
The realistic choices we have, as far as I can see are:
1/ Forget it. (boooooo)
2/ Do the 37 laps. (Could be a long, lonely haul for some, Jammy wouldn't have any competition.)
3/ Do a seven lap race, then adjust power settings (assuming no sand-bagging) to tighten things up for a thirty lapper.
4/ Do a series of nine lap races, adjusting the power settings between each race for maximum tightness of field.
I really don't want to do 1, and if there was a realistic chance of people battling throughout, I'd love to go for 2, but I think that's unrealistic. 3 or 4 would work fine for me.
So fellas, it's your meeting as much as it is mine, which option do you prefer?
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Cheers, Zo.
I vote for 4.
can get there what car should I use Zo?
My prefer order would be (best first): 2, 3, 4(,1)
On saturday we'll do option 4?
After half a dozen laps, approximately 3.35 in the MP4 and the Ford GT (in the dry!). Although I'll probably get a little quicker I think it's safe to say I won't be troubling the leaders.
(I quite like the GT, although in typical PD fashion it doesn't sound like a large V8!)
Looking at our times I hope you can make it Suts.
I can't find a post showing what cars everyone is using? To vary the field I'll use whatever everyone else isn't, if you see what I mean.
Zo and all.
Sorry to say, I won't make the race tomorrow
Sorry to hear that Tom. I presume you've sought some help and advice from a doctor? Hope you get better soon. We'll miss you on track.Zo and all.
Sorry to say, I won't make the race tomorrow... bad gut problems for nearly a week. When it flared up I thought I would have recovered by now, which is why I am so late in letting you know. I'm fit for keeping up with emails, and not much more, at the moment, lol.
Whatever you decide, I hope you all enjoy your race-time.![]()