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Well, despite being probably the one with the most entries due to being the first to guess their many posted guns correctly, I probably didn't win. They're supposed to be PMing the winner on FB and my inbox is empty lol.
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Walmart .22LR update: 
Yesterday, I visit the Subway inside the Walmart near my work, I actually see bunch of cases of 100rd High Velocity .22LR by Winchester on the shelf!
All excited, I buy the max limit of one box(
). Today, I walk over there during lunch, and they had exactly one box left. 
I found an associate as fast as I could & grabbed that one box + another box of Perfecta .308(only $14.97!).
I can't believe how quickly those .22s are still flying off the shelves, even with the one box limit!
Yesterday, I visit the Subway inside the Walmart near my work, I actually see bunch of cases of 100rd High Velocity .22LR by Winchester on the shelf!
All excited, I buy the max limit of one box(
). Today, I walk over there during lunch, and they had exactly one box left. I found an associate as fast as I could & grabbed that one box + another box of Perfecta .308(only $14.97!). I can't believe how quickly those .22s are still flying off the shelves, even with the one box limit!
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Why 22WMR?
Thinking of buying a revolving carbine, those are just so neat.
Shoots either 45 round balls with black powder or with a cylinder swap shoot 44 special. Those were used in the civil war. Its pretty much a regular single action revolver with a butt stock and an 18 inch barrel.
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Don't do it. A friend bought one and he HATED it. You can't put your hand in front of the cylinder as you know, and putting your forehand behind or under the cylinder is not something that's easy to get the hang of to shoot accurately.Why 22WMR?
Thinking of buying a revolving carbine, those are just so neat.
Shoots either 45 round balls with black powder or with a cylinder swap shoot 44 special. Those were used in the civil war. Its pretty much a regular single action revolver with a butt stock and an 18 inch barrel.
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Can you add a Magpul foregrip maybe?
Very cool gun though. As for the .22WMR, I've never shot one, but couple of people I know who shoots them says they really like it. Personally, I'm perfectly happy with the .22LR for how common & practical they are.
Very cool gun though. As for the .22WMR, I've never shot one, but couple of people I know who shoots them says they really like it. Personally, I'm perfectly happy with the .22LR for how common & practical they are.
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I know that you have to shoot it differently than your average rifle, but this doesn't concern me. I've tried the stance before (with a small muzzle loader pistol that had a butt stock) and as long as the rifle is not super nose heavy or obscenely long its not really an issue. You just have to see it as long barreled handgun with a butt stock, not as a rifle.
Its just so pretty and neat.
I'm a huge fan of the .22WMR, it should have taken over and replace the .22lr. Jacketed bullet, at 100yds the power of the .22lr at the muzzle, still small, quiet and inexpensive. Shoots through 5'' of oak at 50yds with the Hornady 40 grain JSP
I'm just wondering about the lack of availability because the .22wmr is not very popular anywhere in the world. Except some small game hunters, but those usually don't buy bulk.
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@Michael88 - Sorry about that, I misunderstood the question.
It's been said that .22LR production has been 24/7. Perhaps the production of the .22WMR is being affected by the resources being prioritized for .22LR? Just a wild guess.
Few months ago, I used to see the .22WMR instead of the .22LR on store shelves sometimes, but I think @David is right. I don't see .22WMR anymore.
It's been said that .22LR production has been 24/7. Perhaps the production of the .22WMR is being affected by the resources being prioritized for .22LR? Just a wild guess.
Few months ago, I used to see the .22WMR instead of the .22LR on store shelves sometimes, but I think @David is right. I don't see .22WMR anymore.
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I don't know if this applies to the .22's, but when the ammo shortage hit after the Sandy Hook tragedy, it was explained that, once the existing stock/inventory in the country depleted, it was very hard for the ammunition manufacturers to pick up the pace and meet the demand. I think it was the NRA magazine story I read that implied that this stockpile of existing retail ammunition, they used to serve as a buffer when the manufacturers tried to keep up with the demand.
Of course, now all center-fire ammo seems to be back. Why just rimfire is slow to come back, I don't know. I still got plenty(shoot very little), but when these things disappear off the shelves for something like a year & a half, I will keep stocking up on them when I can. I don't think I'm hoarding, because I do play by the rules & respect the whatever purchase limit set by the stores(one
). My coworker who had way over 10,000 on hand, he'd been selling them on here(wonderful site). He isn't a hoarder either, but he stocked up on all sorts of ammo over the years. I've been learning from him. Edit: I found Federal .45ACP for $15 a box today! I jumped up & down, asked a clerk to get me four boxes, then he said "these aluminum case ones?" My reaction was exactly like this:
They still had the $15 box of brass .308, so I got those instead.
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My powder supplier just got tons (literally) of powder so I had to buy 6 cases, thats 3.5 kilograms of rifle powder or the equivalent of approx 1100 rounds. I also bought a couple of hundred bullets, lots of ammo reloading will commence!
I was happy, until I saw one guy buying 50 kilograms.
What a bastard, I was tempted to highwayman the hell out of him but my knee still hurt from my cycling accident so I had to let him go. 
Apropos powder, fun fact: whats the barrel life of an average non-magnum rifle? About 7 seconds!
Yes, it takes the average bullet about .002-.003 seconds to make it out of the barrel, and that a couple of thousands times is 5-7 seconds of continuous bullets passing through and powder burning the forcing cone.
Really good barrels last 3 seconds longer.👍
Its amazing how hard shooting is on barrels.
I was happy, until I saw one guy buying 50 kilograms.
What a bastard, I was tempted to highwayman the hell out of him but my knee still hurt from my cycling accident so I had to let him go. Apropos powder, fun fact: whats the barrel life of an average non-magnum rifle? About 7 seconds!
Yes, it takes the average bullet about .002-.003 seconds to make it out of the barrel, and that a couple of thousands times is 5-7 seconds of continuous bullets passing through and powder burning the forcing cone.
Really good barrels last 3 seconds longer.
👍Its amazing how hard shooting is on barrels.
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I thought it was going to be something like, most barrels are scrapped during production or something. You got me good.
I bought some 7.62x51 ammo yesterday. I've seen them at Walmart before, but because it was so cheap, I was going to research it first, then forgot all about it. I don't buy steel cased shells anymore, so I asked the clerk about it. He opened it up, it was actually brass for $9.97 or something like that(box of 20).
ZQ1 7.62x51 Made in Turkey
I bought four, so I can find out if it's any good. My rifle's chambered in .308, but it should be OK. In theory. 
I bought some 7.62x51 ammo yesterday. I've seen them at Walmart before, but because it was so cheap, I was going to research it first, then forgot all about it. I don't buy steel cased shells anymore, so I asked the clerk about it. He opened it up, it was actually brass for $9.97 or something like that(box of 20).
ZQ1 7.62x51 Made in Turkey
I bought four, so I can find out if it's any good. My rifle's chambered in .308, but it should be OK. In theory.
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7.62x51 in a .308 is no problem, you can shoot them safely. Some people say shooting 308 in a 7.62x51 is dangerous because of brass thickness of commercial ammo and blah blah. Truth is, they both have the same measurements and both have the same max pressure rating so I think thats nonsense. I also know people who shoot 308 in the 762's with no problem whatsoever and no signs of excessive pressure.
Tell us how the ammo shoots! Also, whats the bullet weight? 147 grains I guess?
Also keep the brass!
Tell us how the ammo shoots! Also, whats the bullet weight? 147 grains I guess?
Also keep the brass!
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The box doesn't mention the weight, but it says NATO specification, so I'm gonna guess that NATO has specified weight?
Good news is, I googled it & ended up on a forum where people are saying they shoot nice, and Walmart actually used to sell these for more. $9.97 may be clearance price, so I'm gonna check them out again tomorrow. I hope they still got them.
Good news is, I googled it & ended up on a forum where people are saying they shoot nice, and Walmart actually used to sell these for more. $9.97 may be clearance price, so I'm gonna check them out again tomorrow. I hope they still got them.
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Wanted to buy a good sling for one of my rifles, until I found out that a few straps and a bunch of clasps cost me 65 bucks (Magpul).
I then built my own sling out of 30mm backpack straps and aluminum clasps which I got from the adventurer store, for a total of 10 bucks. Its a ching sling, the supporting hand goes through the loop which really helps to pull the rifle into the shoulder for steady offhand shooting. Also the sling has a 100kg+ rating before it rips apart and everything is adjustable.
And my backpacks use the same diameter straps and clasps, which means that if my SHTF backpack should break down I can repair it with my rifle sling.
Demonstrated on an unused stock:
I then built my own sling out of 30mm backpack straps and aluminum clasps which I got from the adventurer store, for a total of 10 bucks. Its a ching sling, the supporting hand goes through the loop which really helps to pull the rifle into the shoulder for steady offhand shooting. Also the sling has a 100kg+ rating before it rips apart and everything is adjustable.
And my backpacks use the same diameter straps and clasps, which means that if my SHTF backpack should break down I can repair it with my rifle sling.
Demonstrated on an unused stock:
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Thank you.
Today I shot a perfect triangle at 110yds (totally on purpose, I swear
), I just measured the space between the shots with my electronic caliper, they're all equally far away from each other.
Also, I hand loaded 100 rounds of really high quality match ammo. Looks kinda neat.
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I really like the pic, also(almost as neat as the first one ). That look of glow is really cool. MTM case? I have few of those for my steel cased .308 shells. They are 50-round cases. Didn't know they had 100-round box. Lately, I've picked up couple of these as cheap supplement to real ammo-cans:
Plano Field Box They are small, they don't look at all durable, but they are something like $6.99 at Walmart & do have rubber gasket on the door. My 12-gauge shells alone takes up 3 (real)ammo cans, still can't fit all the 12-gauge shells in them, so I got these to help out little bit with the extra stock of ammo I've accumulated. I'll never take these out to the "field", but they'll be practical for ammo storage indoors. 👍
). That look of glow is really cool. MTM case? I have few of those for my steel cased .308 shells. They are 50-round cases. Didn't know they had 100-round box. Lately, I've picked up couple of these as cheap supplement to real ammo-cans:
Plano Field Box They are small, they don't look at all durable, but they are something like $6.99 at Walmart & do have rubber gasket on the door. My 12-gauge shells alone takes up 3 (real)ammo cans, still can't fit all the 12-gauge shells in them, so I got these to help out little bit with the extra stock of ammo I've accumulated. I'll never take these out to the "field", but they'll be practical for ammo storage indoors. 👍
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The rounds in my pic remind me of ''honeycomb energy crystals'' you could collect in an old AMIGA game, Turrican it was called. Same color. Great game. Childhood flashback!I really like the pic, also(almost as neat as the first one
Yeah, I bought a couple of 50 and 100rnd cases from MTM; those are pretty good for the money and I have two of them in my survival backpack in a wartertight bag. Also I put a piece of cardboard onto the inside of the lid so the rounds don't rattle around, possibly damaging the tip over time (HP).
I also have a couple of 30 and 50cal metal boxes for indoor storage but to my shame only two are actually filled up with ammo. Gun shops around here also have the plastic ones but I'm happy with my oldschool metal army surplus cans thankyouverymuch.
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Old school video games do rock.
I totally agree on the ammo cans. Plastic "ammo cans" to me are just ammo can shaped plastic boxes. 3 of the ammo cans I have like I said are filled with 12-gauge shells. Another with .45ACP, another with .308/7.62x51 & one more with the .22LR. I have one more box that I keep some survival supplies in. I was trying to put together a survival box for my car, but that plan was derailed. I may switch to a backpack/waterproof pack combo for the car & utilize that last ammo can for ammunition as well(have many boxes of 45/308/12G I need secure storage for). Sounds like a plan.
I totally agree on the ammo cans. Plastic "ammo cans" to me are just ammo can shaped plastic boxes. 3 of the ammo cans I have like I said are filled with 12-gauge shells. Another with .45ACP, another with .308/7.62x51 & one more with the .22LR. I have one more box that I keep some survival supplies in. I was trying to put together a survival box for my car, but that plan was derailed.
I may switch to a backpack/waterproof pack combo for the car & utilize that last ammo can for ammunition as well(have many boxes of 45/308/12G I need secure storage for). Sounds like a plan. - 23
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The problem with guns -- as is evidenced every day across the USA -- is that any average idiot can walk around town with a gun in his jacket. And if that idiot picks an argument with you, and you expose his idiocy, in normal circumstances (say the UK) at worst there would be a few angry comments exchanged and then you'd just walk away. Whereas in the US , these idiots, whose lack of intellect becomes apparent, often just resort to their gun, which you can't walk away from.
P.s. My main point being that while you get idiots in any country, in the USA the average idiot can carry a gun, whereas in Europe the average idiot there cannot and does not carry a gun.
And an idiot with a gun is a lethal danger to other people around him or her.
Whereas in the UK, an idiot is just an idiot, and not a potential murderer.
P.s. My main point being that while you get idiots in any country, in the USA the average idiot can carry a gun, whereas in Europe the average idiot there cannot and does not carry a gun.
And an idiot with a gun is a lethal danger to other people around him or her.
Whereas in the UK, an idiot is just an idiot, and not a potential murderer.
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I think you wanted to post this in the opinion thread?
Banning won't decrease crime, whats going to happen is those who want to shoot people usually do it with illegal weapons (gangs), other idiots will find different ways to kill like they always do, and there will be millions of responsible and mentally healthy people that have taken their guns away which they used for fun at the shooting range and for self protection.
The world isn't going to get beautiful with bans unless you find a way to ban idiots.
So is an idiot with a knife, a motorized vehicle, explosives, gasoline, sharp objects, blunt objects... Bottom line is, idiots are alway dangerous and you cant ban everything that might be dangerous in their hands. Strangely anti gun people never mention the number one killer - traffic. If you wanted to do that you'd have to ban cars first because there are many MANY more idiots killing people with their vehicles than with guns. Gun deaths are a joke compared to traffic deaths. Also more people get stabbed than shot. What about banning all knives? (England, I'm looking at you)
Banning won't decrease crime, whats going to happen is those who want to shoot people usually do it with illegal weapons (gangs), other idiots will find different ways to kill like they always do, and there will be millions of responsible and mentally healthy people that have taken their guns away which they used for fun at the shooting range and for self protection.
The world isn't going to get beautiful with bans unless you find a way to ban idiots.
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